Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 6, 2014 12:07:40 GMT -5
Yeah they still had deals after Savage was gone, which is something that always lead credence to this rumor to be false as well, but I gotta wonder if they were perhaps less lucrative or maybe Savage wasn't the one who put the original deal together, and Vince felt betrayed because he handed it to Savage. Just don't know. I think they want to keep no one bigger then the WWE so if they can spread the endorsements or guest appearances (like the Orton tattoo one) around it keeps the other wrestlers name a bit stronger but not making Punk's name too strong. The problem was Punk found the advertiser and thought it was his but the WWE got it and made it theirs using it as they see fit. At a certain point he should have just shut up and done it without asking. I also love how Punk bought up the MMA endorsements the week where the UFC basically does away with it when signing with Reebok As much as I don't like the guy, even I understand how he would lose his shit over this. After having it repeatedly drilled into you that this is a "There Can Be Only One" system, and being a bit of an anti-social jerk who doesn't really like other people anyway, you decide "OK, f*** it, I'm only doing things that benefit me and me alone," and work out your own advertising deals. And then you're told, "Hey, we want to spread these things around, and let other people on the roster be involved with these." Right, Wrong, or whatever, I definitely understand how that would piss anybody off.
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mcstoklasa
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Post by mcstoklasa on Dec 6, 2014 13:02:28 GMT -5
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Post by CM Dazz on Dec 6, 2014 16:17:20 GMT -5
Yeah they still had deals after Savage was gone, which is something that always lead credence to this rumor to be false as well, but I gotta wonder if they were perhaps less lucrative or maybe Savage wasn't the one who put the original deal together, and Vince felt betrayed because he handed it to Savage. Just don't know. I think they want to keep no one bigger then the WWE so if they can spread the endorsements or guest appearances (like the Orton tattoo one) around it keeps the other wrestlers name a bit stronger but not making Punk's name too strong. The problem was Punk found the advertiser and thought it was his but the WWE got it and made it theirs using it as they see fit. At a certain point he should have just shut up and done it without asking. I also love how Punk bought up the MMA endorsements the week where the UFC basically does away with it when signing with Reebok Like he, & many others besides him have said, it's sometimes easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 6, 2014 16:41:19 GMT -5
I know it won't ever happen, but I wish Zack Ryder came back with a Z-Pak gimmick. Like someone would be injured backstage about to miss an important match and he'd reenact that thing Mr. Miyagi did in the first Karate Kid movie while screaming "Z-PAK!" then sending them off to wrestle. Infected would work better. Like you have a heel that's giving everyone strep throat on purpose, and then TOM ZENK THE ZMAN comes and makes them better. On-call manager Tom Zenk, would be my choice for the Z Pak Z Man gimmick. You get sick, Tom Zenk is prescribed as your manager for two weeks, and you must keep him for the full two weeks no matter how soon you get better. Thank you for being the first person I've seen on here to mention infection in conjunction with Z-Paks. I was starting to wonder how many people actually knew what a Z-Pak was around here.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Dec 6, 2014 18:39:51 GMT -5
Infected would work better. Like you have a heel that's giving everyone strep throat on purpose, and then TOM ZENK THE ZMAN comes and makes them better. On-call manager Tom Zenk, would be my choice for the Z Pak Z Man gimmick. You get sick, Tom Zenk is prescribed as your manager for two weeks, and you must keep him for the full two weeks no matter how soon you get better. Thank you for being the first person I've seen on here to mention infection in conjunction with Z-Paks. I was starting to wonder how many people actually knew what a Z-Pak was around here. I have taken quite a few in my day. Those things last five days but wreck hell on your system for two weeks.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Dec 6, 2014 19:27:36 GMT -5
The sponsorship thing is absolutely insane. Just, completely and utterly unthinkable if you're outside of the la-la land that is the WWE Universe.
Back in the 90's, you saw Michael Jordan's face everywhere. From shoes to breakfast cereals to frickin' underwear. Do you know WHY you saw him everywhere? Because companies with sponsorship dollars to spend wanted the most popular guy to shill for them. You didn't see the Bull say, "Hey, Nike, you don't want Michael Jordan. Here's John Paxton. Hey, Wheaties, Jordan's not your guy. How about Scottie Pippen?
You don't want Punk. Not really. So here's Big Show (over the hill giant), Rey Mysterio (who can barely walk), and Eve (who is, like, the 4th most popular Diva).
You don't want Punk for your video game. You want Sheamus.
This is the kind of thing that anybody who ISN'T a simpering yes-man would have put the boots to in about five seconds. Don't send your B and C list guys to people who want to sponsor you. Slim Jim doesn't want to help your second stringers get over. They don't want to *pay* for that privilege. They want to use YOUR guy to sell THEIR product. That's how these things work in *reality*.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 6, 2014 21:17:00 GMT -5
For those of you that have not watched either of the interviews, here's a summary. Punk to WWE: "I don't f*** with you. I got a million trillion things I'd rather f***ing do."
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riseofsetian1981
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 6, 2014 21:38:35 GMT -5
The thing is Punk could've been THE GUY if they weren't so focused on Cena and didn't kill his momentum by feeding him to Hunter. Guys like Ziggler, Bryan, and even Ryback could've been something special if they were booked to their strengths.
