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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 21, 2014 6:04:54 GMT -5
Well hey, they get to exist for a little longer. That's something.
Lots of problems still to overcome though.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 21, 2014 6:38:55 GMT -5
How the hell did TNA get FOUR MORE MONTHS on Live Global Television with the absolute DOGSHIT they are putting on TV??
I believe Full House getting Nine Seasons worth of content more than TNA even getting four more months after the shit they've pulled
What is Spike just waiting for the entire Foundation to collapse beneath them instead of just some??
It just perplexes me... seriously. Let it DIE. The world will thank you.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 21, 2014 7:13:31 GMT -5
TNA has been erratic since day one and it's had a bad reputation with the internet fanbase for the best part of a decade, despite this, no company has sprung up to overtake them as the #2 company, no-one has appeared and pitched themselves to to Spike as an alternative without the baggage when TNA's deal has been up for renewal, so what makes people think that the death of TNA will cause another great company to rise from the ashes and do everything right?
It didn't happen in the 90s when the AWA and WCCW went under, it didn't happen when WCW went under, all that happened was the market for wrestling shrank, stagnation set in as the WWF/E found itself with less competition, and it got harder for new wrestling companies to get any sort of traction. The best hope wrestling has of seeing a better #2 promotion is if TNA get renewed and bought out and have people who know wrestling put in charge of the company, people who can rebuild. Dixie has done a lot for TNA, but she seems determined to keep on listening to the wrong people and needs to go.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 21, 2014 7:19:50 GMT -5
I know people want to remain optimistic about TNA Surviving and maybe using the time to improve But I've given TNA nearly FIVE YEARS to Improve, and they haven't. 3 Months ain't gonna do shit but delay the inevitable they've built for themselves at this point, And with all the Talent that's leaving it makes it even worse. So honestly, TNA is a wounded animal that just needs to be put down to me. And I know people want more wrestling variety on TV that isn't WWE, but at this point, go online, go Indy, because if TNA is the alternative at this point then there might as well not be one... a few bright spots in a mound of shit isn't an alternative to me, it's something that I probably wouldn't watch regularly if it wasn't for the awesome people here, cause ya'll are awesome and the Threads we make are awesome, I wish we could give Magic knows Black Lives Matter a live mic so he could dub over TNA Commentary Sorry if I'm being really negative but I really just want to see this company go down, I want the workers to find work and provide for themselves and families, but TNA has used Second Chance after Second Chance and they aren't getting any more from me unless they pull the miracle of miracles and none of these fools in Creative and Business for this company are Black Jesus...
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Post by Krazee on Aug 21, 2014 7:21:46 GMT -5
i like TNA but i wanted to post this
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 21, 2014 7:38:35 GMT -5
I don't really think they suck even. Make weird and wrong decisions sometimes definitely, but that's every wrestling company. Personally, I just think the IWC is way too harsh on TNA, and that the LOLTNA movement is killing it more than anything in specific the company has ever done. TNA succeeded back in the day due to people being positive about it, and it's fans fervently spreading the word as well as a WWE audience looking for wrestling elsewhere. Nowadays people just pick at every single thing they do instead of sitting back and enjoying the product. When I actually go out and talk to casual wrestling fans I know I don't hear anything like what I see on the internet. It's generally either positive or general unawareness. There's so little actual discussion of TNA content on these forums nowadays. It's really demoralizing as a fan to come on here and read the TNA boards, cause it just feels like people who hate the company are the ones posting. Part of it is the fact that people here on FAN like making fun of tna so much, that they make fun of every single aspect of the company. To the point where they make even the good parts sound like utter crap. Tna supplies more than enough material to be ridiculed, but if you check the Impact threads every week, you'd swear that nothing good ever happens. sometimes they aren't even jokes, but guys just saying it sucks at every single moment that happens. I'm not expecting everybody to like tna, but some people are really stretching their pessimism when it comes to news on the negotiations. How many times TNA has promised that they learned from their mistakes? How many times they said that this dangling carrot is needed to get the next level? Or this change in creative direction will solve everything? Or we need this wrestler to break into the mainstream? I bought into TNA way back when it was a glorified weekly ppv indie. I didn't like it because it was not WWE like most fans of early TNA used as their battle cry. I liked it because it was a good show with some great matches and angles. I overlooked shitty things like Russo or using other promotions for heat because the wrestling was the selling point. But years of TNA downplaying what brought them to the dance, mind numbing booking, and consistent front