"Success led to resentment"

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

"I get that fans are getting complacent with me but I'm not gonna change."

Is this the first time the WWE has actively blamed us, the fans, for the fact that the golden goose is not universally loved?

Obviously his mixed crowd reactions are touched upon on commentary and by Cena in his promos, but this feels somewhat transparent in it's criticism of those who cannot or will not cheer Cena.

[rnrk supports BLM]

Didn't Lawler say on commentary once that people boo Cena 'cause they can't lift weights like he can?

[Emmet Russell]

Oct 22, 2013 0:47:42 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

Didn't Lawler say on commentary once that people boo Cena 'cause they can't lift weights like he can?

Yes he did. At the Elimination Chamber I believe when Cena was facing Kane.

'I'd love to see these fans lift the weights Cena can'

I feel that part of the hatred for Cena is due to idiotic stuff like that. Cena seems like a very likable guy & i'd love to be a fan of his, but stupid comments completely ruin it.

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

Man I really hope the next top babyface in 10 years isn't booked so shitty that a part of the crowd hates him then the WWE, instead of trying to fix it and to get the approval of the entire crowd for the most part, will call the people that boo him weird bizzaro land losers that can't lift weights like him or some such nonsense.

Cause God forbid WWE screws something up and people can't just not like something about a guy's booking and character without being labeled a weirdo for it.

[SEAN CARLESS]

Stating that completely negates the fact that there are glaring issues with his booking and presentation. It's insulting to those who have legitimate criticisms, and paints them as "haters" for hate sake, rather than people who just can't stand white-washed company propaganda and phony personas.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Right now it seems like instead of trying to fix the problems with Cena, they just encourage the Cena hate so that they can have other wrestlers play off of it to get reactions. Like if they want to push a guy, they'll just have him go "rabble rabble Cena's a phony" for a cheap pop. Nearly all of Cena's big time programs and even a few filler feuds (Ziggler, Miz in 2009) are based on this formula.

[tenshi]

Let me get this straight: So the reason WWE is giving for John Cena being a polarizing figure in recent years, to put it mildly, is because his "haters" are jealous of his success? Because that's what I think they tried to say with the video they showed on Raw.

[Urfarkendarf]

That video was all sorts wrong and I felt personally insulted by it. Cena is polarizing because most of his detractors can see right through what we're given with him. Everything feels fake and contrived with him. What's sad about this is that I really would like to like the guy, but I've never been able to get him except at his very beginning when it was clear that he was going to be someone worth paying attention to. He's by all indications a very good person and he clearly cares a lot about the business and knows his history. The cookie cutter Superman shit and rah-rah bull only goes so far. That package tonight said to me "You're either on this train or you're not a real fan." It was pandering at its absolute worst.

I wonder if Kurt broke any furniture at home tonight or hate-banged his wife after they played the "ruthless aggression clip".

[Heartbreaker]

Screw it, I can't handle it anymore. WWE, we have our own opinions so stop acting so annoyed that the fans aren't sheep who will cheer for who you want cheered and boo who you want booed. It seems that in the last five years or more, WWE has gone insane with this type of stuff.

[frogsplash45]

Success leads to resentment.
Resentment leads to hate.
Hate... leads to suffering.

[Hit Girl]

Staleness has led to resentment.

[nate5054]

Oct 22, 2013 0:46:33 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

"I get that fans are getting complacent with me but I'm not gonna change."

It's why he's hated. He's damn damn damn damn stale. Even Hogan got stale after an eternity. Cena desperately needs a change.

[mrjl]

Oct 22, 2013 2:21:48 GMT -5 Urfarkendarf said:

That video was all sorts wrong and I felt personally insulted by it. Cena is polarizing because most of his detractors can see right through what we're given with him. Everything feels fake and contrived with him. What's sad about this is that I really would like to like the guy, but I've never been able to get him except at his very beginning when it was clear that he was going to be someone worth paying attention to. He's by all indications a very good person and he clearly cares a lot about the business and knows his history. The cookie cutter Superman shit and rah-rah bull only goes so far. That package tonight said to me "You're either on this train or you're not a real fan." It was pandering at its absolute worst.

I wonder if Kurt broke any furniture at home tonight or hate-banged his wife after they played the "ruthless aggression clip".

what feels fake and contrived with him? You say he seems like a genuinely good person and he portrays a genuinely good person. And there's the Superman stuff, but he really does come back from injury in half the expect time and he really does all those feats of strength. And as for the rah-rah stuff, you also believe he cares a lot about the business and knows it's history.

[Rave]

Didn't Michael Cole once say that people who hated Cena weren't "true fans" of WWE?

It's like there's a massive schism between Cena the person and Cena the character. They show all these videos of his charity work and stuff that indicate that he's a genuinely good person, then he gets on TV and acts/is booked like he's the most annoying douche on the planet.

[Citizen Snips Has Left]

Oct 22, 2013 4:43:22 GMT -5 nate5054 said:

Oct 22, 2013 0:46:33 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

"I get that fans are getting complacent with me but I'm not gonna change."

It's why he's hated. He's damn damn damn damn stale. Even Hogan got stale after an eternity. Cena desperately needs a change.

And by John Cena's logic, Hogan turning into Hollywood Hogan wasn't one of the biggest moments in wrestling history...it was the Hulkster not being true to himself, which is more important than what the fans actually might want to see. Never Give Up.

[blackmegaman]

Oct 22, 2013 1:11:03 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Right now it seems like instead of trying to fix the problems with Cena, they just encourage the Cena hate so that they can have other wrestlers play off of it to get reactions. Like if they want to push a guy, they'll just have him go "rabble rabble Cena's a phony" for a cheap pop. Nearly all of Cena's big time programs and even a few filler feuds (Ziggler, Miz in 2009) are based on this formula.

Bingo.

[A Platypus Rave]

Oct 22, 2013 5:14:57 GMT -5 Rave said:

Didn't Michael Cole once say that people who hated Cena weren't "true fans" of WWE?.

It was people cheering for punk weren't really fans of the WWE.

But That was in reference to CM Punk threatening to damage the company by leaving with the title. So he at least had a point.

[Deleted]

If you are going to use the word complacent, use it properly. One definition for complacent is, according to Merriam-Webster, "marked by self-satisfaction especially when accompanied by unawareness of actual dangers or deficiencies". Now that's irony.

[Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill]

Said it before and I'll say it again.
The most heel thing Cena can do is not turn heel because stuff like this fuels the hate, by this point they WANT the "we hate Cena" crowd to keep booing him because well, it seems like that's the reason they're buying tickets in the first place.

[A Platypus Rave]

Oct 22, 2013 9:59:16 GMT -5 Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill said:

Said it before and I'll say it again.
The most heel thing Cena can do is not turn heel because stuff like this fuels the hate, by this point they WANT the "we hate Cena" crowd to keep booing him because well, it seems like that's the reason they're buying tickets in the first place.

Yep.