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Post by FrankGotch on Nov 24, 2014 23:16:24 GMT -5
One of the worst things about this situation is that the media has been repeating the words unarmed, and black teen like they actually mean something. The fact that the person who was shot was a black teen, or unarmed is really irrelevant to the case. If the jury saw evidence that Brown attacked fist, or tried to take the officers gun then they really have no choice but to come to the conclusion that they have. You can't bring a man up on charges simply, because you feel that minorities get the short end of the stick in the American justice system. Anyone who has seen the tape from the robbery at the store knows that Brown wasn't exactly handing out hugs and lolly pops the day he died. I can't say the jury made the right decision because all of the facts aren't in yet, but I will say that many times people hook their horses to the wrong carts in situations like this. Our justice system has many problems, as do our police. However the Micheal Brown case is way too muddled for people to be drawing lines, and taking sides the way they have.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:17:50 GMT -5
Black teens should start carrying guns to protect themselves from the cops and neighborhood watchmen.
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Post by ibdude on Nov 24, 2014 23:18:36 GMT -5
These assholes on CNN are loving this shit. They're loving being right in the middle of it so they can go back to their studios and talk about how exciting it was. I love after going out of his way to point out he smelled Marijuana & how "Unruly & Moblike" the crowd was he got caught in the tear gas. Yeah that marijuana comment. I have no idea what that had to do with anything.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 24, 2014 23:18:15 GMT -5
Violence won't solve anything. All it does it make black people easier to portray as being violent, which enhances the image of the police as being necessarily aggressive to deal with them. Riots also drive away investment, which means fewer jobs and more economic depression. During the LA riots, supposed anger against brutality against a black man, ended up killing more black people than any other race, and causing damage to predominantly black communities in the city.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:19:34 GMT -5
Black teens should start carrying guns to protect themselves from the cops and neighborhood watchmen. Last time that happened, the NRA actually pushed for more gun control laws.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 24, 2014 23:20:00 GMT -5
Black teens should start carrying guns to protect themselves from the cops and neighborhood watchmen. If they did that, you'd see gun control suddenly become a more widespread consensus.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:23:50 GMT -5
Instead of community's coming together to mourn in mutual respect that a young life was taken.(Doesnt matter if you believe if the officer was guilty or not no one likes to see a young life ended) Nope all the focus on the riots, SMH.
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Post by FrankGotch on Nov 24, 2014 23:24:17 GMT -5
Black teens should start carrying guns to protect themselves from the cops and neighborhood watchmen. Go to LA, Chicago, or Gary Indiana. Trust me there is no shortage of black teens with guns.
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Post by ibdude on Nov 24, 2014 23:25:06 GMT -5
Instead of community's coming together to mourn in mutual respect that a young life was taken.(Doesnt matter if you believe if the officer was guilty or not no one likes to see a young life ended) Nope all the focus on the riots, SMH. This is exactly what the media wanted.
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Post by Zabel Zarock on Nov 24, 2014 23:25:39 GMT -5
One of the worst things about this situation is that the media has been repeating the words unarmed, and black teen like they actually mean something. The fact that the person who was shot was a black teen, or unarmed is really irrelevant to the case. If the jury saw evidence that Brown attacked fist, or tried to take the officers gun then they really have no choice but to come to the conclusion that they have. You can't bring a man up on charges simply, because you feel that minorities get the short end of the stick in the American justice system. Anyone who has seen the tape from the robbery at the store knows that Brown wasn't exactly handing out hugs and lolly pops the day he died. I can't say the jury made the right decision because all of the facts aren't in yet, but I will say that many times people hook their horses to the wrong carts in situations like this. Our justice system has many problems, as do our police. However the Micheal Brown case is way too muddled for people to be drawing lines, and taking sides the way they have. Did you really pull the "It shouldn't be about race" card? Come the f*** on, IT'S ABOUT RACE FOR A REASON, A f***ING REASON. Did you happen to miss how many cases of Cop on Black violence happened in the past two months?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:26:00 GMT -5
One of the worst things about this situation is that the media has been repeating the words unarmed, and black teen like they actually mean something. The fact that the person who was shot was a black teen, or unarmed is really irrelevant to the case. If the jury saw evidence that Brown attacked fist, or tried to take the officers gun then they really have no choice but to come to the conclusion that they have. You can't bring a man up on charges simply, because you feel that minorities get the short end of the stick in the American justice system. Anyone who has seen the tape from the robbery at the store knows that Brown wasn't exactly handing out hugs and lolly pops the day he died. I can't say the jury made the right decision because all of the facts aren't in yet, but I will say that many times people hook their horses to the wrong carts in situations like this. Our justice system has many problems, as do our police. However the Micheal Brown case is way too muddled for people to be drawing lines, and taking sides the way they have. Yeah, I understand why so much judgment is being passed on this decision, but it'd be better to wait before more information becomes available. The only people who have seen all of that are the people behind closed doors, who made this decision. If they don't think that there was ample evidence to bring this to trial, and we don't have that information, why jump to conclusions?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:26:49 GMT -5
Instead of community's coming together to mourn in mutual respect that a young life was taken.(Doesnt matter if you believe if the officer was guilty or not no one likes to see a young life ended) Nope all the focus on the riots, SMH. This is exactly what the media wanted. Yep and, that's the problem violence sells but, human kindness, love, ect is an after thought to the news stations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:26:53 GMT -5
Violence won't solve anything. All it does it make black people easier to portray as being violent, which enhances the image of the police as being necessarily aggressive to deal with them. Riots also drive away investment, which means fewer jobs and more economic depression. During the LA riots, supposed anger against brutality against a black man, ended up killing more black people than any other race, and causing damage to predominantly black communities in the city. We're portrayed as being violent and deserving of violence being acted upon us regardless of what we do, so here's the deal. How about we not start on this path? The only place this path is going to lead is to people getting all up in their feelings and a thread lock.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Nov 24, 2014 23:29:55 GMT -5
I'll put this out there right now: No progress and no actual discussion will ever happen on this case or cases similar like that, nor how to actually avoid future cases like this from happening. Why? Because the media will be way too concerned about rioting and other non-issues involved with this. That will take precedence over constructive discussion because that's not sexy. Body cameras on police? Yawn! Militarized police? Pffft. A Little Ceaser's is on fire? THAT'S the real story.
