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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Nov 10, 2014 18:16:02 GMT -5
Any Who is good Who to me. Well, Unless it's Delta and the Bannermen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 18:23:19 GMT -5
Because she's a total fangirl who copies the Doctors' styles and has likely committed every file they have about him to memory, and considering how many of them will be about various incarnations of the Master, she put it together. The Doctor even admires her smarts and basically offers to make her the next companion. She also might be a Zygon. Seriously, am I the only one who remembers that they never resolved that? You are not. And I would assume many Whovians have taken that same thinking and cling to hopes of Osgood returning more than they rely on air to breathe. She was a neat side character who dies, honestly, a weird reactionless death. So yeah, let's hope the Zygon version (who also needed an inhaler? I forget that bit...) was killed.
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Post by Jiren on Nov 10, 2014 19:03:12 GMT -5
I hope Osgood remains dead, what an annoying character.
The annoying thing about Dark Water/Death In Heaven is with a bit of tweaking a removal of all the crap (aka most of it) then there would have been a pretty good 2 part Cybermen story.
Instead we got 2 shit episodes, In fact aside from - Robot of Sherwood - Time Heist - Mummy On The Orient Express - Flat Line
Season 8 was an atrocity, Only McCoy's first series and NuWho Series 7 was worse IMO
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Nov 10, 2014 19:05:04 GMT -5
i dont think Missy actually killed any of those people, how could she make them cybermen is she disintegrated them,
i think they were transported somewhere
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Nov 11, 2014 2:12:35 GMT -5
Disappointed that Capaldi and Chris Addison did not share a scene.
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Post by Bad Moon on Nov 11, 2014 4:16:28 GMT -5
I hope Osgood remains dead, what an annoying character. The annoying thing about Dark Water/Death In Heaven is with a bit of tweaking a removal of all the crap (aka most of it) then there would have been a pretty good 2 part Cybermen story. Instead we got 2 shit episodes, In fact aside from - Robot of Sherwood - Time Heist - Mummy On The Orient Express - Flat Line Season 8 was an atrocity, Only McCoy's first series and NuWho Series 7 was worse IMO No love for Listen or Into the Dalek? Personally I thought those were the highlights of the series.
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Post by Bad Moon on Nov 11, 2014 6:53:41 GMT -5
From a different forum but I feel it's relevant. Spoilered for language. {Spoiler}
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 11, 2014 7:37:09 GMT -5
From a different forum but I feel it's relevant. Spoilered for language. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Moffat possesses the unenviable task of navigating something with 50+ years of fandom, whilst also taking it new directions and then, on top of that, has to ensure it retains elements accommodating to new viewers. You're going to piss off a horde of folk regardless. On the notions of script-editor/showrunners/exec producers, Bidmead gets off so light in the popular canon. He reduced the show to the driest, sorriest bit of science-fact wozzle and authored a convoluted departure for the 4th Doctor that'd make Moffat's greatest errors likewise seem kiddy-pool in comparison.
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Post by Jiren on Nov 11, 2014 9:26:01 GMT -5
From a different forum but I feel it's relevant. Spoilered for language. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Moffat possesses the unenviable task of navigating something with 50+ years of fandom, whilst also taking it new directions and then, on top of that, has to ensure it retains elements accommodating to new viewers. You're going to piss off a horde of folk regardless. On the notions of script-editor/showrunners/exec producers, Bidmead gets off so light in the popular canon. He reduced the show to the driest, sorriest bit of science-fact wozzle and authored a convoluted departure for the 4th Doctor that'd make Moffat's greatest errors likewise seem kiddy-pool in comparison. E Space & Return Of The Master trilogies are better than anything from the Moffatt era Not to say I despise the Moffatt era as I liked Series 5 & 6 (Good not brilliant) But 7 & 8 I found awful.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 11, 2014 11:13:15 GMT -5
I would disagree, they were structurally sound, but lacking in any sense of warmth, wit or consistent character; probably hindered twicefold coming off the general era of Hinchcliffe then Adams.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 11, 2014 12:22:17 GMT -5
This series sucked.
