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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 18, 2014 22:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 18, 2014 22:45:28 GMT -5
Well, Gemma.....you're f***ed, and you know it too.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 18, 2014 22:51:30 GMT -5
Alvarez now owns the prostitute house.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 18, 2014 23:01:14 GMT -5
Unser is no longer helping Jax and after Jax just punched him, he puts out an APB on him for assault.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 18, 2014 23:13:50 GMT -5
And now Nero knows, thanks to Jax on the phone.
Yet he still helps Gemma.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 18, 2014 23:16:32 GMT -5
You have torn Nero apart, Gemma!!!
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 18, 2014 23:17:39 GMT -5
Cops are after Jax and Jax stole a car.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 18, 2014 23:27:24 GMT -5
Jax has told the club that Gemma killed Tara.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 18, 2014 23:39:58 GMT -5
The episode ends with Gemma on the run.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 18, 2014 23:43:44 GMT -5
Second to last episode is in two weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 1:16:27 GMT -5
I haven't enjoyed this season very much at all, but I'll admit, tonight's episode was really, really good - so much so that it gives me a bit of hope for the final two.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Nov 19, 2014 3:08:31 GMT -5
I have enjoyed this season and don't understand the criticisms with it. If it was Jax finding out from the beginning, then blood shed with every episode then people would complain about that. The slow burn to the reveal I feel was done exceptionally well and made it that much more heartbreaking. {Spoiler}Everything from Juice revealing the truth to Jax, as soon as Juice started telling Jax what happened I thought he was going to die right there. {Spoiler}Something tells me Jax won't kill Gemma and he will just let her live with the guilt of never seeing Thomas and Abel again, which is much harsher punishment than killing her in my opinion. {Spoiler}Him breaking down in Nero's arms got to me as well.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 19, 2014 3:17:42 GMT -5
Eh... this episode was one I had been waiting for but felt real let down by. The Jax car chase... was that a seventies throw back? The music and cinematography felt like it but it also gave it a comedy aspect when the show really didn't need a comedy relief moment.
The Jax/Juice confession really kind of exposed Hunnam I felt. His accent while always a bit dodgy but kind of part of his charm,(Tahrah) was all over the place. It felt like at times he was trying for something more American but it was just off. Like he pronounced some words with a Bostonian delivery and then off to Jersey gangster, then back to his old California via England whisper/whine/growl/yell.
As the good actors get whittled off the show, the set piece actors are failing to pick up the slack. Thank god for Dayton Callie and Jimmy Smits they may help me finish out this show.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Nov 19, 2014 3:42:28 GMT -5
Eh... this episode was one I had been waiting for but felt real let down by. The Jax car chase... was that a seventies throw back? The music and cinematography felt like it but it also gave it a comedy aspect when the show really didn't need a comedy relief moment. The Jax/Juice confession really kind of exposed Hunnam I felt. His accent while always a bit dodgy but kind of part of his charm,(Tahrah) was all over the place. It felt like at times he was trying for something more American but it was just off. Like he pronounced some words with a Bostonian delivery and then off to Jersey gangster, then back to his old California via England whisper/whine/growl/yell. As the good actors get whittled off the show, the set piece actors are failing to pick up the slack. Thank god for Dayton Callie and Jimmy Smits they may help me finish out this show. It comes out more when he's expressing anger. The beauty of the Juice/Jax confession scene was seeing the hurt in Jax's eyes. You could tell he wanted to either break down or kill Juice, however, he had to keep himself composed without completely losing it. We have two episodes left and the wait until December 2nd will be killer.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 19, 2014 4:12:13 GMT -5
The early seasons he had some very emotional parts but could usually pull off an American accent with a few noticeable odd pronounciations that could be passed off as just speech quirks. Now I can't tell if he just isn't trying anymore or if he's trying too damn hard. Like he's supposed to be a born and bred California biker, but his American accent is more often East coast then West coast if he manages to pull one off for more than two lines. Maybe part of it was before he had his biggest scene times with some pretty good actors who could cover his weaker aspects and let him be the angsty young pretty tough guy role he fills well. But when he's left with another scene dressing one dimensional actor like Theo Rossi it's just two guys really trying too hard to convey sincere emotion and while Rossi can pull himself through the scene he can't help Hunnam.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 10:57:43 GMT -5
