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Post by adamclark52 on Jan 10, 2015 1:15:43 GMT -5
Have the buyrates for Bound For Glory been released yet? TNA buyrates typically never are because being a private company they don't have to divulge it. Probably for the best.
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Post by J Lee O'Brien on Jan 10, 2015 1:50:43 GMT -5
Ouch.
After reading the upcoming spoilers, I'm starting to wonder how soon until Destination America regrets dropping that quarter in after Spike left the cabinet.
I don't even actively hate Impact either...
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 10, 2015 4:35:22 GMT -5
TNA DID YOU KNOW...
Impact Wrestling was the #1 show on Destination America.
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You know looking at at that rating... we are literally the only people watching Impact Wrestling now. Not a great opening show for us, TNA.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 10, 2015 4:56:25 GMT -5
So...that's the new kind of level, then. Does put it in perspective from the 1.1, 1.5 million days.
Even with the reduced number of homes available on DA from Spike, it was still a clear larger drop than that. So that's not great. I guess it's a little misleading though since they won't be staying on Wednesday. What they get on the Fridays going forward will be a better indicator.
On DA's side, they'll probably be happy as it smokes all their other ratings. Maybe not wildly happy as they might've wanted a bigger slice, but still happy. For TNA? They were barely scraping by on what Spike gave them. I'd bet good money that they're operating on a loss with the DA tv deal but with hopes of building a larger rating and presence. This is just one show so they won't be throwing themselves off a building, but it's far from the springboard they wanted to behind with.
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Post by jimmyjames on Jan 10, 2015 5:33:31 GMT -5
Seeing how many people on here didn't even know they had Destination America until recently, I'm not as shocked as I would have been a couple of weeks ago. They're never going to get what they received on Spike, but I would like to see how they do over the next couple of months after settling into their new home, and to see if the other channels in the Discovery Communications family promote Impact, like Destination America was promoting other shows on Impact.
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Post by wrestlingrecap on Jan 10, 2015 7:40:53 GMT -5
As long as they maintain the highest rating for the network, which doesn't seem hard to do, and perhaps air the programming on the internet, they should be fine. I don't think so. It's not just about being better than everything DA has, it's about Discovery feeling they're getting their money's worth. For example: I don't think they'll pay 100% more for a program that only has 10% more viewers, whether those 10% make it the most watched show on their channel or not. Discovery has shown over the past year that they can be VERY stingy with money when they want to be. Just ask Mythbusters. Really? I wasn't a viewer of Mythbusters... but you would think that you'd keep your high rating getters. Then again, WCW was getting high ratings for TNT/TBS.. even towards the end, and they simply didn't want wrestling. So, I suppose that makes sense. I just hope they don't go under. We need as many alternatives as we can get. Even if it's not great. We need something.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 10, 2015 8:31:45 GMT -5
Ouch. After reading the upcoming spoilers, I'm starting to wonder how soon until Destination America regrets dropping that quarter in after Spike left the cabinet. I don't even actively hate Impact either... The funny thing is that even with the terrible viewership number, it's probably still way more viewers than Destination America usually gets (or dare I say, has ever gotten) so I doubt that they're too worried.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 10, 2015 9:22:16 GMT -5
When you leave a mid tier cable network and go to the slums, of course the numbers are going to drop. And it's only going to get worst from here. The days of getting a million or more viewers are over.
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Post by ICBM on Jan 10, 2015 9:53:47 GMT -5
Not surprising. The network simply isn't in enough markets. The fact that it was 100k above networks highest rated show is actually a good thing and indicates the following TNA has. People will find it. The network is very active in getting the advertising out there. More so than Spike was. There have been print ads, viral spots on social media, TV spots during other programming on discovery networks and outside it. In short they have put a good bit into it and it looks like they'll keep it going. Honestly I thought they'd do a much bigger number BC I thought they were in more markets, but I'm not worried. It will grow. Of course by this margin the old stand by 1.1 would be a victory on par with a 4.2 Raw quarter hr by comparison
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Post by Lancers on Jan 10, 2015 10:11:15 GMT -5
After 11 years, this gif. isn't applicable anymore. Truly the end of an era. This isn't hyperbole when I say this, but this is the greatest TNA gif related I've ever seen.