office mismanagement eroded my faith in them. We get great moment liks BFG Series 2012 and follow that up with Aces and Eight. We warned about letting Hogan and Bischoff coming in and taking over. Folks here said it was a good idea, other said big mistake. Guess what? The "negative" people were right. Seeing people like Styles, Sabin, Daniels, Kaz, and Ray leave to get replace with underwhelming scabs doesn't fill me with hope. Seeing Sting finally leaving was good but a guy like Bully Ray who basically was the Triple H in TNA in front and behind the camera calling it quits suddenly doesn't tell me the future is looking bright. And people say folks are way too negative and shit on everything. You must missed the parts where people praising the current reign of Lashley. Or big ups going out to Gail Kim. Or recognizing EC3 and Spud as the best duo TNA has since Bad Influence went to greener pastures. I and others can't check our brains when TNA used Dixie going through a table as some groundbreaking, game changing event. That whole angle was disgusting and the aftermath just as bad. I want to be happy for TNA getting another 3 months to show and prove to Spike but I can't. Like someone whose been constantly lied to, my trust in them is empty. What direction are they going to use next? More hardcore EC-DUB matches and angles. More ripping off the Attitude Era greatest's hits. Creative retelling of WWE angles like James Wyatt and Sanada or World Champion Eric Young. Russo influenced storylines that they swear Russo didn't write. So I'm not holding a parade for TNA because as soon I give back some of my support, they will do something to ruin it. And I really don't care if anyone does fill the void of being number 2 promotion in the US. Don't care if GFW actually becomes a thing or TNA goes the way of the dodo. Folks keep talking about the wrestling industry is "dying". But it's better than it was around the death of ECW and WCW. There are tons of great alternatives out there. The ways to watch and consume pro wrestling is much better. There are reason why TNA having broke into the mainstream and became much bigger (name of the company, lack of marketing). There are reasons why the WWE Network isn't doing gangbusters as folks think it should (like how people were used to watching most of the WWE video library free on YouTube and don't feel they should pay for it). As long as people spend money for said product instead of trying to find bit torrents, it will be fine.
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Post by Danimal on Aug 21, 2014 8:06:24 GMT -5
My guess is Spike is undecided and wants to see how TNA does on Wednesdays once folks get used to the switch.
There are things they could do better but I've been enjoying the show overall. Really seemed like they were trying harder in New York and they've found some things that work. MVP, King, and Lashley make a good heel stable and after screwing the pooch on Magnus's reign I love what a beast Lashley gets to be.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 21, 2014 8:45:05 GMT -5
I would really like to have this attitude, but the problem is that TNA's brand and reputation have been absolutely destroyed for some time. Even if TNA can secure a decent TV deal, they have very little opportunity for growth as the greater wrestling fanbase knows of TNA Impact Wrestling, but has been convinced over time that it isn't worth the time to follow or spend money on. It may be very bad in the short term if TNA dies, as a lot of talented people will be out of jobs with very few openings out there, but I really want to see if someone else can occupy the #2 North American wrestling promotion slot with a clean slate and fresh ideas. The possibility won't exist with TNA languishing around doing the same 1.0 rating for an eternity. I don't want to see talented people out of jobs. Not only will those wrestlers be out of jobs, it will negatively affect WWE as well once The likes of Angle and Jeff go crawling back and get the stupid nostalgia demigod treatment, and you know it will happen. I want to see a promotion rise up as well, but if they become #2, I'd rather it be because they've surpassed TNA in popularity, not by just slipping into that spot by default. Yeah, I don't want to see people out of jobs either, but the vast majority of those jobs weren't exactly lucrative to begin with. Maybe 10 of those spots all together are decisively above indy tier pay, and another 30 are good for the guaranteed work. The problem with a potential #3 company surpassing TNA is that the market just isn't big enough to sustain three companies long enough for that situation to happen. I understand that there is no guarantee that if TNA goes out of business, that there may not be another wrestling promotion able to come close to what TNA has accomplished. That, I understand the concern for, but at the same time, maybe someone else can take a late night TV slot on Spike TV and come up with something different. Maybe the void in the industry can motivate some of the top level indies into taking some risks and going national. I think that the fallout of TNA's collapse would be far more interesting than watching Impact make the same god damn mistakes over and over and over again while all those wrestlers in the 100 wrestling jobs that TNA provides get rotated in and out of the system, wasting their prime years going nowhere and becoming more disillusioned in the system day by day.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 21, 2014 11:12:22 GMT -5
TNA at this point is kinda like the last season of "That 70's Show", no one was left and it got so bad that you wished someone would pull the plug. f***ing Randy.
