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Post by crashmatsbazz on Mar 12, 2015 6:33:35 GMT -5
Tonya Harding's life was over pretty much after March of 94.
did Paul Reubens career ever really get back on track?
and I doubt we will ever see Rock N’ Roll’ Buck Zumhofe in a wrestling ring ever again.
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Post by agent817 on Mar 12, 2015 6:56:34 GMT -5
Tonya Harding's life was over pretty much after March of 94. did Paul Reubens career ever really get back on track? and I doubt we will ever see Rock N’ Roll’ Buck Zumhofe in a wrestling ring ever again. After the Lilehammer incident in 1994, I doubt Harding was able to skate anymore, and I am sure that she was banned from even taking part in Nagano in 1998. Didn't she also have a sex tape? As for Paul Reubens, I remember he still got acting roles. I remember he was in "Dunston Checks In" and "Mystery Men," I think the latter was probably where he got more screen-time. He had other ones, but they were bit roles. However, he couldn't return to his status of Pee-Wee Herman again.
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Post by willywonka666 on Mar 12, 2015 7:55:23 GMT -5
Tonya Harding's life was over pretty much after March of 94. did Paul Reubens career ever really get back on track? and I doubt we will ever see Rock N’ Roll’ Buck Zumhofe in a wrestling ring ever again. After the Lilehammer incident in 1994, I doubt Harding was able to skate anymore, and I am sure that she was banned from even taking part in Nagano in 1998. Didn't she also have a sex tape? As for Paul Reubens, I remember he still got acting roles. I remember he was in "Dunston Checks In" and "Mystery Men," I think the latter was probably where he got more screen-time. He had other ones, but they were bit roles. However, he couldn't return to his status of Pee-Wee Herman again. Well he had a big hit on Broadway when he returned as Pee Wee and he has the new movie that's through Netflix, but still I think he recovered quite well, and let's face it, as I mentioned before, with a lot of celebs, the scandal probably didn't really affect where they are today in some instances, as much as just where they wind up due to the passage of time in general. Aerosmith didn't have any major scandals aside from drugs and certainly not any since their late 80s comeback, but they're not ever going to be at the level they were at in the early 90s again, due to aging, and passing time.
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Mar 12, 2015 8:09:15 GMT -5
also, how come no one ever mentions Jimmy Page was dating a 14 year old girl whilst he was in Led Zep?
also Pete Townsend. just researching a book indeed!! tisk tisk
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Mar 12, 2015 8:11:23 GMT -5
Tonya Harding's life was over pretty much after March of 94. did Paul Reubens career ever really get back on track? and I doubt we will ever see Rock N’ Roll’ Buck Zumhofe in a wrestling ring ever again. After the Lilehammer incident in 1994, I doubt Harding was able to skate anymore, and I am sure that she was banned from even taking part in Nagano in 1998. Didn't she also have a sex tape? As for Paul Reubens, I remember he still got acting roles. I remember he was in "Dunston Checks In" and "Mystery Men," I think the latter was probably where he got more screen-time. He had other ones, but they were bit roles. However, he couldn't return to his status of Pee-Wee Herman again. She was banned from skating in competitions and wasn't allowed/invited on any subsequent ice tours and ice skating shows that were now lucrative due to the popularity of the sport due to the whole "Attack"
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Post by Crimson on Mar 12, 2015 10:14:16 GMT -5
Roman Polanski is still making movies, with A-list stars, and many of them signed a petition supporting him. It's amazing, considering that he's a child rapist who fled punishment for his crime. Honestly, I find Hollywood's defense of him to be one of signs of how phony and political they can be.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 12, 2015 10:35:31 GMT -5
Frank Miller went from being "The Guy That Made TDKR & Sin City" to "That Old Loon That Lost His Mind After 9/11" pretty quickly. This... even though a lot of the things people usually bring up against him are present in the works that people liked. Maybe not as prominent as his later work, but they were there... Then again I never liked the Dark Knight Returns that much, while Batman was generally right a lot of other people act WAY out of character in it.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 12, 2015 12:55:52 GMT -5
Frank Miller went from being "The Guy That Made TDKR & Sin City" to "That Old Loon That Lost His Mind After 9/11" pretty quickly. This... even though a lot of the things people usually bring up against him are present in the works that people liked. Maybe not as prominent as his later work, but they were there... Then again I never liked the Dark Knight Returns that much, while Batman was generally right a lot of other people act WAY out of character in it. Yeah, Miller's Superman in DKR totally misses the point of the character. "Truth, justice and the American way" doesn't automatically translate into "government attack dog".
