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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:38:43 GMT -5
The sad reality is outside of Roman Reigns (save till Wrestlemania) and Ambrose (who is busy feuding with Rollins/filming a movie) they have no one else to face Lesnar really. Man they should of built up more credible babyfaces in the midcard and they should of never dropped Cesaro just like that and killed all of his momentum. He could of been teasing a babyface turn while with Heyman and upset Heyman only focuses on Lesnar and you have a natural storyline and rivalry and a perfect way to get Cesaro over as a mega babyface.
The only guy I can think off outside of Cena is Dolph Ziggler since he is the new IC Champion, is getting really over with the crowd, and is a perfect underdog to face Lesnar. Plus he can sell the brutality of Lesnar better then anyone else in the WWE.
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Post by Lancers on Aug 19, 2014 20:39:10 GMT -5
This is what I expected. I expect Cena will amount some offense and make it interesting, but I expect Lesnar will retain and he won't be seen until Survivor Series.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:40:17 GMT -5
Of course Cena is wrestling Lesnar again. That's how the old rematch clause trick works.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 19, 2014 20:43:06 GMT -5
I wish they'd have went a different direction, as there's nothing kayfabe wise that showed Cena deserving a rematch other than being a previous champ.
I hope we get more of the same ass kicking from Brock.
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Post by Jiren on Aug 19, 2014 20:44:41 GMT -5
NOC - Cena HIAC - skip - Have Rollins/Ambrose M.E in the Cell Survivor Series - Shaemus *Have Rusev win US title pre PPV due to shenanigans* (NOC maybe?) TLC - Skip Rumble - Ambrose - Bryan wins Rumble EC - Lesnar/Ambrose/Reigns/Orton/Shaemus/Cena Mania - Bryan
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Aug 19, 2014 20:47:12 GMT -5
ZOMG I CAN'TZ BELIEVES THEY'RE DOING CEENA VS LESNER AGAINNN
I'm seeing this a few places (haven't really read past a couple of posts here so don't know if people are complaining here too) but who the hell else would he face if Batista's not coming back? Big Show again? Sheamus? Jack Swagger? He has to face Cena again
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Post by bluemeii on Aug 19, 2014 20:53:52 GMT -5
Well this way it gets the spectre of Cena away from the belt as he had his rematch. Now they can leave Brock as the unconquerable beast that's only around via hype man (Heyman). They can then use the U.S. and IC belts as a stepping stone to challenge the champ, like they should, as the World champ isn't going to be on tv cutting shitty promos every week. Let those belts mean something with the World belt on Lesner.
Cause other than Cena, in kayfabe, there is absolutely no one that should be fighting for the belt at the next PPV. Reigns, nope not ready. Rollins, he's gonna be carrying that briefcase a while. Ambrose??? the guy has had one feud since he went solo and he's been getting his ass kicked the whole time, sorry no. Win a match first.
In terms of credible challengers, next in line, and keeping with heel/face dynamics like they tend to do in general, it would have to be Sheamus imo. He is carrying a belt right now, but he's also a multi time champ and is still booked strong.
It will probably be a returning Batista though, I think he'll get some better reactions this time around since he won't be fighting for space at the top with DB.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 21:03:39 GMT -5
This is around the time they could have been doing a Cesaro/Lesnar feud if they hadn't dropped Cesaro for no reason.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 21:25:50 GMT -5
Why do you people see Lesnar losing? Lesnar looks so right with this title I don't see him losing, but I see valiant Cena figuring out a way to almost beat him. It's way too soon for that to happen, honestly it shouldn't at all.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 19, 2014 21:36:30 GMT -5
You know ff they decide get the title off of Lesnar via stripping him of the belt for whatever reason, I want Rollins to immediately cash in and become the automatic champion just to be an asshole.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 21:46:29 GMT -5
I won't lie, this really scares me. But there are a few angles to this that make it hard for me to really feel ultimately good or bad about this. On one hand Brock Lesnar's super part-time status has to make it really tough to work with as a Champ, but then again those limitations can also play to WWE's benefit as it forces them to make him feel special every time he shows up. John Cena and Brock Lesnar have a masterful chemistry so even if the ending is yet another Cena win at least it should be memorable. Part of me thinks that this story is better told over a long arc, let Cena sit with the loss for a while, but selfishly I don't want John Cena to have his win back against Brock.