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Post by Yamashita Enforcement Division on Jan 10, 2015 10:24:42 GMT -5
Not surprising. The network simply isn't in enough markets. The fact that it was 100k above networks highest rated show is actually a good thing and indicates the following TNA has. People will find it. Counting first run and replay, 100k over the next highest show is the ceiling. The almost live debut on a better TV night with a good deal of advertising lead in is going to be the tops. If they keep going for cheap ratings pops and burning through all of their content, they might manage to hold steady at 300k, but until we see the Friday debut we won't know how bad things are going to get. The network is very active in getting the advertising out there. More so than Spike was. That is completely untrue. Honestly I thought they'd do a much bigger number BC I thought they were in more markets, but I'm not worried. That isn't how cable works. In cable, especially the premium dead zone TNA has hitched their wheel to, markets matter a lot less because for how big each of the top 17-20 markets are, those markets have a half-dozen cable systems, each with their own agreement. Being in the gutter like this negates a lot of the geographic advantages programming has.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 10:38:26 GMT -5
LOL @ a Bigfoot show almost getting the same amount of viewers. Someone get Rob Terry a Bigfoot suit, sugah.
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Post by WWEedy on Jan 10, 2015 11:06:55 GMT -5
So they've smashed the usual ratings they get on Destination America, which means they have managed to capture the full audience who usually watches the channel plus brought over at least 13k extra viewers from Spike?
I can't see why that's not good news. The fact that anyone thought they'd bring over a proportional amount of viewers from Spike would have to be loopy because from what I can tell it's not as if Spike was pushing for people to go hop over to Destination America and watch Impact Wrestling and while DA were pushing the show on their channels that hardly could have been seen as a big advertising ploy that would draw in the viewership numbers.
It's not a given that the numbers will substantially drop for Friday, though being a pre-tape there will be a slight drop I'm sure, pretending that it's all doom and gloom for them can't be right, can it? There's the Friday Night Smackdown watchers who will have to find something else and if some of the 263k viewers were DA viewers and not Impact Wrestling viewers, there still could be some late to the party from Spike who will want to watch next week because they liked what they heard about the show.
Or I could be completely wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 11:23:24 GMT -5
LOL @ a Bigfoot show almost getting the same amount of viewers. Someone get Rob Terry a Bigfoot suit, sugah. And bear in mind that this is the "live" episode. From here on out, Impact is gonna take six weeks of programming in three days, then take a month off and do it all over again. I know that spoilers can hurt the viewing product, but not by any reasonable amount. And, if anything, it's sort of a warning as to how stupid the episodes are gonna get. The "Jeff Hardy damn near murders himself in front of 500 people" stunt and Havok being squashed are prime examples. That being said, when people see the rest of these tapings air on television and it turns out that TNA is booking the exact same way they have done in 2014, in spite of the promise of a hard reboot, it's really hard to get behind the product. And, on a smaller network, it's even harder to get a consistent audience. It's gonna get so depressing that Dixie will proudly tout 250,000 viewers as a milestone.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 10, 2015 11:43:47 GMT -5
So they've smashed the usual ratings they get on Destination America, which means they have managed to capture the full audience who usually watches the channel plus brought over at least 13k extra viewers from Spike? I can't see why that's not good news. The fact that anyone thought they'd bring over a proportional amount of viewers from Spike would have to be loopy because from what I can tell it's not as if Spike was pushing for people to go hop over to Destination America and watch Impact Wrestling and while DA were pushing the show on their channels that hardly could have been seen as a big advertising ploy that would draw in the viewership numbers. It's not a given that the numbers will substantially drop for Friday, though being a pre-tape there will be a slight drop I'm sure, pretending that it's all doom and gloom for them can't be right, can it? There's the Friday Night Smackdown watchers who will have to find something else and if some of the 263k viewers were DA viewers and not Impact Wrestling viewers, there still could be some late to the party from Spike who will want to watch next week because they liked what they heard about the show. Or I could be completely wrong? Don't forget New Japan's show on AXS at roughly the same time. I think if you're hardcore enough to follow TNA then you know about NJPW.