I have enjoyed this season and don't understand the criticisms with it. If it was Jax finding out from the beginning, then blood shed with every episode then people would complain about that. The slow burn to the reveal I feel was done exceptionally well and made it that much more heartbreaking. My problem with the season thus is that, for the most part, it's just been incredibly tedious. The big reveal was the one plot point that would actually move the story along; everything beyond that just felt like extremely graphic filler. For me, there was no tension in holding off on the reveal, just stalling, reliant on characters not being able to put one and one together (Unser in particular has been incredibly frustrating about this). And Jax's whole "he's transformed into a remorseless monster" thing would carry a lot more weight if they hadn't done that exact plot point back in season 5 with Opie's death. The reason I really enjoyed the last two episodes is that things are actually happening beyond incredibly convoluted gun deals and random, pointless murders.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Nov 19, 2014 15:01:45 GMT -5
I have enjoyed this season and don't understand the criticisms with it. If it was Jax finding out from the beginning, then blood shed with every episode then people would complain about that. The slow burn to the reveal I feel was done exceptionally well and made it that much more heartbreaking. My problem with the season thus is that, for the most part, it's just been incredibly tedious. The big reveal was the one plot point that would actually move the story along; everything beyond that just felt like extremely graphic filler. For me, there was no tension in holding off on the reveal, just stalling, reliant on characters not being able to put one and one together (Unser in particular has been incredibly frustrating about this). And Jax's whole "he's transformed into a remorseless monster" thing would carry a lot more weight if they hadn't done that exact plot point back in season 5 with Opie's death. The reason I really enjoyed the last two episodes is that things are actually happening beyond incredibly convoluted gun deals and random, pointless murders. Jax was far more ruthless and remorseless this season than in Season 5 in my opinion. He flat out just didn't care this go around and was far more reckless with his decisions.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Nov 19, 2014 15:03:43 GMT -5
Someone proposed the theory on Facebook that: {Spoiler}They believe that Jax is going to kill Nero as payback for Tara. Although that would be very extreme, very Sutterish, and to the complete 100th degree it would make Jax that much more unsympathetic. I don't believe he would kill Nero, however, with Sutter you never know.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Nov 19, 2014 15:14:23 GMT -5
Someone proposed the theory on Facebook that: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}They believe that Jax is going to kill Nero as payback for Tara. Although that would be very extreme, very Sutterish, and to the complete 100th degree it would make Jax that much more unsympathetic. I don't believe he would kill Nero, however, with Sutter you never know. {Spoiler}If this is to have the "Everyone Dies" ending... I could see this. Jax kills Nero, Nero's boys kill him, Gemma can't handle it and tries to kill herself....
Personally, I'd like it to come full-circle and actually have Jax finish out this business... have him hand over the reigns of SAMCRO to Chibbs... then ride off into the sunset. But, I think that might be too happy and convenient an ending for Sutter.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Nov 19, 2014 16:45:57 GMT -5
Someone proposed the theory on Facebook that: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}They believe that Jax is going to kill Nero as payback for Tara. Although that would be very extreme, very Sutterish, and to the complete 100th degree it would make Jax that much more unsympathetic. I don't believe he would kill Nero, however, with Sutter you never know. If this is to have the "Everyone Dies" ending... I could see this. Jax kills Nero, Nero's boys kill him, Gemma can't handle it and tries to kill herself....
Personally, I'd like it to come full-circle and actually have Jax finish out this business... have him hand over the reigns of SAMCRO to Chibbs... then ride off into the sunset. But, I think that might be too happy and convenient an ending for Sutter. Another theory that someone proposed is: {Spoiler}The finale reveals an older Abel sitting on top of the Samcro roof reading Jax's journals as Jax either died of old age or was killed in some fashion. {Spoiler}I'd like for Jax to ride off into the sunset or possibly go to jail to serve out a sentence while leaving the kids with Wendy.
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