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Post by kingbookermark on Mar 18, 2014 17:17:16 GMT -5
I, Calvin, declare a permanent victory for the "Wait & See" movement on the FAN forums in the case of Daniel Bryan vs. The Authority storyline which will culminate in one of the biggest pay offs in WWE history at Wrestlemania XXX.
If you are a "Wait & See" follower like I am, and feel truly justified in this victory simply say "Yes!"
YES! YES! YES!
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Post by Lila on Mar 18, 2014 17:21:55 GMT -5
Not until the day of April 6 has passed.
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Post by Starshine on Mar 18, 2014 17:22:08 GMT -5
Sure. But man was it a crappy road getting there. A good ending doesn't forgive how bad the previous 5 or so months have been.
If you're happy with that, cool. But I don't consider this a real victory in any sense of the word. It's pretty clear it was done out of necessity rather than any real long term planning.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 18, 2014 17:22:50 GMT -5
Yeah, this is a little premature... but it certainly looks like it ... Let's wait and see  |
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Post by Spearmint* on Mar 18, 2014 17:22:58 GMT -5
I'll agree whole-heartedly that this is now the hot angle heading into Wrestlemania. But it wasn't pleasant getting here.
And is is a shame and great mystery that we'll likely never know if it all would have turned out like this had CM Punk not left, had the fans at Royal Rumble not boo'd Batista and had (excuse the WWE term here) "The Yes Movement" not pushed so hard for Daniel Bryan.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 18, 2014 17:23:40 GMT -5
I'm going to laugh if Batista wins the title at Mania.
And then cry.
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Post by g1megatronfan on Mar 18, 2014 17:27:41 GMT -5
No! No! No!
I'll believe this grand payoff come true the night after 30. It's still not worth it to me. It doesn't outweigh the Triple H stupidity. No payoff is great enough to undo the boredom he has inflicted upon me.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 18, 2014 17:29:09 GMT -5
Thank you, Based Punk.
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Post by Brickstone Kid on Mar 18, 2014 17:48:59 GMT -5
More like "Wait and See if our bitching actually gets them to change their idiotic booking." Which it did, apparently.
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Post by Woo on Mar 18, 2014 17:50:29 GMT -5
More like "Wait and See if our bitching actually gets them to change their idiotic booking." Which it did, apparently. Yes. Had we waited and seen we'd be getting Batista vs Orton. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 17:53:42 GMT -5
Sure. But man was it a crappy road getting there. A good ending doesn't forgive how bad the previous 5 or so months have been. If you're happy with that, cool. But I don't consider this a real victory in any sense of the word. It's pretty clear it was done out of necessity rather than any real long term planning. Pretty much. WWE stumbled ass backwards into something entertaining. The "see" part was ok, but everything that happened during the "wait&" was just annoying and repetitive. There's a nice way to things, that's all I'm saying. You can do a long, elaborate storyline that builds a star up, but you don't have to be so crass and ineloquent about it. On top of that, its not like everything since pre-summerslam really HELPED this story along. They had one note. ONE NOTE (and it was a great note), that they hit over and over and over again with almost no variation upon. When Bryan started feuding with the Wyatts it felt like someone finally realized they can hit a different key on the piano! That lasted all of 3 weeks before they went right back to striking that same note again and again. If by "wait and see" worked, people mean they wrote such an annoyingly monotonous story that people are now begging for it to be over in hopes of a different chord being struck, then yes, it worked. But like I said, there's a nice way to do things and this wasn't it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 17:54:41 GMT -5
The alternate timeline where Punk is still around would be a very different place that threads like this don't exist. |
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Mar 18, 2014 17:58:33 GMT -5
More like "Wait and See if our bitching actually gets them to change their idiotic booking." Which it did, apparently. Yeah this. I'd say it's actually no victory for the wait and see movement at all. If we'd all just accepted the wait and see approach I think we'd be getting face Batista vs. heel Orton for the title at 'Mania while Bryan potentially lost at 'Mania to HHH in a feud he was just shoehorned into as a bit part player after Punk left. It was the fact that most people decided not to wait and see and instead voice their concerns as loudly as possible that caused WWE to change their booking and now we'll see a Bryan/HHH feud with Bryan as a main focus, see him win that match at 'Mania and probably win the title. It's actually a victory for the "This sucks. Lets tell them how much it sucks and hopefully they'll change their mind" brigade. Granted that's a bit of a mouthful but it's the brigade that won the war. |
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Post by The Tank on Mar 18, 2014 17:59:53 GMT -5
Well, you can feel however you wish, but this isn't a victory for anything. This is a clear and present example of damage control at its finest getting us to our originally desired outcome.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 18, 2014 18:00:03 GMT -5
bullshit,this was no wait.