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Post by cjh on Aug 21, 2014 11:31:21 GMT -5
How the hell did TNA get FOUR MORE MONTHS on Live Global Television with the absolute DOGSHIT they are putting on TV??
Actually, Spike only gave them 3 more months. Impact was going to air on Spike in September no matter what. It was October onward that was in doubt.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 21, 2014 11:35:09 GMT -5
How the hell did TNA get FOUR MORE MONTHS on Live Global Television with the absolute DOGSHIT they are putting on TV??
Actually, Spike only gave them 3 more months. Impact was going to air on Spike in September no matter what. It was October onward that was in doubt. Yeah I think me saying 4 months might have thrown people. To clear it up if I did confuse people, they get 3 extra months from Spike but 4 on Wednesdays to prove themselves.
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Post by 543Y2J on Aug 21, 2014 12:39:41 GMT -5
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Post by Neo: "The One" who CLAPS on Aug 21, 2014 13:28:53 GMT -5
TNA at this point is kinda like the last season of "That 70's Show", no one was left and it got so bad that you wished someone would pull the plug. f***ing Randy. Man Randy sucked
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 21, 2014 14:10:12 GMT -5
TNA at this point is kinda like the last season of "That 70's Show", no one was left and it got so bad that you wished someone would pull the plug. f***ing Randy. Man Randy sucked Lol, I loved how at the finale even Eric's cameo was better than Randy. The current TNA roster is Randy
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Post by lildude8218 on Aug 21, 2014 14:30:18 GMT -5
it says TNA will remain on through the end of the year but it doesn't say anything about new episodes....
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 21, 2014 14:48:24 GMT -5
it says TNA will remain on through the end of the year but it doesn't say anything about new episodes.... It's gonna be reruns of the midget jerking off in the trashcan
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Post by jagilki on Aug 21, 2014 14:55:26 GMT -5
Spud or Davey Richards?
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Aug 21, 2014 16:03:13 GMT -5
411mania » Wrestling » News TNA Agrees to New Multi-Year TV Deal with Supersport in Africa Posted by Larry Csonka on 08.21.2014 I can't wait for Kenny King: Apartheid Apologist
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Post by Been burned too many times on Aug 21, 2014 16:18:04 GMT -5
How the hell did TNA get FOUR MORE MONTHS on Live Global Television with the absolute DOGSHIT they are putting on TV??
I believe Full House getting Nine Seasons worth of content more than TNA even getting four more months after the shit they've pulled
What is Spike just waiting for the entire Foundation to collapse beneath them instead of just some??
It just perplexes me... seriously. Let it DIE. The world will thank you.
You are...overreacting. --- The idea that quality of the show matters when it comes to ratings is hilarious. Something being popular doesn't mean its good/bad, it just means a lot of folks know it and watch it.
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Post by Malcolm on Aug 21, 2014 16:33:10 GMT -5
How the hell did TNA get FOUR MORE MONTHS on Live Global Television with the absolute DOGSHIT they are putting on TV??
I believe Full House getting Nine Seasons worth of content more than TNA even getting four more months after the shit they've pulled
What is Spike just waiting for the entire Foundation to collapse beneath them instead of just some??
It just perplexes me... seriously. Let it DIE. The world will thank you.
You are...overreacting. --- The idea that quality of the show matters when it comes to ratings is hilarious. Something being popular doesn't mean its good/bad, it just means a lot of folks know it and watch it. If quality did dictate ratings, stuff like Honey Boo Boo would be rightfully dead...
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