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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 31, 2015 22:26:51 GMT -5
She's way hotter than AJ too.
Just sayin.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 22:27:34 GMT -5
You guys are mean. Nikki Bella is my boo. Eva Marie would be so disappointed in you, man.
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Post by Indiana Miz on May 31, 2015 22:28:13 GMT -5
And she'll fade from face to heel and vice-versa about 6 times while she does it.
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Post by Emmet Russell on May 31, 2015 22:28:59 GMT -5
Still the best in the division. Vastly underrated by everyone on here. In a division that includes chicks like Natalya, Emma, Paige and even someone like Alicia Fox, how on earth in Nikki Bella the best in the division? She's decent on offense but can't sell worth a damn, doesn't have much charisma and is an awful promo. Name one good diva promo in the division? nothing Nikki has done can compare to the atrocity of the Paige promo from SD a few weeks ago. She keeps things simple and it works for her. She sells better than anyone gives her credit for. It's all in the facial expressions and she can sell a story of a match better than the other divas can. She doesn't try outlandish moves like the reverse rana and I love the rack attack and elbow as finishers - maybe because I like realistic finishers a lot more than moves like the rear view and Paige's convoluted submission thing. She's not going to be giving you a chain wrestling classic but all the moves she does are crisp and on point and she knows what to do inbetween the moves. She's very good. Alicia and Natalya are great and I wish they'd get more of a chance to shine. I'm sick of the same old shit with Paige being inserted into title feuds because they don't seem to want to use someone like Alicia. It's a damn shame they don't have more faith in her.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 31, 2015 22:29:27 GMT -5
You guys are mean. Nikki Bella is my boo. Eva Marie would be so disappointed in you, man. Me and Eva have a very open relationship. You don't even know.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on May 31, 2015 22:30:44 GMT -5
Once Nikki is done with the butt wiggly spin, I'm out.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 22:39:35 GMT -5
Name one good diva promo in the division? nothing Nikki has done can compare to the atrocity of the Paige promo from SD a few weeks ago. She keeps things simple and it works for her. She sells better than anyone gives her credit for. It's all in the facial expressions and she can sell a story of a match better than the other divas can. She doesn't try outlandish moves like the reverse rana and I love the rack attack and elbow as finishers - maybe because I like realistic finishers a lot more than moves like the rear view and Paige's convoluted submission thing. She's not going to be giving you a chain wrestling classic but all the moves she does are crisp and on point and she knows what to do inbetween the moves. She's very good. Alicia and Natalya are great and I wish they'd get more of a chance to shine. I'm sick of the same old shit with Paige being inserted into title feuds because they don't seem to want to use someone like Alicia. It's a damn shame they don't have more faith in her. Well yeah, since AJ left it's tough to name any good Diva promos. Didn't see the Paige Smackdown promo but Nikki's delivery just comes off as really bored-sounding to me. She's not god awful like Brie but she still comes off like she's trying real hard to remember her lines and as such forgets to emote. Then again the bland, incredibly shallow Mean Girls act does her no favors. She sells the same way that Cena does, which is to say barely. I never get the impression that she's actually hurting or anything during match. It's the opposite of the problem that Brie has, who sells well but is largely terrible on offense. Nikki's offense is executed well but it still feels like she wrestles like a Create-a-Wrestler or something. "My finisher's a backbreaker and I'm gonna' build up to that with some power moves, and also a springboard roundhouse kick, and I'll also work the arm a bit too for some reason including a cross armbar." Was the same issue I had with Eve, where she does a bunch of moves that have no real logical flow between them. I think a lot of my issue with Nikki though is that I am just so goddamn bored of the Bella Twins as an act, period. As you said, Alicia and Nattie both deserve much more than they're getting.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 31, 2015 22:44:32 GMT -5
It doesn't matter how long she holds the title for. Nikki will always suck and never be as good as AJ.
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Post by mhamm05 on May 31, 2015 22:46:26 GMT -5
Still the best in the division. Vastly underrated by everyone on here. In a division that includes chicks like Natalya, Emma, Paige and even someone like Alicia Fox, how on earth in Nikki Bella the best in the division? She's decent on offense but can't sell worth a damn, doesn't have much charisma and is an awful promo. Agreed. I was just asking why Nattie hasn't come back to wrestling. She would be the best wrestler (maybe not personality) in that division right now.
