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Post by thelonewolf527 on Mar 28, 2015 0:35:52 GMT -5
You do realize that means that if he holds onto the title (as in no Rollins cash in) that we'll have 3-4 pay-per-views in a row AGAIN with no title match right? Considering how boring the first 4 months without him on tv as champion were, I don't think we need another 3-4 months of that, especially since it's hard to come up with a worthy enough main event feud that hasn't been done already that doesn't involve the title in some way.
At this point, I don't see how keeping the title on him is going to help the product at all
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 28, 2015 0:40:28 GMT -5
Brock can make it work though. Get him to wrestle 5 total matches after this Mania and before next Mania. Build Lesnar as a guy in a class by himself and as such, to get a shot at him you have to earn it in a way you've never had to earn it before. He's the final boss, to get to him takes a shit load of work.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Mar 28, 2015 0:42:51 GMT -5
Brock can make it work though. Get him to wrestle 5 total matches after this Mania and before next Mania. Build Lesnar as a guy in a class by himself and as such, to get a shot at him you have to earn it in a way you've never had to earn it before. He's the final boss, to get to him takes a shit load of work. Yeah but what's the point of watching Raw if you know at the end of the day, none of what happens on the show really matters all that much until August?
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Post by madness50 on Mar 28, 2015 0:44:37 GMT -5
If he retains, Lesnar will more than likely have a match at Extreme Rules and then his next match will be at SummerSlam. Those PPV's between don't mean jack shit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 0:51:29 GMT -5
Don't care honestly, Brock makes it work and this will bring further light to the US/IC titles if Cena/Bryan (or Ambrose) win the belt. It's great all-around honestly and Brock's one of the only people who can pull it off. It reminds me of the 80s back when the champion didn't appear each and every week. It makes it appear as though it's a big deal. What the company could do it start doing more tournaments for the number 1 contender spot.
Personally I think Reigns will go heel and win anyway with Heyman's help so it doesn't matter to me but even so, they can always make it work with Brock. It's fine. Worst case, Rollins will cash in.
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Mar 28, 2015 0:51:41 GMT -5
That's fine, I'll live.
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Post by Chiral on Mar 28, 2015 0:55:40 GMT -5
Yeah but what's the point of watching Raw if you know at the end of the day, none of what happens on the show really matters all that much until August? I feel like that's been a problem in WWE booking since around...2011? The build to Wrestlemania 27 lead to a massive "tune in next year!" with Undertaker/Triple H and Cena/Rock. After Raw 1000 they made it clear the main event of the Rumble like 8 months away would be Punk vs. The Rock, and it was pretty obvious Rock/Cena 2 would happen. Next is probably Rock/Brock for next year. They have major problems making the inbetween matter because they barely try to do anything with it. I almost wish they'd have one world title set aside just for part timers and then a regularly defended world title.
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Post by Clawley Race on Mar 28, 2015 1:01:33 GMT -5
I'm fine with 4-6 title matches per year. It makes the title seem bigger. It leaves room for our desired IC-US Titles to mean more. It sells scrips for the Network that keeps the company we like/need making money.
The problem isn't the top guy not wrestling on tv...it is that most everyone else trades pins indiscriminately on tv that makes television worth nothing.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Mar 28, 2015 1:08:38 GMT -5
I dont need a top title match every month. Title matches should be massive deals not a regular expected occurrence. With Brock as champ, they ARE massive. We got very spoiled from the mid 90s until Brock won this past year with the regular WWE title match.
It also makes that moment when Brock does lose that much more significant. It's not time yet. Keep it on Brock. If the IC and US can get a little more prestige behind them, Im perfectly fine with those titles being the ones regualarly defended.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Mar 28, 2015 1:09:26 GMT -5
I too am fine with less title matches.
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Post by schma on Mar 28, 2015 1:21:17 GMT -5
I see a lot of people talking about how the IC/US titles can become more important with the World Title being non-existent most of the time. Really though, Brock has been champ for over half a year and they've only just started to make the IC title the focus of anything. It's also entirely possible that the IC match is yet another get everyone on the wrestlemania card match and come Monday it'll be back to the status quo of the IC champ being a jobber to the stars.
