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Post by Adam Black on Jul 22, 2014 8:53:46 GMT -5
Okay. I mean, I know wrestling is physically demanding, but it sounds like CM Punk is in awful physical condition after wrestling and I wonder if that might just partially be specific to him or most wrestlers have it that bad sooner or later. Everyone gets permanent body damage from wrestling, and I've never heard anyone say otherwise. It's not always major stuff like Edge, but there's always something. Look at Jericho. Never (eeeeeeeeeeeever) missed any time in WWE due to injury/surgery, but look at his gear next time you see him wrestle. He wears giant braces on both knees, and has since the back half of his SRS run. That's result of permanent body damage which just comes with the territory. You also have guys like Christiian who only became injury prone later in his career due to wear and tear.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 22, 2014 9:54:01 GMT -5
You know, CM Punk's quitting of WWE seems to be justified in the fact that his health is awful, including injuries, constant pain, even memory loss, which begs the question: what is it like for people currently in WWE right now? Most of them haven't been wrestling for as long as he was, and even when he came into WWE, he had bad knees. Not to mention a formerly cracked skull.
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Post by The Tee Why on Jul 22, 2014 10:17:34 GMT -5
just as he gets his iconic hair look back he leaves We had to suffer through the crappy wolverine look
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Post by Texas Tornado on Jul 22, 2014 10:25:39 GMT -5
On that same note, I feel that future wrestlers should take note of how Punk ended his relationship with WWE as the way NOT to do it. It is always better to let a cooler head prevail and to not burn the bridge behind you-throwing a temper tantrum and storming out doesn't do you or anyone else any good. Even when your grievances are 100% legit, it is still best to be mature and level headed about it. Nuff said. What are you talking about? Punk has not trashed WWE once since he's left, WWE has openly promoted MULTIPLE specials revolving around CM Punk since he's left on the Network, and the only times they've mentioned him are the ones where their biggest heels saw a good opportunity for heat. It's pretty clear that there's no bridge burned and that the terms were pretty amicable when he left. We've seen the signs of a guy having a burned bridge with the company and none of those signs have showed up in the Punk situation. With every day that goes by that "temper tantrum" story sounds more and more like clickbait BS someone made up (cause they didn't know what actually happened).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 12:42:21 GMT -5
This thread really doesn't need many more people going "I can't believe you people are taking this seriously!"
Pretty much everyone gets that he's joking. It just might reflect some real feelings too.
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Post by The Tee Why on Jul 22, 2014 12:49:06 GMT -5
Once again the IWC acts like someone who just got finished awkwardly noticing their ex in the mall or something
"yeah...well she looks good...looks happy"
christ he's a former pro wrestler not your highschool sweet heart...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 12:51:52 GMT -5
Once again the IWC acts like someone who just got finished awkwardly noticing their ex in the mall or something "yeah...well she looks good...looks happy" christ he's a former pro wrestler not your highschool sweet heart... Considering how many of us see wheelchair bound/dead at 40 childhood heroes from wrestling I think it's excusable in such circumstances. It's good to see someone not suffering after coming out of the business. I am of two minds about CM Punk's and his situation with WWE: part of me commends him and feels he should serve as a role model for many future young wrestlers because A. he was smart about his money and did not blow it all on partying and extravagances that he is perfectly happy without, and B. if there is any one thing a successful man should know, it is when to stop-and he decided to stop while he was young and healthy enough to pursue other avenues. On that same note, I feel that future wrestlers should take note of how Punk ended his relationship with WWE as the way NOT to do it. It is always better to let a cooler head prevail and to not burn the bridge behind you-throwing a temper tantrum and storming out doesn't do you or anyone else any good. Even when your grievances are 100% legit, it is still best to be mature and level headed about it. Nuff said. But most people in the business have said they essentially agreed in business terms to let it happen, and the likes of Austin, JR, Jericho etc have said Punk was right to stop if he was too hurt/tired, without outside drama. The only drama is from fans who don't know what happened. It'd be like if I walked out on my job after explaining that, I don't know, I had to go and get rehab for my neck again, boss agreed, but because I don't put myself out there to explain everything to people who have no relevance to the situation (which no one has to, no one's owed an explanation) they started saying we raged at each other and I stormed out. It doesn't mean it's true, people just like the most dramatic/argumentative reasons in their own minds. Both the company and CM Punk were happy to let the time run out, a company known for belittling and insulting people who leave, people BIGGER than Punk like Steve Austin got buried by The Rock in such circumstances. CM Punk did not insult the company once, he thanked the fans a few times for their support, and hasn't done stupid shoot interviews or whatever else. It's just drama people are making up because they're taking the kayfabe characters of Vince McMahon/Triple H/CM Punk to be the real people who discussed the matters away from the needless prying eyes of the public.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 22, 2014 13:07:13 GMT -5