A big part of that is our fault collectively. We don't like having real discussions. It's too inconvenient.
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Post by Renslayer on Nov 24, 2014 23:31:28 GMT -5
I'm just tired.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:32:11 GMT -5
Protesters are live streaming the stuff that's happening on the ground, so you're actually better off not watching any of the shit going on in the news.
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Post by FrankGotch on Nov 24, 2014 23:35:34 GMT -5
One of the worst things about this situation is that the media has been repeating the words unarmed, and black teen like they actually mean something. The fact that the person who was shot was a black teen, or unarmed is really irrelevant to the case. If the jury saw evidence that Brown attacked fist, or tried to take the officers gun then they really have no choice but to come to the conclusion that they have. You can't bring a man up on charges simply, because you feel that minorities get the short end of the stick in the American justice system. Anyone who has seen the tape from the robbery at the store knows that Brown wasn't exactly handing out hugs and lolly pops the day he died. I can't say the jury made the right decision because all of the facts aren't in yet, but I will say that many times people hook their horses to the wrong carts in situations like this. Our justice system has many problems, as do our police. However the Micheal Brown case is way too muddled for people to be drawing lines, and taking sides the way they have. Did you really pull the "It shouldn't be about race" card? Come the f*** on, IT'S ABOUT RACE FOR A REASON, A f***ING REASON. Did you happen to miss how many cases of Cop on Black violence happened in the past two months? No I didn't pull the "it shouldn't be about race card." I pulled the "media jumps the gun on a hot story, and incites riots without all the facts card." Like I said before there is plenty wrong with the justice system, and our police. However the public should focus on cases where real injustice has likely happened rather than convicting police of wrongful shooting before the facts of the case have even come out.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Nov 24, 2014 23:37:24 GMT -5
Well I no longer have a Walgreens.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:37:53 GMT -5
One of the worst things about this situation is that the media has been repeating the words unarmed, and black teen like they actually mean something. The fact that the person who was shot was a black teen, or unarmed is really irrelevant to the case. If the jury saw evidence that Brown attacked fist, or tried to take the officers gun then they really have no choice but to come to the conclusion that they have. You can't bring a man up on charges simply, because you feel that minorities get the short end of the stick in the American justice system. Anyone who has seen the tape from the robbery at the store knows that Brown wasn't exactly handing out hugs and lolly pops the day he died. I can't say the jury made the right decision because all of the facts aren't in yet, but I will say that many times people hook their horses to the wrong carts in situations like this. Our justice system has many problems, as do our police. However the Micheal Brown case is way too muddled for people to be drawing lines, and taking sides the way they have. Did you really pull the "It shouldn't be about race" card? Come the f*** on, IT'S ABOUT RACE FOR A REASON, A f***ING REASON. Did you happen to miss how many cases of Cop on Black violence happened in the past two months? I don't think that's at all what he said. He said that passing judgment on this without any relevant information isn't a good idea. DO blacks get the short end of the stick? I'd say that they do. I'd say it's glaringly obvious. I come from a majority-black city and it's pretty hard not to notice. I wish people got this worked up about education, healthcare or family support for black communities. This however, this is way too contentious and doesn't go anywhere. If there wasn't adequate evidence to bring Wilson to trial, then what is the point if it did? He'd just get acquitted anyway. If there WAS ample evidence, then there's a good reason to get mad. Until then, though, acting on suspicions alone is meaningless and tantamount to a witch hunt.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Nov 24, 2014 23:38:20 GMT -5
I agree with the decision. Mob mentality shouldn't sway from actual evidence
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