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Post by Welfare Willis on Mar 12, 2015 13:21:07 GMT -5
Tonya Harding's life was over pretty much after March of 94. did Paul Reubens career ever really get back on track? and I doubt we will ever see Rock N’ Roll’ Buck Zumhofe in a wrestling ring ever again. After the Lilehammer incident in 1994, I doubt Harding was able to skate anymore, and I am sure that she was banned from even taking part in Nagano in 1998. Didn't she also have a sex tape? As for Paul Reubens, I remember he still got acting roles. I remember he was in "Dunston Checks In" and "Mystery Men," I think the latter was probably where he got more screen-time. He had other ones, but they were bit roles. However, he couldn't return to his status of Pee-Wee Herman again. In regards to Reubens he did have a rough couple of years after the fapping incident, but he had a highly praised role on "Murphy Brown" (To give you some idea how far back this incident was) then roles as Agent 817 said. I recall seeing him in Reno 911 and popping up in other things. A couple years back he made a triumphant return as pee wee in a return to the characters roots (more adult orientated) on stage. Recently it was announced Judd Apatow will be producing another Pee Wee movie with Netflix distributing the film. You know to give you a sign of the times consider the fapping incident of Paul and the more recent incident with Fred Willard. Just goes to show how times have changed. Of course, Fred isn't on a children's show though.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 12, 2015 15:21:34 GMT -5
Max Clifford
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Post by King Devitt on Mar 12, 2015 21:19:13 GMT -5
Roman Polanski is still making movies, with A-list stars, and many of them signed a petition supporting him. It's amazing, considering that he's a child rapist who fled punishment for his crime. Same for Victor Salva. The guy directed one of my favorite horror movies Clownhouse and molested the 12 year old star - making him stay after the filming was done for the day and then filmed the encounters. The boy told, he got arrested. Jail time. Came back and made Powder, and later the Jeepers Creepers franchise. How he's still making movies, in particular movies (like Jeepers Creepers 2 with a TON of young guys) with a young cast is beyond me.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Mar 12, 2015 21:24:47 GMT -5
Yeah, after finding out what Victor Salva did I avoid his shit like the plague
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Post by King Devitt on Mar 12, 2015 22:58:58 GMT -5
Yeah, after finding out what Victor Salva did I avoid his shit like the plague I literally found out about two months ago. Me and a horror movie friend were talking and I was mentioning how I wanted to get Clownhouse on DVD and he's like "you know about the director right???" Then I felt really weird for recommending Clownhouse to people for so many years. I'm still baffled he was not only allowed to direct again, but given movies that were a big deal. I just can't wrap my mind around it why he's not still in jail or working on a farm somewhere or been stabbed to death.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Mar 13, 2015 1:57:59 GMT -5
WARNING! ALERT! NOTICE! I DO NOT SUPPORT, CONDONE, OR EVEN DARE TO FATHOM POLANSKI'S ACTIONS. That is a overly simplified view of what happened with that whole thing. But then whatever I might have something resembling pity for a man, considering the murder of his pregnant wife, and the subsequent three ring circus of a trial, is wiped away because eventually did it AGAIN in France. I do encourage people to watch the documentary on that trial, just so you can understand the the legal system and celebrity has been messed up far longer than a good portion of us has been alive. If you take away all the bad stuff he did with that girl, I've still got a story that shows Polanski is a shithead. An old newspaper i used to work for brought the company lawyer in for a routine "don't do this" libel seminar. One time, Polanski sued one of our magazines (or a magazine his firm was representing at the time) but Polanski refused to show up in court because he didn't want to answer the charges. The trial was held in a nation that had an extradition treaty with the USA and he was too afraid. The judge allowed him to testify from abroad. The magazine wanted to be able to cross-examine but Polanski was given a waiver to not have to appear in court. And again, there is over simplification of this issue, I've looked at this situation a lot, because it is a fascinating story. Again I don't defend what happened, but in a lot of ways Polanski is justified in his fear of extradition. And that the initial judge presiding over the trial fouled up the whole thing so bad that was why Polanksi fled. There was freaking plea deal in place, and because of what that judge did in changing the prior plea deals terms, and just grossly abusing his power that Polanski didn't trust any of that, or want a part of the circus that was going on in Hollywood because of what was happening, and so he just fled. And that trial, THAT instance is what people fixate on. It was such a cluster that the victim would later say that the judge presiding over it ruined her life worse than Polanski ever could. All of that, if you want to cite that this, THIS is the big reason Polanski is irredeemable, you're kind of not understanding how it all went down. What he did was wrong, unsupportable, and very likely evil. But the courts didn't just screw up, the legal system was turned into a mockery.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 13, 2015 9:23:03 GMT -5
At the time of his plea, Polanski accepted that prison and deportation was a possible consequence and would be left to the discretion of the judge. He still agreed to it. He has no basis for complaint. He's a coward. That's why he fled. His detestable interview in 1979 with Martin Amis shows he had no remorse at all over the crime.