That was the people letting know that their decision was BULLSHIT
If people had waited,we would have some crap wrestlemania card for sure.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Mar 18, 2014 18:02:56 GMT -5
I think that I better term could be "Wait and See, and if things don't go your way, show your disaprovement with cheers and boos"
At least I think that this is awesome unlike "Done, I will not watch more raw"
I don't know if the WWE really tested Bryan with all the things that happened this months, but at least yesterday HHH did something amazing and that never happens, he PRAISED his opponent for once, saying that no matter all the road blocks that the machine put on him he still went on top. I know that we had criticize lots of times when we see other wrestlers being depushed/buried in the middle of a push for no reason, losing steam in the process. But with Bryan that didn't happen, since I think that his ethics are so awesome that I truly mark for him when I see him winning. From the beggining when he didn't wanted to sign with the WWE because he felt that needed more polish, to going into FCW when 90% of the newcomers would have prefered to be alrady on the main show, to tie gate, 18 seconds, and lots of things after that, he still showed the WWE that he will still be himself.
If at WM 30 Bryan wins the title, will be an amazing moment, that could justify your fandom for wrestling. Still don't know what could happen, and for once I feel that is great, since otherwise, we will bitch about how everything is predictable
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 18:04:14 GMT -5
Sure. But man was it a crappy road getting there. A good ending doesn't forgive how bad the previous 5 or so months have been. If you're happy with that, cool. But I don't consider this a real victory in any sense of the word. It's pretty clear it was done out of necessity rather than any real long term planning. Pretty much. WWE stumbled ass backwards into something entertaining. The "see" part was ok, but everything that happened during the "wait&" was just annoying and repetitive. There's a nice way to things, that's all I'm saying. You can do a long, elaborate storyline that builds a star up, but you don't have to be so crass and ineloquent about it. On top of that, its not like everything since pre-summerslam really HELPED this story along. They had one note. ONE NOTE (and it was a great note), that they hit over and over and over again with almost no variation upon. When Bryan started feuding with the Wyatts it felt like someone finally realized they can hit a different key on the piano! That lasted all of 3 weeks before they went right back to striking that same note again and again. If by "wait and see" worked, people mean they wrote such an annoyingly monotonous story that people are now begging for it to be over in hopes of a different chord being struck, then yes, it worked. But like I said, there's a nice way to do things and this wasn't it. Yeah I don't see it as an example of wait and see as much as it established that, if you want something to happen you have to relentlessly badger the company at live shows incessantly to get it. We'll never know for sure that if fans just rolled with the punches, where Daniel Bryan would be sitting but I have a really hard time believing WWE didn't have their fingers crossed that Batista's return would be such a Godsend we wouldn't give a shit what happened to Bryan. I feel I was extremely patient with the Bryan angle, but they've been really sloppy about it, if Bryan was still in their long term plans there are ways to tell this stor where even if Bryan's diverting to feuds with Bray Wyatt, still establish that his prime objective is the world title, there are ways to tell the viewers not to worry, and that there are still big things ahead. I'm certain Bryan was gonna find his way sooner or later but he needs to win the title at Wrestlemania this year or it's too late. If fans didn't cause the ruckus they did I'm fairly positive he wouldn't have made it. |
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Mar 18, 2014 18:10:11 GMT -5
It's more a victory for "Wait & see if they pull their head out of their ass"
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Mar 18, 2014 18:10:16 GMT -5
you're assuming of course HHH doesn't pull a Wrestlemania 19, or 25 or any of the 100's of times "the Game" went over needlessly.
And even if DB wins the belt it doesn't excuse the "tantric booking" of the last eight months. the Wyatt family turn thing, involving the Big Show, three straight pay per views that ended the same way. it was just awful writing from what is suppose to be the premiere wrestling company in the world.
i expected a hell of a lot better story telling.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Mar 18, 2014 18:11:13 GMT -5
If anything, this shows how f***ing low the standards for wrestling plots are. I know this thread is not entirely serious, so please forgive me for this rant. Let's plug this logic into any other form of fiction. Imagine if a TV show had extremely poor four seasons only to have a decent finale. Would we say it was a great series or that the finale redeemed the series? Of course not. Any reasonable person would say "That's a decent finale. The show is still shitty due to torturing me week in and week out with bad writing."
A good piece of fiction shouldn't be like a f***ing test of endurance to see if you are worthy of seeing the ending, and narrative tension should not revolve around "Will the writers actually bother wrapping this plot around or not?"
Yeah, maybe this storyline will have a decent ending. It will still be a bad storyline because of how badly paced it was.
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