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Post by Emmet Russell on May 31, 2015 22:46:30 GMT -5
Name one good diva promo in the division? nothing Nikki has done can compare to the atrocity of the Paige promo from SD a few weeks ago. She keeps things simple and it works for her. She sells better than anyone gives her credit for. It's all in the facial expressions and she can sell a story of a match better than the other divas can. She doesn't try outlandish moves like the reverse rana and I love the rack attack and elbow as finishers - maybe because I like realistic finishers a lot more than moves like the rear view and Paige's convoluted submission thing. She's not going to be giving you a chain wrestling classic but all the moves she does are crisp and on point and she knows what to do inbetween the moves. She's very good. Alicia and Natalya are great and I wish they'd get more of a chance to shine. I'm sick of the same old shit with Paige being inserted into title feuds because they don't seem to want to use someone like Alicia. It's a damn shame they don't have more faith in her. Well yeah, since AJ left it's tough to name any good Diva promos. Didn't see the Paige Smackdown promo but Nikki's delivery just comes off as really bored-sounding to me. She's not god awful like Brie but she still comes off like she's trying real hard to remember her lines and as such forgets to emote. Then again the bland, incredibly shallow Mean Girls act does her no favors. She sells the same way that Cena does, which is to say barely. I never get the impression that she's actually hurting or anything during match. It's the opposite of the problem that Brie has, who sells well but is largely terrible on offense. Nikki's offense is fine but it still feels like she wrestles like a Create-a-Wrestler or something. "My finisher's a backbreaker and I'm gonna' build up to that with some power moves, and also a springboard roundhouse kick, and I'll also work the arm a bit too for some reason including a cross armbar." Was the same issue I had with Eve, where she does a bunch of moves that have no real logical flow between them. I think a lot of my issue with Nikki though is that I am just so goddamn bored of the Bella Twins as an act, period. As you said, Alicia and Nattie both deserve much more than they're getting. That's fine, I can see how people can be bored by them: their characters are very stale and quite hypocritcal as babyfaces. I just really like their matches, especially as a pair because as you mentioned, Nikki is great at offence and Brie is great at selling, when put together in a tag match they work very well together. I thought the match the two had against each other at HITC last year was the best divas match all year - not counting NXT, of course. Nikki's singles work against AJ and Paige on Raw were both very good matches and I often feel like she stands out in matches as a good worker. She hits her spots well and plays a good strength worker. No one else in the divisions stands out to me like Nikki does. Brie is the Mark Briscoe of the act where she eats the pins in Nikki's feuds. Paige is stale. Natalya is just a manager. Naomi is very inconsistent. Tamina is ass. Alicia and Emma and Summer and Cameron are never used; It's a shit division, and Nikki is the best of the worst, in my opinion.
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 31, 2015 22:47:06 GMT -5
She's way hotter than AJ too. Just sayin. There are a lot of Divas way hotter than AJ. Just sayin.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 31, 2015 22:47:42 GMT -5
She's way hotter than AJ too. Just sayin. There are a lot of Divas way hotter than AJ. Just sayin. Also true.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 22:55:15 GMT -5
That's fine, I can see how people can be bored by them: their characters are very stale and quite hypocritcal as babyfaces. I just really like their matches, especially as a pair because as you mentioned, Nikki is great at offence and Brie is great at selling, when put together in a tag match they work very well together. I thought the match the two had against each other at HITC last year was the best divas match all year - not counting NXT, of course. Nikki's singles work against AJ and Paige on Raw were both very good matches and I often feel like she stands out in matches as a good worker. She hits her spots well and plays a good strength worker. No one else in the divisions stands out to me like Nikki does. Brie is the Mark Briscoe of the act where she eats the pins in Nikki's feuds. Paige is stale. Natalya is just a manager. Naomi is very inconsistent. Tamina is ass. Alicia and Emma and Summer and Cameron are never used; It's a shit division, and Nikki is the best of the worst, in my opinion. Yeah the Nikki/Brie match was actually really good. The feud leading up to it, and fallout from it, made for some truly putrid, nonsensical television, but in a vacuum that was a very solid outing. And even if I nitpick Nikki's moveset, I'll take well-executed if somewhat nonsensical offense over a lot of the main roster's output. I just wish that WWE didn't insist on trying to force a square peg into a round hole by making them faces, and I wish that their characters had any sort of depth whatsoever. They've been a staple of the Divas division for 7 years and they haven't changed a bit character-wise, which makes it really difficult to get invested in them no matter how much they might have grown as wrestlers. And this again is coupled with the fact that you have women like Alicia and Nattie who barely ever got any time to shine, or girls like Emma who never even got a proper chance.
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Post by Malibu Albino on May 31, 2015 22:56:35 GMT -5
You guys are mean. Nikki Bella is my boo.
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Post by JTG Fan on May 31, 2015 22:58:07 GMT -5
The AJ record isn't a factor, but I have no idea what they are going for with babyface Divas champion Nikki Bella.
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Post by 2 time pro bowler Fred Dryer on May 31, 2015 23:02:49 GMT -5
I get a kick out of these threads. How many people do you think know, or care who the longest reigning Divas champion is? Hell, I'd wager the majority of people who work for WWE wouldn't know that information off the top of their head.
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Post by the2ndevil on May 31, 2015 23:05:05 GMT -5
Hell, at this point, I'm hoping she beats Punk's record.
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 31, 2015 23:09:33 GMT -5
Hell, at this point, I'm hoping she beats Punk's record. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, and I actually like Nikki Bella. By day 300, it felt like Punk had held the title for a century, and his entrance theme made me physically sick. Of course, Nikki Bella won't be starting and ending every RAW, so they could pull it off in a far more innocuous fashion.
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Post by the2ndevil on May 31, 2015 23:12:17 GMT -5
Hell, at this point, I'm hoping she beats Punk's record. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, and I actually like Nikki Bella. By day 300, it felt like Punk had held the title for a century, and his entrance theme made me physically sick. Of course, Nikki Bella won't be starting and ending every RAW, so they could pull it off in a far more innocuous fashion. Yeah, I think the lower card titles can do the longer reigns better than the world titles because they're not the focus of the show.
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Post by Lupin the Third on May 31, 2015 23:12:27 GMT -5
Eva Marie would be so disappointed in you, man. Me and Eva have a very open relationship. You don't even know. Tommy Dreamer?
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