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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jul 3, 2015 8:24:44 GMT -5
Glad he's won it, dude's the best thing in TNA by a longshot. Wouldn't be surprised that it was JR that put a stop to any push he was getting, seems more and more these days we hear about how much of a politicking dick he was backstage whilst trying to get his hosses over. It wasn't JR, he wasn't involved on developmental at that point. Also Jim congratulated Ethan on twitter and EC3 actually retweeted the comment and thanked him. I think he was referring to Bill Demott burying him because he's the only fat guy of importance during that time. Yeah, dude obviously hates Demott with a passion. He's the only name that came to mind.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 3, 2015 12:06:34 GMT -5
To me it reminds me of Steve Corino telling the story about winning the ECW belt and how happy he was to achieve it, only to have bounced checks a couple of weeks later and desperately trying to get into WCW. EC3 deserves the belt no doubt about it, but is it really worth it to be the face of a dying brand? For him, yes. LOLTNA or no, its It's the highest point he's achieved in the business so far, and he should be proud of that.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 3, 2015 12:08:09 GMT -5
To me it reminds me of Steve Corino telling the story about winning the ECW belt and how happy he was to achieve it, only to have bounced checks a couple of weeks later and desperately trying to get into WCW. EC3 deserves the belt no doubt about it, but is it really worth it to be the face of a dying brand? For him, yes. LOLTNA or no, its It's the highest point he's achieved in the business so far, and he should be proud of that. Yeah he should be proud, I just hope that he uses this to springboard into something better, TNA doesn't deserve him.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 3, 2015 12:26:10 GMT -5
EC3 with some words after being world champ. That promo... can't help but feel good for the EC3 the guy. Whether you think TNA can survive again or you are actively rooting for their death, you can't help but feel good for EC3 and between this promo and his reaction (and other wrestlers reactions) on twitter that winning the title is validation for him that WWE was wrong about him (and honestly if you listen to any WWE developmental guy that knows EC3 they're shocked that WWE let him go). Oh and he is calling out DeMott. Even before the DeMott controversy came out EC3 has never shied away from his hatred of that man.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 3, 2015 12:35:29 GMT -5
Normally I'm not a fan of "dropped the ball" arguments, but WWE seriously missed a good boat in EC3. There's nothing cool about him, he's got a perfect heel aura.
Even Alex Riley could get a face pop against him.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 3, 2015 12:44:36 GMT -5
Normally I'm not a fan of "dropped the ball" arguments, but WWE seriously missed a good boat in EC3. There's nothing cool about him, he's got a perfect heel aura. Even Alex Riley could get a face pop against him. Even Rob Conway would get a reaction I don't know why they let him go, even John Cena was a supporter...although now that I think about it being Cena's friend isn't necessarily a good thing.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 3, 2015 13:23:00 GMT -5
Normally I'm not a fan of "dropped the ball" arguments, but WWE seriously missed a good boat in EC3. There's nothing cool about him, he's got a perfect heel aura. Even Alex Riley could get a face pop against him. Even Rob Conway would get a reaction I don't know why they let him go, even John Cena was a supporter...although now that I think about it being Cena's friend isn't necessarily a good thing. according to some of the recently released guys 1)He wasn't really a politician backstage 2)He kept getting injured 3)WWE saw him as no more than a comedy guy 4)Bill DeMott
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 3, 2015 14:04:08 GMT -5
Even Rob Conway would get a reaction I don't know why they let him go, even John Cena was a supporter...although now that I think about it being Cena's friend isn't necessarily a good thing. according to some of the recently released guys 1)He wasn't really a politician backstage 2)He kept getting injured 3)WWE saw him as no more than a comedy guy 4)Bill DeMott Ok at that time he was injury prone, now he's healthy and I hope he stays that way. I think he got saddled with a comedy gimmick after the stupid nxt infinite season garbage, he proved that he's more than a comedy guy. And lastly Bill Demott could've been a good trainer even if he's a despicable human being, but he's not a creative person, he never got over, he doesn't know what's over even if it stood in front of him
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 3, 2015 14:22:28 GMT -5
Normally I'm not a fan of "dropped the ball" arguments, but WWE seriously missed a good boat in EC3. There's nothing cool about him, he's got a perfect heel aura. Even Alex Riley could get a face pop against him. To give credit where credit is due, EC3 is a true TNA success story. That list isn't that long but he is someone who went to the next level in a company where even all star veterans falter. When the tome of TNA is written, his section won't be LOLTNA. Now watch TNA go prove me wrong.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 3, 2015 14:36:03 GMT -5
Normally I'm not a fan of "dropped the ball" arguments, but WWE seriously missed a good boat in EC3. There's nothing cool about him, he's got a perfect heel aura. Even Alex Riley could get a face pop against him. I disagree with the "even" Alex Riley part (dude got dueling chants against ultimate babyface Sami Zayn AFTER being a total jackass on Twitter), but yeah WWE did drop the ball on the former Derrick Bateman. It's a shame that he's one of the few things TNA got right, and they may not even last long enough to truly capitalize on it. Maybe when TNA goes under, he can be the face of GFW (after Jarrett of course ).
