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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 27, 2015 21:04:34 GMT -5
Jeeze did they really die on the same day? Not quite, but close. Black Cat died in late Jan '06, Grunge died about 2 weeks later. Oh wait, you're talking about Wellington...........holy crap, same day. But Wellington died on the 24th, and by that point both Nancy and Daniel were dead a day or more......gah, does this mean Benoit was *not* planning to kill himself, and that Wellington's death "sending him over the edge" meant killing himself? I always just assumed the murders were the prelude to his own inevitable suicide on that Sunday. No one mentioning the Kevin Sullivan conspiracy theory? /Or for that matter, that there was really a guy named Chris Benoit? //And thus Hardcore Holly DIDN'T win the WHC at WM20??
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Post by Racksman on Mar 27, 2015 21:30:14 GMT -5
Vince is the same guy that admitted wrestling was fake and killed kayfabe in order to get a tax break in New Jersey and New York. I highly doubt he would keep up this much kayfabe about Montreal being a work almost 20 years later.
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Post by Clawley Race on Mar 27, 2015 22:51:05 GMT -5
Not quite, but close. Black Cat died in late Jan '06, Grunge died about 2 weeks later. Oh wait, you're talking about Wellington...........holy crap, same day. But Wellington died on the 24th, and by that point both Nancy and Daniel were dead a day or more......gah, does this mean Benoit was *not* planning to kill himself, and that Wellington's death "sending him over the edge" meant killing himself? I always just assumed the murders were the prelude to his own inevitable suicide on that Sunday. No one mentioning the Kevin Sullivan conspiracy theory? /Or for that matter, that there was really a guy named Chris Benoit? //And thus Hardcore Holly DIDN'T win the WHC at WM20?? I don't think anyone won at WMXX. HHHBK just fought each other so ferociously that neither man won
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Post by willyjakes on Mar 27, 2015 23:30:37 GMT -5
Bruiser Brody was not the easiest guy to get along with. I wonder if we've gotten the full story regarding what happened that night.
Do we know whose knife it was? Or who drew it first. Maybe it was legit self defense?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 28, 2015 1:31:44 GMT -5
I believe that to be absolutely true and it was something I spoke about on this board. -------- For my own, I totally believe the Mania 3 of 93,173 is totally legit. The only source disputing this Zane or whats his name or whatever. Everyone else holds this number up to be true. Did it make the Guiness book of records? Not to my knowledge, but there's a ton of hoopla that goes into getting a World Record, so not sure they ever bothered.
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Post by willyjakes on Mar 28, 2015 15:15:34 GMT -5
93,000+ is probably legit, though 78k may have been paid attendance, but 93,000 were in the seats. The Silverdome sat 80,000 without a single floor seat, and the WWF filled those 80,000 PLUS had floor seats.
So it depends on if you believe they fit 13k on the floor. I suppose there is a chance it was "only" 88 or 89k. But no chance it was as little at 78,000
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 22:31:09 GMT -5
93,000+ is probably legit, though 78k may have been paid attendance, but 93,000 were in the seats. The Silverdome sat 80,000 without a single floor seat, and the WWF filled those 80,000 PLUS had floor seats. So it depends on if you believe they fit 13k on the floor. I suppose there is a chance it was "only" 88 or 89k. But no chance it was as little at 78,000 I've been doing a bit more research and yeah, evidently Meltzer claimed there was 78 with 75.5 paid... he's full of it. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} The perspective's a bit skewed but it's obvious there were a hell of a lot of floor seats. You could take all them away and you'd still be thousands of people over Meltzer's numbers...
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Mar 29, 2015 1:18:57 GMT -5
I've heard the theory that McMahon let/asked Russo go to WCW to be a 'poison pill'... And Hogan to TNA... maybe McMahon has the same kind of deal with CM Punk in an attempt to chip away at the popularity of the UFC?
The first attempt was Lesnar (and that failed because the fans accepted him), now Punk...
Will we see Santino go to the UFC if the fans accept CM Punk?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 29, 2015 4:43:48 GMT -5
93,000+ is probably legit, though 78k may have been paid attendance, but 93,000 were in the seats. The Silverdome sat 80,000 without a single floor seat, and the WWF filled those 80,000 PLUS had floor seats. So it depends on if you believe they fit 13k on the floor. I suppose there is a chance it was "only" 88 or 89k. But no chance it was as little at 78,000 I've been doing a bit more research and yeah, evidently Meltzer claimed there was 78 with 75.5 paid... he's full of it. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} The perspective's a bit skewed but it's obvious there were a hell of a lot of floor seats. You could take all them away and you'd still be thousands of people over Meltzer's numbers... There's a few thousand people not even in the frame of that picture....
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Mar 29, 2015 9:54:25 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really believe in any of these?
I'm not saying there isn't wrestling conspiracy theories but I just can't believe most of the ones mentioned in here (Warrior knew he was dying, Screwjob was a work, WM3 was actually 93k).