Once again the IWC acts like someone who just got finished awkwardly noticing their ex in the mall or something "yeah...well she looks good...looks happy" christ he's a former pro wrestler not your highschool sweet heart... Considering how many of us see wheelchair bound/dead at 40 childhood heroes from wrestling I think it's excusable in such circumstances. It's good to see someone not suffering after coming out of the business. I am of two minds about CM Punk's and his situation with WWE: part of me commends him and feels he should serve as a role model for many future young wrestlers because A. he was smart about his money and did not blow it all on partying and extravagances that he is perfectly happy without, and B. if there is any one thing a successful man should know, it is when to stop-and he decided to stop while he was young and healthy enough to pursue other avenues. On that same note, I feel that future wrestlers should take note of how Punk ended his relationship with WWE as the way NOT to do it. It is always better to let a cooler head prevail and to not burn the bridge behind you-throwing a temper tantrum and storming out doesn't do you or anyone else any good. Even when your grievances are 100% legit, it is still best to be mature and level headed about it. Nuff said. But most people in the business have said they essentially agreed in business terms to let it happen, and the likes of Austin, JR, Jericho etc have said Punk was right to stop if he was too hurt/tired, without outside drama. The only drama is from fans who don't know what happened. It'd be like if I walked out on my job after explaining that, I don't know, I had to go and get rehab for my neck again, boss agreed, but because I don't put myself out there to explain everything to people who have no relevance to the situation (which no one has to, no one's owed an explanation) they started saying we raged at each other and I stormed out. It doesn't mean it's true, people just like the most dramatic/argumentative reasons in their own minds. Both the company and CM Punk were happy to let the time run out, a company known for belittling and insulting people who leave, people BIGGER than Punk like Steve Austin got buried by The Rock in such circumstances. CM Punk did not insult the company once, he thanked the fans a few times for their support, and hasn't done stupid shoot interviews or whatever else. It's just drama people are making up because they're taking the kayfabe characters of Vince McMahon/Triple H/CM Punk to be the real people who discussed the matters away from the needless prying eyes of the public. I don't dispute his motivations in the slightest, honestly I don't see how anyone could. But I certainly hope it was a mutual and amicable parting of ways as you attribute. If the various rumors have any truth, I would still say it is just not the best way if handling it. I say that as someone who has been guilty of flipping out and burning a few bridges I wish I had not myself. Is say the same thing if he were an accountant rather than a pro wrestler.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 13:10:45 GMT -5
Considering how many of us see wheelchair bound/dead at 40 childhood heroes from wrestling I think it's excusable in such circumstances. It's good to see someone not suffering after coming out of the business. But most people in the business have said they essentially agreed in business terms to let it happen, and the likes of Austin, JR, Jericho etc have said Punk was right to stop if he was too hurt/tired, without outside drama. The only drama is from fans who don't know what happened. It'd be like if I walked out on my job after explaining that, I don't know, I had to go and get rehab for my neck again, boss agreed, but because I don't put myself out there to explain everything to people who have no relevance to the situation (which no one has to, no one's owed an explanation) they started saying we raged at each other and I stormed out. It doesn't mean it's true, people just like the most dramatic/argumentative reasons in their own minds. Both the company and CM Punk were happy to let the time run out, a company known for belittling and insulting people who leave, people BIGGER than Punk like Steve Austin got buried by The Rock in such circumstances. CM Punk did not insult the company once, he thanked the fans a few times for their support, and hasn't done stupid shoot interviews or whatever else. It's just drama people are making up because they're taking the kayfabe characters of Vince McMahon/Triple H/CM Punk to be the real people who discussed the matters away from the needless prying eyes of the public. I don't dispute his motivations in the slightest, honestly I don't see how anyone could. But I certainly hope it was a mutual and amicable parting of ways as you attribute. If the various rumors have any truth, I would still say it is just not the best way if handling it. I say that as someone who has been guilty of flipping out and burning a few bridges I wish I had not myself. Is say the same thing if he were an accountant rather than a pro wrestler. I see what you're saying, but honestly, no one knows what happened, and given the company has praised/promoted his material on TV lately, and Punk has nothing negative to say about the company at all I honestly think they both realized how hurt/exhausted/stressed out he was. Same as with any job, if that accountant had repetitive stress disorder or had worked too hard for too long to make him start to become sloppy/undedicated in their work due to a lack of holiday breaks, any boss would give them a break away from things as a means of keeping bridges intact. He'll be back, I'm willing to bet this, erm, *looks around room*, this BANANA, and a copy of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, and some admin I've not bothered to finish yet...