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Post by jimmyjames on Jul 3, 2015 15:36:53 GMT -5
I was skeptical of ECIII when he debuted and how he was written. I am so glad that I waited and that TNA developed his character. The sad ting about ECIII is that he is a great example of what TNA could've done if they took their time and developed characters fully instead of half asses as they did in the past. He's a good example of what TNA could have been if they developed more talent than just foisting the belt on the latest released WWE superstar.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 3, 2015 17:32:39 GMT -5
The sad part about EC3 is that he wins the belt and only days later PWI strips TNA of World title status. You know they wouldn't do that to Kurt Angle, haha. EC3 would be a problematic guy going back to WWE since he wouldn't be this particular gimmick and as such I don't think he would have much ability to generate heat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 20:04:19 GMT -5
Am a big fan and would love to see the EC3 character in WWE. The snobby, 1%er act would be a good foil for Cena's character and I think they'd have a fun feud.
Hopefully having 'last TNA champion' on his resume works out better than Zeke's 'last ECW champion' did.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 22:01:53 GMT -5
A cool thing about EC3 is that he's still got so much ahead of him, he's this good and only scratching the surface. I think he could be a really great face, he showed flashes during his WWE stint. I think he's got to get another shot with WWE, he didn't nuke the bridge that badly did he?
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jul 5, 2015 2:05:45 GMT -5
7 minutes ago EC3 tweeted some guy named Tom and Josh Matthews
"IM THE f***ING CHAMP TOM"
The tweet was uncensored, of course. Josh went ahead and retweeted that gem from the champ.
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Post by Aya Reiko on Jul 5, 2015 3:52:51 GMT -5
Here's two negative things to ponder
1-- Who does he face? Is there anyone that could be considered upper-mid card (much less ME) quality tier in TNA?
2-- If this was TNA circa about 2007 to 2012, does anyone really believe EC3 would have gotten as far as he is now?
While he deserves the WHC, I can't help but think he's the champ by default.
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Post by evilone on Jul 5, 2015 5:58:52 GMT -5
A cool thing about EC3 is that he's still got so much ahead of him, he's this good and only scratching the surface. I think he could be a really great face, he showed flashes during his WWE stint. I think he's got to get another shot with WWE, he didn't nuke the bridge that badly did he? Every successful heel can and should in the end be a good face at least, its natural. In EC3's case he showed face glimpse when he was in satiric/comedy role with Spud when they were hunting Hardy. That comedy piece and his facial expressions at the time are really likable and then he gradually went to being smug all the time. I said and I stand by my conviction that he could be a hell of an actor in teen comedies.
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Post by Mondai Rogue on Jul 5, 2015 11:40:00 GMT -5
7 minutes ago EC3 tweeted some guy named Tom and Josh Matthews "IM THE f***ING CHAMP TOM" The tweet was uncensored, of course. Josh went ahead and retweeted that gem from the champ. I'm going to guess - based purely on the message and not seeing the tweet - that Tom was trying to bag on ECIII being champion and/or working for TNA. Whilst I'm not entirely condoning the message, you have to think that people like ECIII eventually get fed of people on Twitter being like "OH LOL YOU WORK FOR TNA". A job is a job no matter what promotion is paying (and I assume ECIII will be one of the people in TNA who get their pay first in front of a guy like Tigre Uno or Crazzy Steve).
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Post by Saul Goodman on Jul 5, 2015 15:21:45 GMT -5
Not only is ECIII the best thing in TNA, he is the best thing in all of wrestling. TNA finally has a better champion than WWE. Besides Brock, Owens and NXT, the WWE has no one that can compare to ECIII. I hope TNA stays alive for a long time and ECIII holds the title forever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 15:41:24 GMT -5
EC3 is a victim of timing, even a year or two ago if he had been champ there would have been a little bit of a buzz, but TNA is so dead that no one really cares.
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