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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 25, 2014 13:41:13 GMT -5
It won't work.
The book is literally nothing except e-mails and sex scenes, none of which can be conveyed on screen, because in the case of the sex scenes, it would have to be pretty much a porn movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 13:47:11 GMT -5
God forbid there's an exploitation movie aimed at women, for better or worse. It's not like you see this same kind of tsk tsking for something like The Expendables or Kill Bill or The Green Inferno or Sin City or any range of hyperstylized thoroughly unrealistic movies aimed at men. It's a popular franchise that's probably going to make a lot of money with a movie adaptation. I mean we get what 10, 20 mindless comic book movies a year nowadays, because it's more/less assured they'll do some amount of business, at least a handful of absolutely worthless hundred million dollar spectacles because China can't get enough of that shit, why not have a sleazy romance novel movie? Because 50 Shades of Grey romanticizes abusive relationships. People who read (and watch) this tripe are going to come out thinking this is how BDSM in relationships works when it couldn't be further from the truth. Wait. So things that happen in non-documentary films aren't reflective of reality?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 13:53:36 GMT -5
It's terrible at best, extremely sexist at worst. You're not too familiar with that lifestyle, are you? It goes both ways. A lot of women prefer to be the "pants wearer" in that aspect in their lives.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 13:55:57 GMT -5
God forbid there's an exploitation movie aimed at women, for better or worse. It's not like you see this same kind of tsk tsking for something like The Expendables or Kill Bill or The Green Inferno or Sin City or any range of hyperstylized thoroughly unrealistic movies aimed at men. It's a popular franchise that's probably going to make a lot of money with a movie adaptation. I mean we get what 10, 20 mindless comic book movies a year nowadays, because it's more/less assured they'll do some amount of business, at least a handful of absolutely worthless hundred million dollar spectacles because China can't get enough of that shit, why not have a sleazy romance novel movie? Because 50 Shades of Grey romanticizes abusive relationships. People who read (and watch) this tripe are going to come out thinking this is how BDSM in relationships works when it couldn't be further from the truth. Granted, I have not read the book, but from the trailer, it looked like a clear separation from regular life, and their private sex lives. You make it seem like he is just randomly hitting her.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 25, 2014 14:11:53 GMT -5
Fifty Shades isn't abusive in the sense of being hit. It's abusive because she basically lives in fear of him. He controls her completely against her will, hacks into her bank account and e-mails, which is unlike anything relating to BDSM, which is why many people into that lifestyle, also hate the book for portraying it as something it isn't, and the writer seems to think all of this is romantic.
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Post by Perd on Jul 25, 2014 14:18:35 GMT -5
I just hope no one ever finds my Wyatt Family fan-fic, 50 Shades of Bray.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 15:14:37 GMT -5
I just hope no one ever finds my Wyatt Family fan-fic, 50 Shades of Bray. GIVE ME NOW I will give my opinion as soon as possible. As both a Master/Sir and a Pup/Boy, I do have a serious opinion on this, and I promise it will not go to NSFW territory
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 16:06:27 GMT -5
It's terrible at best, extremely sexist at worst. You're not too familiar with that lifestyle, are you? It goes both ways. A lot of women prefer to be the "pants wearer" in that aspect in their lives. Women actually into that sort of thing do not agree...
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Post by angryfan on Jul 25, 2014 16:25:38 GMT -5
Fifty Shades isn't abusive in the sense of being hit. It's abusive because she basically lives in fear of him. He controls her completely against her will, hacks into her bank account and e-mails, which is unlike anything relating to BDSM, which is why many people into that lifestyle, also hate the book for portraying it as something it isn't, and the writer seems to think all of this is romantic. Bingo. It's not the physical aspect, as that is something that can be part of a relationship like that, trust me. What straight up pisses me off is that the whole idea "safe, sane, consensual" is lost on them. This, in turn, won't lead to people having awakenings or discovering things, it will lead to "Oh, so I can do whatever I want as long as I give myself this label" and that's just horseshit.
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Post by angryfan on Jul 25, 2014 16:27:39 GMT -5
You're not too familiar with that lifestyle, are you? It goes both ways. A lot of women prefer to be the "pants wearer" in that aspect in their lives. Women actually into that sort of thing do not agree... I can promise you there are, because I know quite a few of them.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 25, 2014 16:49:53 GMT -5
That looks like total ass.
Awesome remix by Bey, though.