Continually riding the Cena train will ultimately begin to backfire and then they'll be forced to make a change.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Dec 6, 2014 22:04:16 GMT -5
The thing is Punk could've been THE GUY if they weren't so focused on Cena and didn't kill his momentum by feeding him to Hunter. Guys like Ziggler, Bryan, and even Ryback could've been something special if they were booked to their strengths. Continually riding the Cena train will ultimately begin to backfire and then they'll be forced to make a change. I *still* don't get that. It's been years and it still makes negative sense to me. Even in comparison to the usual craziness of the WWE. Punk comes back (way sooner than he should have/wanted to). He's the hottest thing in the company, full stop. His story is being picked up by mainstream news outlets. He's beaten John Cena. He's beaten John Cena AGAIN in a unification match. Sponsors are lining up to throw money at him. The press wants to interview him. He's done in a few weeks what John Cena couldn't do in the better part of a decade. And then... Nash jackknifes him for no reason. Literally NO reason. No match came out of it. John Cena takes issue with how Punk lost the title and sets out to avenge him (WHAT?!?!) HHH does everything possible to bury Punk on the mic. Calls him a phony. Just relentlessly rips him (while still trying to be the face). To his *infinite* credit, Punk didn't let that happen. But in the end, HHH beats Punk (due to *reasons*) and goes on to beat Nash in that ladder match. Punk, later, is overcome with joy about being able to wear HHH's blazer. Vince Russo, on his WORST day, could not have booked that any worse. It was like they subjected the hottest thing wrestling has seen in a decade to the Ice Bucket Challenge. I doubt we'll ever get a straight answer, but I REALLY want to know...WHAT WAS THE POINT?!?!
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Post by stealthamo on Dec 6, 2014 22:38:00 GMT -5
For those of you that have not watched either of the interviews, here's a summary. Punk to WWE: "I don't f*** with you. I got a million trillion things I'd rather f***ing do."
Heard you got a company man, I see you tweetin' a pic Then you post it up, thinkin' that its makin' me sick I see you calling, I be makin' it quick Imma answer that shit like: "I don't f*** with you" Vince I got no feelings to go I swear I had it up to here, I got no ceilings to go I mean for real, f*** how you feel f*** your two cents if it ain't goin' towards the bill, yeah And everyday I wake up celebratin' shit, why? Cause I just dodged a bullet from a crazy Vince I stuck to my guns, that's what made me rich That's what put me on, that's what got me here That's what made me this And everything that I do is my first name These new guys chase bread, aw damn, they got a bird brain Ain't nothin' but trill in me, aw man, silly me I just bought a crib, three stories, that bitch a trilogy And you know I'm makin' shirts that's f***in' up Pro Wrestling Tees I got AJ that text me, and I'm likin' what I see And then another one text, then your ass next And I'm gonna text your ass back like I don't f*** with you
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Post by paywindah on Dec 6, 2014 22:41:38 GMT -5
Punk signing with UFC is the biggest FU he could give to Vince.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 23:01:37 GMT -5
Incoming Vince McMahon heart attack.
Punk's UFC signing is hilarious. Good luck to him. Man the office must be furious.
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Post by The Tee Why on Dec 6, 2014 23:12:13 GMT -5
Incoming Vince McMahon heart attack. Punk's UFC signing is hilarious. Good luck to him. Man the office must be furious. In other news, Triple H has a diamond strength boner at the thought of seeing Punker get his butt kicked legitimately.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Dec 6, 2014 23:18:09 GMT -5
Good luck to the man. Everybody likes to say that WWE guys will fall on their faces without the company, but Rocky, Lesnar, Batista, Austin, Foley, del Rio, Jericho, Edge, and even Sin Cara are all doing just fine.
Dude's broken the internet three times in two weeks.
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Post by The Tee Why on Dec 6, 2014 23:19:50 GMT -5
Good luck to the man. Everybody likes to say that WWE guys will fall on their faces without the company, but Rocky, Lesnar, Batista, Austin, Foley, del Rio, Jericho, Edge, and even Sin Cara are all doing just fine. Dude's broken the internet three times in two weeks. Aye as much as I hate the term broke the internet, a lot. You're right, I like to see wrestlers go on to be successful in other things solely to shut people up about them being hacks.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Dec 6, 2014 23:20:01 GMT -5
CM Punk to UFC is the biggest LOL in history. That moron won't last 2 seconds in an octagon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 23:26:21 GMT -5
Wait....Punk is going to fight in the Octagon!? Unless Dana books him against those scrubs that Lashley is in there with he's going to get killed.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Dec 6, 2014 23:26:33 GMT -5
CM Punk to UFC is the biggest LOL in history. That moron won't last 2 seconds in an octagon. Look. Here's one now.
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kaleb
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Post by kaleb on Dec 6, 2014 23:33:26 GMT -5
Imagine if Punks first match was during Wrestlemania weekend?
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Post by Juice on Dec 6, 2014 23:39:24 GMT -5
Why are people jumping to some conclusion that Punk is signing with UFC?
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