Ultimately even if the story is told to perfection, if the end result is Cena getting redemption and earning the Title back against Brock I don't wanna see it. John Cena's a great performer and Brock/Cena seem to be a magical pairing so it's unfortunate that I can't sit back and just enjoy it but the reality is we've been beat to death by this story during Cena's tenure that I just don't want it anymore.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 19, 2014 22:01:54 GMT -5
I'm going out on a limb and guess this match ends via ref stoppage... though they could just go the Rocky 4 route and have him climb a mountain beat brock and then talk about ending communism with his fists
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Post by wisdomwizard on Aug 19, 2014 22:13:53 GMT -5
Pretty sure this is because of the Rematch Clause, nothing more. Only way they'd let Cena get the belt back would be if Rollins cashes in, but they're not going to do it that so soon on a B-PPV.
They sky isn't falling.
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Post by BigBadZ on Aug 19, 2014 22:19:30 GMT -5
Lesnar'll win, only question is how. Lesnar should beat him clean as sheet though with a little more difficulty than Summerslam but I doubt it happens like that. C ould see someone getting involved (Kane) and Cena losing thanks to that but it doesn't look good for Brock. Either way, I think the PPV ends with Brock and Batista having a face off. This is almost as bad as Cena winning
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Post by bluemeii on Aug 19, 2014 22:21:22 GMT -5
I'm going out on a limb and guess this match ends via ref stoppage... though they could just go the Rocky 4 route and have him climb a mountain beat brock and then talk about ending communism with his fists No that's how the Rusev feud is gonna end. Vince still thinks it's the 80s as is
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 19, 2014 22:22:32 GMT -5
Lesnar'll win, only question is how. Lesnar should beat him clean as sheet though with a little more difficulty than Summerslam but I doubt it happens like that. C ould see someone getting involved (Kane) and Cena losing thanks to that but it doesn't look good for Brock. Either way, I think the PPV ends with Brock and Batista having a face off. This is almost as bad as Cena winning I agree but I couldn't think of anyone else expendable and I kinda hope they do something where Brock gets pissed about him getting involved and beats Kane into retirement.
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Post by mizerable on Aug 19, 2014 22:31:59 GMT -5
Rollins is walking out with the belt, isn't he? Man, I normally hate hotshotting, but I would mark the f*** out if this happened. I said it before, but it would be an interesting aspect if all three Shield members became champion after they split. Rollins is likely the least to be pushed in the long run, so starting with him would be my choice so the other two have a good opportunity to look good if they beat him for it.
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 19, 2014 22:33:25 GMT -5
I love Rollins, but if WWE gave the legit biggest unstoppable monster only a month reigns, they'd be stupid as shit.
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Post by jjdash on Aug 19, 2014 23:06:52 GMT -5
With the face/heel discussion surrounding Lesnar, wouldn't a good course of action be to truly make him an unstoppable heel?
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Cena maintains he's not going to give up, but given the brutalisation he suffered as SS, he needs a few months to get his head together and promises, when the time comes, he will come back even stronger than before.
In the meantime Heyman hand picks Lesnar's opponents to prove that Lesnar is better than all of the fan favourites. Lesnar uses the matches to show off his skills and that he can defeat his opponents in a variety of ways. This also allows scope for the fan favourites to get in a little believable offense but they are still squashes:
NoC: Ziggler HiaC: Ambrose SerSer: Sheamus
After each of these matches he absolutely brutalises his opponents with a chair, the steel steps, whatever. Really try to get him over as a heel who kills all of the universally popular wrestlers.
TLC: Cena is finally ready for his rematch. The match is a street fight/tables/chairs (doesn't matter). Is a good back and forth match where he ditches the boring underdog/boy scout act and just tries to get his title back and take revenge on Brock. Brock wins after an absolute war. Both guys come out strong, Cena avoids the usual complaints about his character being stale and gets respect for a good match.
Rumble: No title match. Whoever the #1 babyface is wins the rumble (Bryan, Reigns). Lesnar wasn't originally on the PPV to sell the match at TLC but comes out immediately after the rumble and kills the winner to end the show (hopefully to a chorus of boos at this point).
The rumble winner is written off TV for the next month with everyone asking whether he will be able to compete at Mania.
EC: Lesnar retains by being a scumbag heel. The rumble winner makes a surprise return, brawls with Lesnar and comes out on top.
WM: Babyface rumble winner wins the title in an epic battle
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Post by sonofblaine on Aug 19, 2014 23:17:51 GMT -5
If Lesnar just brutalizes Cena again that would be awesome. Cena having Lesnar almost beat and Rollins running in and cashing in on Lesnar for a Rollins/Lesnar program with a scared Rollins, watching his back and hiding behind Trip, would be fine by me.
Cena mounting a victorious comeback and winning the belt back seems most likely. If Rollins janks the belt from him after, that might make it better.
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