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 25, 2014 16:50:45 GMT -5
It won't work. The book is literally nothing except e-mails and sex scenes, none of which can be conveyed on screen, because in the case of the sex scenes, it would have to be pretty much a porn movie. It's funny how a porn parody of Fifty Shades actually makes more sense than whatever this movie ends up being.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jul 25, 2014 17:55:49 GMT -5
Wait, the guys name is Grey?
I did not know that.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jul 25, 2014 18:26:08 GMT -5
Wait, the guys name is Grey? I did not know that. Yes, and apparently there are fifty shades of him. I'm not sure how they are going to represent each shade of him exactly. Maybe one shade he gives the girl happy and nice sex and in the next one he gives her angry and mean sex. He may end up giving her sex while dressed like a pirate, I don't know that just seems like an awful lot of shades. They could end up being just about anything.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 25, 2014 18:51:05 GMT -5
This freaking movie isn't even out yet and already I am sick of hearing about it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 19:24:42 GMT -5
Honestly, this movie is going to set us back another 20 years.
Might as well show the movie "Ass" and call it a day.
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Post by Glitch on Jul 26, 2014 3:31:27 GMT -5
Wait, the guys name is Grey? I did not know that. Yes, and apparently there are fifty shades of him. I'm not sure how they are going to represent each shade of him exactly. Maybe one shade he gives the girl happy and nice sex and in the next one he gives her angry and mean sex. He may end up giving her sex while dressed like a pirate, I don't know that just seems like an awful lot of shades. They could end up being just about anything. I look forward to the donkey show portion.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jul 26, 2014 3:36:50 GMT -5
I find it annoying really that many genuinely talented authors who are creative, have great prose, write good original stories with engaging plots and characters are virtually unknown yet pieces of crap like this have millions of fans and a movie being made about it.
Then again, I guess the same can be said about most forms of entertainment. The average person of the general public just seems to enjoy shit for whatever reason.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Jul 26, 2014 4:17:22 GMT -5
Fifty Shades isn't abusive in the sense of being hit. It's abusive because she basically lives in fear of him. He controls her completely against her will, hacks into her bank account and e-mails, which is unlike anything relating to BDSM, which is why many people into that lifestyle, also hate the book for portraying it as something it isn't, and the writer seems to think all of this is romantic. While you're correct about it not being an accepted part of the mainstream BDSM Lifestyle, the story (I assume) is just a play on the exceedingly common submissive fantasy of being unwillingly forced into various situations and being completely controlled and finding love through that sensation of being controlled/afraid(In a fantasy sense)/etc. From what I understand, it sounds like your completely standard fantasy scenario that's as old as time. I'm not sure why anybody in the Lifestyle would make a fuss about a fantasy scenario being made into a movie, except that they like to make a fuss about everything and have an innate fear of *gasp* vanilla people being interested in the same sort of things they are. Sometimes it's just not as sexy when it's mainstream. I guess it makes sense to be worried that some people may think that's how BDSM relationships work out--some don't and, unfortunately, some do. That's life: some relationships are abusive and some aren't. With BDSM it can unfortunately be a little blurry, especially to an outsider, as to what constitutes abuse. A relationship where the power dynamic extends to all aspects of life may look exponentially more abusive than another relationship where there's just a little kinky play in the bedroom. The fact is that the former could be perfectly healthy and the later could be abusive. It can happen anywhere. So I get the fear others in the Lifestyle may have when they see this movie and go: 1) Oh, they're going to think that we're like that! or 2) Oh no, somebody's going to abuse somebody else thinking this is OK! And while those are understandable fears, they're not exactly reasonable. Fiction is fiction is fiction. Fantasy is fantasy. People are responsible for their own stupid actions. 50 Shades of Grey sounds like a typical male dominant/female submissive fantasy to me. Lots of people find that hot. That's cool. They want to read a poorly written book/watch a movie about it, that's great. If it makes them decide to try a potentially fulfilling alternate lifestyle, even better. I don't think anybody with a brain is viewing it as a "how to" on relationships. If they are, Heaven help us. Now, if there was a mainstream FemDom equivalent, that wasn't played for laughs, then it'd be truly scandalous. And my Wife and I might finally read poorly written books and watch poorly made adaptations of said books together. So, uh, yeah...contrary to what may has been stated elsewhere in the thread, female dominant/male submissive BDSM relationships do, in fact, exist and the lifestyle is not intrinsically sexist.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jul 26, 2014 4:20:41 GMT -5
Judging by that trailer it would of been far less embarrassing if they had just made it into a porno.
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