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Post by thirteen3 on Mar 13, 2015 9:34:11 GMT -5
Roman Polanski is still making movies, with A-list stars, and many of them signed a petition supporting him. It's amazing, considering that he's a child rapist who fled punishment for his crime. Same for Victor Salva. The guy directed one of my favorite horror movies Clownhouse and molested the 12 year old star - making him stay after the filming was done for the day and then filmed the encounters. The boy told, he got arrested. Jail time. Came back and made Powder, and later the Jeepers Creepers franchise. How he's still making movies, in particular movies (like Jeepers Creepers 2 with a TON of young guys) with a young cast is beyond me. He's real pally with Francis Ford Coppola. If you're set with the Coppolas you're set 4 lyfe. *BLACK HELICOPTERS MAGGLE*
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Mar 13, 2015 11:04:49 GMT -5
Those actors include Harrison Ford, Johnny Depp, Jodie Foster, Kate Winslet, Ewen McGregor, Ben Kingsley, Hugh Grant, Sigourney Weaver, Christoph Waltz, Adrien Brody, and John C. Reilly. So not going to happen. Some of these are way too beloved to have their careers killed. Just goes to show, then, just how shady and unethical many actors are. With all the great directors in Hollywood, why would you ever consider working for such a shit-stain of a human being? I guarantee you (unless you're self-employed with no distributors or access to the outside world whatsoever) you and everyone here has a higher percentage that you will not only "consider" it, but you'll do it. Higher likelihood as opposed to those that won't. You may turn a blind eye to it. You may disapprove of it. You may even be totally oblivious to it. But much higher percentage that you will than you won't.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Mar 13, 2015 15:57:20 GMT -5
Just goes to show, then, just how shady and unethical many actors are. With all the great directors in Hollywood, why would you ever consider working for such a shit-stain of a human being? I guarantee you (unless you're self-employed with no distributors or access to the outside world whatsoever) you and everyone here has a higher percentage that you will not only "consider" it, but you'll do it. Higher likelihood as opposed to those that won't. You may turn a blind eye to it. You may disapprove of it. You may even be totally oblivious to it. But much higher percentage that you will than you won't. And you know this how? Many of these actors are A-list actors. They aren't starving for work. That's why I'm puzzled as to why any of them would associate with such a horrible human being.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Mar 13, 2015 16:50:35 GMT -5
I guarantee you (unless you're self-employed with no distributors or access to the outside world whatsoever) you and everyone here has a higher percentage that you will not only "consider" it, but you'll do it. Higher likelihood as opposed to those that won't. You may turn a blind eye to it. You may disapprove of it. You may even be totally oblivious to it. But much higher percentage that you will than you won't. And you know this how? Many of these actors are A-list actors. They aren't starving for work. That's why I'm puzzled as to why any of them would associate with such a horrible human being. Yeah, I get that's what you're saying. Looking at what I typed, I can see where context is lost. To be more direct, what I was getting at was a reactionary reply to your comment that seemed so shocked and appalled that people would work for a "s***-stain." My loosely made comment was based on the fact that I hear that stuff all the time, and I see even more people who operate "above the law" and they have a whole freaking lot of people under them who just go on their merry way, cash their checks from the s***-stains, and remain in the dark about it, oblivious to it, turning a blind eye to it, or even preach out against it. However, the mighty dollar more often than not blurs the line of what's a s***-stain and what constitutes what one will or won't do. I can see where the remarks I made were off-centered from where you were probably coming from. So, above is the short end of where I was going with it. It's a comment on the amount of s***-stains and not a rip at you or anything. There's just a lot of oblivious people out there, and it's not shocking at all to me that Roman Polanski has all those people backing him. He represents a lot more than just a "teen age frolic." Just like those people cutting checks for middlemen/middlewomen and "grunt workers" represent something way bigger, and that's why they get a pass. (Not saying that's the way it should be. Just something that isn't a shocking and "how could people work for someone like that???" as you made it in the comment I originally quoted. Like I said, wasn't really a quote directly to you. Just a blanket statement in general about the way things are and how it's not really something to be shocked about.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 14, 2015 22:19:13 GMT -5
How about the Dixie Chicks? Paula Deen?
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