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Post by khali on Jul 22, 2014 13:20:09 GMT -5
It's not as prevalent in this thread as others (I only saw one person initially bring it up) but it's very odd to me people are hung up on the "they're the whole reason you're on the red carpet!" or "you only have all this because of the company/fans" thing. It's not like he was just handed stuff by his employer and he owes his fame and riches to them entirely. He also has all of this because of his performance and skills. If he wasn't talented enough to be in that position and rise to where we went, he wouldn't have been there. He earned what he has so if he want to walk away and enjoy it, cool. If he doesn't want to like the company or fans approaching him, cool. No one is owed anything now.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 22, 2014 13:20:30 GMT -5
I don't dispute his motivations in the slightest, honestly I don't see how anyone could. But I certainly hope it was a mutual and amicable parting of ways as you attribute. If the various rumors have any truth, I would still say it is just not the best way if handling it. I say that as someone who has been guilty of flipping out and burning a few bridges I wish I had not myself. Is say the same thing if he were an accountant rather than a pro wrestler. I see what you're saying, but honestly, no one knows what happened, and given the company has praised/promoted his material on TV lately, and Punk has nothing negative to say about the company at all I honestly think they both realized how hurt/exhausted/stressed out he was. Same as with any job, if that accountant had repetitive stress disorder or had worked too hard for too long to make him start to become sloppy/undedicated in their work due to a lack of holiday breaks, any boss would give them a break away from things as a means of keeping bridges intact. He'll be back, I'm willing to bet this, erm, *looks around room*, this BANANA, and a copy of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, and some admin I've not bothered to finish yet... I'm also hoping this means WWE as a company have learned from past such instances themselves, as recent fence mending with Warrior or Bruno Sammartino reflects.
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Post by sybaku on Jul 22, 2014 13:23:15 GMT -5
Once again the IWC acts like someone who just got finished awkwardly noticing their ex in the mall or something "yeah...well she looks good...looks happy" christ he's a former pro wrestler not your highschool sweet heart... IWC-"Us, we're good.... Just you know hanging around, we started cheering Dean Ambrose he's pretty cool, it's not serious or anything, like if you wanna just pop back for a one off or something that'd be cool, Dean wouldn't even mind, he's cool like that.... Anyyyyyway it's been good catching up.... Soooo"... Awkwardly whistles and walks away from CM Punk
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 22, 2014 13:27:24 GMT -5
It's not as prevalent in this thread as others (I only saw one person initially bring it up) but it's very odd to me people are hung up on the "they're the whole reason you're on the red carpet!" or "you only have all this because of the company/fans" thing. It's not like he was just handed stuff by his employer and he owes his fame and riches to them entirely. He also has all of this because of his performance and skills. If he wasn't talented enough to be in that position and rise to where we went, he wouldn't have been there. He earned what he has so if he want to walk away and enjoy it, cool. If he doesn't want to like the company or fans approaching him, cool. No one is owed anything now. Better to count ones blessings: WWE gave him opportunities and advantages many others would be eager to have, so better to at least maintain gratitude for that. And while I get he doesn't like being pestered by fans all the time, there is still no excuse for being a dick, which it sounds like he has done sometimes, but then again who hasn't?
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Post by lildude8218 on Jul 22, 2014 13:31:47 GMT -5
*Self Destruction of CM Punk Scene One*
HHH: When he came in I told him he could use the Pepsi Plunge as his finisher. It wouldn't bother me. He said "Oh, no! Mr. Triple H. I am not worthy of using your move." Then he bowed to me for like a whole minute. It was so awkward. Then he asked if I needed help carrying my bags.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jul 22, 2014 13:39:14 GMT -5
You know, now that he is free I hope he gets the shot on @midnight that he lost when he left. Actually, he's the guest on a Live Nerdist podcast from Comic Con.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 22, 2014 13:57:47 GMT -5
As long as AJ is still in WWE, I don't care.
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Post by salsashark on Jul 22, 2014 14:10:44 GMT -5
I have never really had any doubt Punk would be back in WWE. This really only confirmed that. Once again the IWC acts like someone who just got finished awkwardly noticing their ex in the mall or something "yeah...well she looks good...looks happy" christ he's a former pro wrestler not your highschool sweet heart... This is one of the funniest, most on-point comments I have ever read on this board. A+ job.
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Post by The Tee Why on Jul 22, 2014 14:48:03 GMT -5
Once again the IWC acts like someone who just got finished awkwardly noticing their ex in the mall or something "yeah...well she looks good...looks happy" christ he's a former pro wrestler not your highschool sweet heart... IWC-"Us, we're good.... Just you know hanging around, we started cheering Dean Ambrose he's pretty cool, it's not serious or anything, like if you wanna just pop back for a one off or something that'd be cool, Dean wouldn't even mind, he's cool like that.... Anyyyyyway it's been good catching up.... Soooo"... Awkwardly whistles and walks away from CM Punk We're working on ourselves...you know...I met this great new guy Daniel but he hasn't been around much lately...sounds like someone I know..anyways bye!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 14:51:50 GMT -5
I've never heard of this music award show before.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jul 22, 2014 14:54:08 GMT -5
You know, now that he is free I hope he gets the shot on @midnight that he lost when he left. Actually, he's the guest on a Live Nerdist podcast from Comic Con. Not shocked. I have a feeling he'll be joining the Nerdist family, doing a podcast and other stuff for them. I'll have to check this out though. Still want him on @midnight.
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