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 29, 2015 10:31:52 GMT -5
Test killed himself in 2009 because it was the 10th anniversary of HHH and Stephanie's on-screen wedding, which reminded him of what he could have had if he had married Stephanie in real life.
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Post by Larryhausen on Mar 29, 2015 12:37:22 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really believe in any of these? I'm not saying there isn't wrestling conspiracy theories but I just can't believe most of the ones mentioned in here (Warrior knew he was dying, Screwjob was a work, WM3 was actually 93k). I can accept not believing the Screwjob being a work. But those other two are so plausible that they're not even really conspiracy theories. Warrior said like ten years ago that heart disease runs in his family, and his father and grandfather passed at roughly the same age. Not saying he knew he was gonna die the next day, but that has to be in the back of your mind when you hit the age that your dad and grandpa both died. And, as was said above, the Silverdome held 80,000 without floor seats. That place was PACKED. What's so hard to believe that there were 93K there?
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Mar 29, 2015 12:41:10 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really believe in any of these? I'm not saying there isn't wrestling conspiracy theories but I just can't believe most of the ones mentioned in here (Warrior knew he was dying, Screwjob was a work, WM3 was actually 93k). I can accept not believing the Screwjob being a work. But those other two are so plausible that they're not even really conspiracy theories. Warrior said like ten years ago that heart disease runs in his family, and his father and grandfather passed at roughly the same age. Not saying he knew he was gonna die the next day, but that has to be in the back of your mind when you hit the age that your dad and grandpa both died. And, as was said above, the Silverdome held 80,000 without floor seats. That place was PACKED. What's so hard to believe that there were 93K there? Yeah but it's the same thing with Kevin Nash's family isn't it? Didn't his dad die at a really young age and Nash was/is worried he will follow suit? That doesn't mean that Nash "knows" he's going to die soon. And it's not hard to believe 93k was there. But WWE are known liars and exaggerators. I'm more inclined to believe Meltzer, who has nothing to gain from saying this is a lie, saying it was 78k. Especially when you look at the past few Manias that have been held in huge arenas and the crowd doesn't look much different from WM3. Most of those Mania's have had between 70 and 80 thousand too.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Mar 29, 2015 12:41:38 GMT -5
The most disturbing theory is that all of reality is just a hallucination of a feverish Eugene.
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Post by Larryhausen on Mar 29, 2015 12:44:27 GMT -5
I can accept not believing the Screwjob being a work. But those other two are so plausible that they're not even really conspiracy theories. Warrior said like ten years ago that heart disease runs in his family, and his father and grandfather passed at roughly the same age. Not saying he knew he was gonna die the next day, but that has to be in the back of your mind when you hit the age that your dad and grandpa both died. And, as was said above, the Silverdome held 80,000 without floor seats. That place was PACKED. What's so hard to believe that there were 93K there? Yeah but it's the same thing with Kevin Nash's family isn't it? Didn't his dad die at a really young age and Nash was/is worried he will follow suit? That doesn't mean that Nash "knows" he's going to die soon. And it's not hard to believe 93k was there. But WWE are known liars and exaggerators. I'm more inclined to believe Meltzer, who has nothing to gain from saying this is a lie, saying it was 78k. Especially when you look at the past few Manias that have been held in huge arenas and the crowd doesn't look much different from WM3. Most of those Mania's have had between 70 and 80 thousand too. Fair enough. But like I said, with Warrior, I can definitely believe that it was in the back of his mind, and he was in a "Well, you never know..." Kind of mindset.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Mar 29, 2015 13:35:49 GMT -5
The most disturbing theory is that all of reality is just a hallucination of a feverish Eugene. Eugene is wrestling's Tommy Westphall? But Bret Hart played himself in that episode of "The Simpsons", which also had the main characters from "The X-Files", which is connected (by a few steps) to "St. Elsewhere"... So, Eugene imagined Tommy Westphall imagining Eugene imagining Tommy... (someone post that head-exploding .gif from "Scanners"...)
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Post by Mid-Carder on Mar 29, 2015 13:42:49 GMT -5
I absolutely believe the Mania 3 attendance record. It looks like significantly more people, doesn't it?
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 29, 2015 13:51:02 GMT -5
I absolutely believe the Mania 3 attendance record. It looks like significantly more people, doesn't it? 94,000, brotha
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Post by Mid-Carder on Mar 29, 2015 13:53:20 GMT -5
I absolutely believe the Mania 3 attendance record. It looks like significantly more people, doesn't it? 94,000, brotha Well yeah. If Hogan says it, it's obviously the truth. Compare it, though, to Mania 5 or 6 or even a more recent massive one like 23. 3 looks like a hell of a lot more people to me.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 29, 2015 13:57:36 GMT -5
If Hogan speaks tonight at WM, I wouldn't be surprised if he rounds up the attendance at WMIII to over 100,000
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