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Post by americanoutlaw911 on Jan 10, 2015 11:54:39 GMT -5
so things don't go so good
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Post by Yamashita Enforcement Division on Jan 10, 2015 12:34:23 GMT -5
So they've smashed the usual ratings they get on Destination America, which means they have managed to capture the full audience who usually watches the channel plus brought over at least 13k extra viewers from Spike? First, if pulling in 13k viewers is TNA's drawing power on TV, TNA is way pasted just being f***ed. But that is besides the point, you can't say that pulling 260+k captured the DA audience and then some, because without the demo splits, we don't know if that is true. It is just as likely that they grabbed none of the normal DA audience for those hours and gained 260+k of their own people. Both are equally valid and equally stupid ways to look at an audience. Second, historically, TNA has shown no ability to grow an audience. The reason the 1.1 gif is posted and is so funny is because TNA had the central core of 1+ million wrestling fans that would watch every week through thin and thinner. This means that regardless of what they do, TNA will not pull in more viewers through its television. I can't see why that's not good news. The fact that anyone thought they'd bring over a proportional amount of viewers from Spike would have to be loopy because from what I can tell it's not as if Spike was pushing for people to go hop over to Destination America and watch Impact Wrestling and while DA were pushing the show on their channels that hardly could have been seen as a big advertising ploy that would draw in the viewership numbers. Yes, they didn't use the time Spike gave them to promote their new network. It's not like Spike gives a shit if TNA does well on a competitor, it is up to TNA and the new network to draw viewers to it. As for why anyone would think they would bring over viewers, that is what a successful TV show switching networks does. Look at Smackdown's constant movement and steady ratings, WWE uses their program to keep people watching from week to week. The debut episode of any program, especially one with as little growth power as TNA has had is going to be the first big benchmark, especially on a different, better TV day with weeks promotion. It's not a given that the numbers will substantially drop for Friday, though being a pre-tape there will be a slight drop I'm sure, pretending that it's all doom and gloom for them can't be right, can it? There's the Friday Night Smackdown watchers who will have to find something else and if some of the 263k viewers were DA viewers and not Impact Wrestling viewers, there still could be some late to the party from Spike who will want to watch next week because they liked what they heard about the show. Or I could be completely wrong? Here's the thing, where are these phantom watchers that are going to be late to the party going to hear about where TNA is now? If they hadn't heard during the build up to the debut, they aren't going to be caught now that the show is debuted and the promotion is going to slow down and steady to acceptable cross-promotion. Those Smackdown watchers were kept by the WWE, and are going to be doing something different on Fridays because Smackdown is no longer a chore they have ingrained in their heads. Fridays are going to be lower because TNA does block tapings, thus stuff that doesn't work is going to continue (Not that TNA would stop anyway), Fridays are bad TV days that you have to fight tooth and nail to get an audience on. Destination America does not have penetration to make up for those factors and the debut episode (a big milestone and a solid base for a show) did a quarter million on first run, and did half as many on the replay (being treated by WON as a West Coat-feed for ratings purposes).
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 10, 2015 12:37:06 GMT -5
The entire roster must be eating nothing but struggle flakes at this point. It's like frosted flakes but with 100% more struggle. Nah, the way TNA pays, they're just the generic Struggle Flakes in the white box.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 10, 2015 14:20:31 GMT -5
The entire roster must be eating nothing but struggle flakes at this point. It's like frosted flakes but with 100% more struggle. Nah, the way TNA pays, they're just the generic Struggle Flakes in the white box. Box nothing, it's those bag o' flakes at the bottom of the shelf.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 14:25:16 GMT -5
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