I would love to see the IC title actually mean something again but the fact is, I just don't see it happening. So you have a world champ who vanishes and isn't even mentioned for months at a time, midcard titles that don't even get a spotlight when they're the ONLY singles titles around to fight for and a whole lot of 'final boss' talk except Brock hasn't been booked like that at all. Cena got matches with him because title rematch and lolcena. Rollins got his match because authority. Reigns got his match from the rumble. No one yet has ascended the ladder or beat off all comers to get to the final boss and they've had 7 months to make something like this happen.
It's not going to happen. Within a couple weeks Brock will likely vanish again until Summerslam and many of us will be back to legitimately forgetting who the champion is. I'm not kidding. I forgot on more than one occasion that Brock was even champ. Kinda puts a damper on things when he does appear because instead of being excited it's more 'oh right, he still has the belt'.
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Post by FAR5222 on Mar 28, 2015 1:24:13 GMT -5
I really haven't cared about the title since Bryan won it. The title feels more special and there is no over saturation of Brock.
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Post by mystikz on Mar 28, 2015 1:25:53 GMT -5
Better than Reigns as champ. I want a Brock Rollins full feud though.
If the title is defended less fine. Makes it a bigger deal anyway.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 28, 2015 1:26:43 GMT -5
I really haven't cared about the title since Bryan won it. The title feels more special and there is no over saturation of Brock. Wait, what? You don't care about the title. But also, the title feels special. Why would it be special to you if you don't care about it? I am confused as to what you mean.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 1:30:18 GMT -5
They need to make a big deal out of people jockeying for position, competing for the next shot at Brock. I'd like to see them pull off a massive tournament heading into Summerslam that spans 2 months or so. Have guys cutting promos about making a statement to impress the brass and all that. And The Authority can milk it for all it's worth, pitting friends against each other and generally causing misery and chaos.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 28, 2015 1:32:05 GMT -5
Here's my thing.
The product is complete ass cheeks imo. Like, horrendous from almost every possible aspect. That's not gonna change regardless if Brock's the champ or not. The show was shit without him and it's shit with him. It don't matter, I just like Brock so I want to see him win.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 28, 2015 1:32:37 GMT -5
I dont need a top title match every month. Title matches should be massive deals not a regular expected occurrence. With Brock as champ, they ARE massive. We got very spoiled from the mid 90s until Brock won this past year with the regular WWE title match. It also makes that moment when Brock does lose that much more significant. It's not time yet. Keep it on Brock. If the IC and US can get a little more prestige behind them, Im perfectly fine with those titles being the ones regualarly defended. The problem is that WWE is likely only doing this BECAUSE Brock is champion, and thus doesn't like working all the time, and they would never give the title this treatment if anyone else had the belt.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Mar 28, 2015 1:53:09 GMT -5
I dont need a top title match every month. Title matches should be massive deals not a regular expected occurrence. With Brock as champ, they ARE massive. We got very spoiled from the mid 90s until Brock won this past year with the regular WWE title match. It also makes that moment when Brock does lose that much more significant. It's not time yet. Keep it on Brock. If the IC and US can get a little more prestige behind them, Im perfectly fine with those titles being the ones regualarly defended. The problem is that WWE is likely only doing this BECAUSE Brock is champion, and thus doesn't like working all the time, and they would never give the title this treatment if anyone else had the belt. I dont look at it like a problem. Its a byproduct of Brock having the belt. So what if they never would do it otherwise. Its happening now and thats fine.
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Post by FAR5222 on Mar 28, 2015 1:53:59 GMT -5
I really haven't cared about the title since Bryan won it. The title feels more special and there is no over saturation of Brock. Wait, what? You don't care about the title. But also, the title feels special. Why would it be special to you if you don't care about it? I am confused as to what you mean. It's not as special when the same people such as Orton, Cena hold it. That's what I really meant. When Bryan had it, it felt special. Then Cena had it and it didn't feel special anymore. Then Lesnar won it and it's felt special again. It's 3 AM here I'm sorry about not going into detail originally.
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Post by Chip on Mar 28, 2015 4:21:02 GMT -5
I want Brock to retain because suddenly there is no stand-out hero who's going to save the day. The building, or even, re-building of a new hero to take on Brock is infinitely more interesting to me then the belt. I don't even care if it's just Reigns again, just build him properly this time.
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