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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 1, 2015 14:11:39 GMT -5
Dolph and Lana have no chemistry at all. Drop the accent already.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 1, 2015 14:16:26 GMT -5
This is how I would have done it.
I'd have let Rusev win the feud with Cena, which kills Cena's confidence. You then have Rusev and Lana gloating insanely week after week until a fresh new challenger, maybe someone from NXT comes in and beats Rusev clean to win the title and be elevated.
Meanwhile Cena is full of self doubt. He shows up not wearing his merchandise but just normal casual clothes doing the sad face and voice where he tells the kids that he may not have it anymore and wonders if his time has passed. Then, it creates a perfect opportunity to bring in Kevin Owens, who opportunistically sees this as a chance to make his mark in WWE by targeting their biggest star at his most vulnerable point.
He faces Cena a few times and wins. Cena goes further into self doubt, until he regains his confidence. WWE run some vignettes of Cena training hard like a madman, and he eventually kills Owen in the match of his life.
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Post by Injustice45 on Jul 1, 2015 14:18:39 GMT -5
Man, this storyline has done no favors for anyone involved. Rusev is made to look like a buffoon, Lana goes from being the mastermind behind Rusev to someone who was controlled by him (?), and Dolph looks like a douche, and he's incredibly unlikable.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 1, 2015 14:23:49 GMT -5
Just hurry up and do the damn Wrestling Wedding already with this shitty angle so we can at least get some crappy shenanigans out of this deal.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 1, 2015 14:24:43 GMT -5
Dolph looks like a douche, and he's incredibly unlikable. So Dolph Ziggler has been unaffected by this storyline?
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jul 1, 2015 14:37:52 GMT -5
The fans enjoyed Lana as a prissy, controlled, sexy, heel, who they loved to hate. But Vince is stupid, so naturally he messed it all up. I know it was one of the top heel gimmicks and they ruined because Baywatch or something
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 14:54:55 GMT -5
Dolph looks like a douche, and he's incredibly unlikable. So Dolph Ziggler has been unaffected by this storyline? I love Dolph but that's pretty funny.
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Post by The Tee Why on Jul 1, 2015 15:00:25 GMT -5
Dolph and Lana have no chemistry at all. Drop the accent already. This is the worst part of it all imo. It's just such a joke of a feud... Dolph ends up walking around like he's the first 4th grader to have a girl like him. And Lana comes off as some socially awkward woman.
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Post by ayumidah on Jul 1, 2015 16:03:34 GMT -5
That report about how Vince was trying to break Lana and Rusev up in real life, and that's why Rusev wouldn't stay off the road... who knows, maybe there was some validity to it. Or Rusev feels like there may be. I'm not sure why he'd stay otherwise, unless they figured this was the best way to keep him from being forgotten, which ugh not really.
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Jul 1, 2015 16:50:58 GMT -5
There is an awesome path they could take this.
Use Zigglers real life contract status. Lana was basically a handler/agent correct? She negotiates a new contract for him with the Authority which requires him to sell out to get more money and opportunities. Given his relationship with her and disillusionment with fighting for te right thing and getting no where, he sells out. The Authority tells Rusev that they will stay out of his way and work with him, if he just stays away from Lana and Ziggler. Rusev still a heel agrees. Rusev continues as a heel but stops the anti America crap and starts winning mostly clean. In the coming months. Around Royal Rumble or so, now fully heel, Ziggler starts blaming Lana for losses and being verbally awful. Finally, Lana starts crying and is at her lowest moment when Rusev runs out and destroys Ziggler completely severing his truce with the Authority. Rusev and Lana have a Macho Man/Liz moment and Ziggler and Rusev have a match at Wrestlemania that has been built for months.
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 1, 2015 17:07:14 GMT -5
Just reading this, I'm getting a feeling of deja vu, and not a good one. Someone needs to tell Vince and whoever thought this angle up that the last time someone booked a breakup that ended up happening in real life, the saga didn't end well.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 1, 2015 17:12:49 GMT -5
I'd rather take in an old Steve Reeves movie.
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Jul 1, 2015 17:27:41 GMT -5
Just reading this, I'm getting a feeling of deja vu, and not a good one. Someone needs to tell Vince and whoever thought this angle up that the last time someone booked a breakup that ended up happening in real life, the saga didn't end well. Justin Gabriel quit and Heath Slater had that arrest, but they seem ok
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jul 1, 2015 17:40:15 GMT -5
I'd rather take in an old Steve Reeves movie. Lana shivers in antici.................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pation.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 1, 2015 17:41:22 GMT -5
I'd rather take in an old Steve Reeves movie. Lana shivers in antici.................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pation. If she came to my lab, I'd let her see what's on the slab. That doesn't really make much sense. But bah.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 1, 2015 17:51:10 GMT -5
Lana shivers in antici.................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pation. If she came to my lab, I'd let her see what's on the slab. That doesn't really make much sense. But bah.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Jul 1, 2015 19:20:08 GMT -5
Rusev is nailing everything he's doing - a truly tremendous performer, he is. The same can't be said for everyone else in the program ...