I found it a real chore to get through. There were the occasional good episode (loved Time Heist and Mummy) but even Time Heist felt rushed and should have been a 2 parter.
I really hope Clara is gone for good. I can not stand her. She is so utterly boring and annoying. In fact, I blame her for this series sucking since I hated every second she was on screen. And the less said about Danny Pink the better. What a boring character not helped by the charisma vacuum of an actor.
Can we have Rory back please?
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Nov 11, 2014 13:43:44 GMT -5
I hope Osgood remains dead, what an annoying character. The annoying thing about Dark Water/Death In Heaven is with a bit of tweaking a removal of all the crap (aka most of it) then there would have been a pretty good 2 part Cybermen story. Instead we got 2 shit episodes, In fact aside from - Robot of Sherwood - Time Heist - Mummy On The Orient Express - Flat Line Season 8 was an atrocity, Only McCoy's first series and NuWho Series 7 was worse IMO No love for Listen or Into the Dalek? Personally I thought those were the highlights of the series. Listen was too preoccupied with trying so hard to be Blink that it forgot to have anything of substance.
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Post by Bad Moon on Nov 11, 2014 14:39:40 GMT -5
Huh? How is Listen anything like Blink apart from being scary? Blink: Very little to do with the Doctor, shown entirely from point of view of the non-companion human characters. Listen: All about the Doctor and his personal search for an answer. Blink: Has a clearly identified monster with stated goals and abilities. Listen: It's ambiguous whether there even is a monster at all. Blink: The plot is driven by passive one-way time travel induced by the monsters. Listen: The plot is driven by the characters, all the time travelling is voluntary action by them to advance the story and the monsters (if there even are any) have nothing to do with it. Blink: At the end the main characters have learned nothing, haven't changed and we have learned nothing new about the characters. Listen: We discover something new about the Doctor, Clara's relationship with him fundamentally changes and start a direction her character development that continues all the way up the series finale.
So all the two really do have in common is that they both feature the Doctor, time-travel and a (percieved) alien threat. So if you think that's too samey, welcome to Doctor Who, you're gonna hate most of it.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Nov 11, 2014 14:49:21 GMT -5
Huh? How is Listen anything like Blink apart from being scary? Not on terms of content but in terms of impact. If I said that it tried so hard to be memorable that it ended up being utterly forgetable would that make more sense?
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Nov 14, 2014 18:23:08 GMT -5
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Post by Bad Moon on Nov 14, 2014 19:27:08 GMT -5
And in the ultimate twist, it turns out that while the Master regenerated into a woman the Rani regenerated into Santa Claus.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 15, 2014 5:48:42 GMT -5
FFS I thought we'd seen the last of Clara "I have no personality" bleedin' Oswald. She's my least favourite character in Doctor Who history and has no redeeming features. Just go away Clara.
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Post by Jiren on Nov 15, 2014 6:09:18 GMT -5
FFS I thought we'd seen the last of Clara "I have no personality" bleedin' Oswald. She's my least favourite character in Doctor Who history and has no redeeming features. Just go away Clara. yep I find her worse than Adric & Mel (Mel was great in the Big Finish audios)
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 15, 2014 6:55:04 GMT -5
yep I find her worse than Adric & Mel (Mel was great in the Big Finish audios) I really hope they shake things up for the next companion rather than it being "good-looking, 21st century, London female in her mid-20s with a spunky, bubbly, flirty and energetic personality who flirts with the Doctor every chance she gets" and has little personality beyond that. I want him to travel with a guy (as long as it's not Danny Pink). Or an alien. Or a robot. Strax would be my ideal choice for the next full-time companion.
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Post by Jiren on Nov 15, 2014 7:25:37 GMT -5
yep I find her worse than Adric & Mel (Mel was great in the Big Finish audios) I really hope they shake things up for the next companion rather than it being "good-looking, 21st century, London female in her mid-20s with a spunky, bubbly, flirty and energetic personality who flirts with the Doctor every chance she gets" and has little personality beyond that. I want him to travel with a guy (as long as it's not Danny Pink). Or an alien. Or a robot. Strax would be my ideal choice for the next full-time companion. I think the two from "Time heist" would be cool companions.......without Moffatt ruining things of course
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