I've said my piece many times on how much I dislike Ziggler, and nothing he's doing in this program is proving me wrong - he's atrocious. I didn't think it was possible, but they've killed his character even further by changing him from guy that steals your girlfriend to guy that giggles when talking about a secret relationship. How much more lame could you possible come across than being a mid-thirties guy and giggling about a lady? They're killing him.
I think the match will be good when they eventually do it. But the whole lead up to it has been some of the worst TV they've ever produced, bar Rusv being awesome.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 1, 2015 19:25:49 GMT -5
I haven't read through the entire thread, but abysmal would be putting it kindly. The acting and storytelling in that segment was so putridly awful that I just couldn't take it and walked out of the room. Keep in mind I've been watching this company for 25 years almost, and I couldn't make it through this segment. It was that bad. Another sign of how bad it is, is how quickly the "We want Lana!" chants and reactions for Lana in general have died down. This storyline and the company turning Lana face is the 2015 version of "Fandangoing." Good comparison. You had Fandango and Summer as a pair of heels who were getting over because they played their parts to the hilt, fandom was going gaga over Summer because of her NXT work and how freaking gorgeous she was in those outfits. So they break them up by having Fandango dump Summer (and not even on TV, no less!) and put Fandango with Layla-and then have Layla turn on Fandango and team with Summer, and the two of them proceed to repeatedly make Fandango's life miserable while he is repeatedly jobbed out, making Fandango actually look like the sympathetic one and Summer and Layla look like the heels. Then they proceed to rarely have any of them appear on tv.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 1, 2015 19:48:15 GMT -5
Good comparison. You had Fandango and Summer as a pair of heels who were getting over because they played their parts to the hilt, fandom was going gaga over Summer because of her NXT work and how freaking gorgeous she was in those outfits. So they break them up by having Fandango dump Summer (and not even on TV, no less!) and put Fandango with Layla-and then have Layla turn on Fandango and team with Summer, and the two of them proceed to repeatedly make Fandango's life miserable while he is repeatedly jobbed out, making Fandango actually look like the sympathetic one and Summer and Layla look like the heels. Then they proceed to rarely have any of them appear on tv. In other words Fandango and Summer as heels were vaguely over (not even as heels, just because people cheered a pretty girl some) Then when you removed the pretty girl no one gave a shit about Fandango. I can go out there with a girl in revealing clothes and pretend to be over too by standing nearby. Fandango sucked from day 1 and was an empty boring gimmick with no character. Woo he dances, it's riveting stuff. People singing his music in the crowd for a few weeks wasn't because of how great he was, it's because it's a goofy song that can catch on. As a heel no one booed him and when he turned face no one cheered him. That takes a special kind of talent. Conway would approve. That's part of it; of two of them are not getting heel heat and are actually getting face pops because of the dance, maybe the obvious thing to do would be, you know, turn them face instead of trying to keep forcing a heel act that clearly wasn't catching on?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 21:10:00 GMT -5
In other words Fandango and Summer as heels were vaguely over (not even as heels, just because people cheered a pretty girl some) Then when you removed the pretty girl no one gave a shit about Fandango. I can go out there with a girl in revealing clothes and pretend to be over too by standing nearby. Fandango sucked from day 1 and was an empty boring gimmick with no character. Woo he dances, it's riveting stuff. People singing his music in the crowd for a few weeks wasn't because of how great he was, it's because it's a goofy song that can catch on. As a heel no one booed him and when he turned face no one cheered him. That takes a special kind of talent. Conway would approve. That's part of it; of two of them are not getting heel heat and are actually getting face pops because of the dance, maybe the obvious thing to do would be, you know, turn them face instead of trying to keep forcing a heel act that clearly wasn't catching on? They weren't getting face pops because of the dance. Just the theme music, that's it. That ended very quickly. It was a minor meme and it's done. Summer Rae got minor face pops for being pretty. That's it. Turning them face means Summer Rae would...well continue getting minor face pops for being pretty. Then Fandango would continue getting Conway pops because he doesn't do anything. Only difference would be which flavor of jobber you preferred him being. I thought I covered this all in that post you quoted. Fandango does nothing the crowd cares about. Fandango was in fact turned face. But good god lets not pretend like if Summer was with him it would have caught fire. It would have been completely empty and a failure. Like Fandango has always been.
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