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Post by chazraps on Aug 11, 2015 12:54:45 GMT -5
He has a lawsuit against gawker over the sex tape. But what the f*** has the FBI got to do with it. What?
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 11, 2015 12:54:49 GMT -5
He has a lawsuit against gawker over the sex tape. But what the f*** has the FBI got to do with it. Hogan claimed he was being extorted, that is a major crime.
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Aug 11, 2015 12:57:39 GMT -5
He has a lawsuit against gawker over the sex tape. But what the f*** has the FBI got to do with it. If you watch it really closely you can see Nunzio walking by with a sandwich outside of the window.
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Post by Push R Truth on Aug 11, 2015 13:31:57 GMT -5
Hogan going back to TNA to finally kill the promotion would be the perfect cherry on top of the shit sundae.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 11, 2015 13:33:39 GMT -5
If he goes back to TNA, both he and Dixie should wear the exact same clothing they wore when she was begging him to stay.
The implication would be that she's spent the last few years holding onto his legs and has finally succeeded in dragging him back to TNA
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Aug 11, 2015 13:42:35 GMT -5
The thought of Hulk Hogan with Billy Corgan's booking is just...wow.
Those segments are going to be harder to mention on this board than a Chris Benoit vs. Voldemort match.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 11, 2015 13:45:05 GMT -5
The thought of Hulk Hogan with Billy Corgan's booking is just...wow.. Billy: "I'm sorry Hulkster, but there's nothing worse than an orange-bellied freak... unless that's his act"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 14:57:10 GMT -5
He's going to become the last TNA champion isn't he? A fitting end. While were at it, make him the first and last GFW Champion too so Jarrett can finally get his match against Hogan.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 11, 2015 15:07:55 GMT -5
Would it really be possible to extort Hulk Hogan with that sex tape?
What would the blackmailer say?
"Hey Terry, if you don't give me some money, I'll show everyone the tape. Your wife will divorce you, people will mock you, and you'll be an embarassment to yourself and your fans!"
Bit late for that.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 11, 2015 15:30:07 GMT -5
Would it really be possible to extort Hulk Hogan with that sex tape? What would the blackmailer say? "Hey Terry, if you don't give me some money, I'll show everyone the tape. Your wife will divorce you, people will mock you, and you'll be an embarassment to yourself and your fans!" Bit late for that. 'If you don't give us something we want, we'll release the horrendous racist rant, costing you every paying gig that you have and making sure your talentless kids can no longer ride your coattails for celebrity status.'
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Post by paulbearer on Aug 11, 2015 16:33:32 GMT -5
The Sweet Inspiration once went off stage cuz Elvis yelled at Westmoreland cuz she didn't approve how he presented her on stage , in the limo after the show E went ballistic saying "get me another n-word group !"
Doesn't mean E was racist. He was just human.
Hell , I could even forgive Benoit for what he did : why judge a person for 1 bad day in their life , not to mention his mental state.
Back to Hogan , imo it was much more cruel when he said that the crippled kid deserved it.
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Aug 11, 2015 17:01:49 GMT -5
The Sweet Inspiration once went off stage cuz Elvis yelled at Westmoreland cuz she didn't approve how he presented her on stage , in the limo after the show E went ballistic saying "get me another n-word group !" Doesn't mean E was racist. He was just human. Throwing racial slurs at people because they don't like you doesn't seem like a very normal part of being human.
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Post by paulbearer on Aug 11, 2015 21:28:58 GMT -5
I'm gonna give Hulkster benefit of doubt as he was pretty depressed then and as such you can say things you don't really mean.
"It's very hard to live up to an image" (Elvis)
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 11, 2015 21:54:16 GMT -5
I'm gonna give Hulkster benefit of doubt as he was pretty depressed then and as such you can say things you don't really mean. "It's very hard to live up to an image" (Elvis) Not disparaging an entire race of people isn't living up to an image, it's just common decency. There's been ample evidence given in this thread that Terry Bollea is far from a decent man, and as such is pretty undeserving of any benefit of doubt.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 11, 2015 21:54:51 GMT -5
The Sweet Inspiration once went off stage cuz Elvis yelled at Westmoreland cuz she didn't approve how he presented her on stage , in the limo after the show E went ballistic saying "get me another n-word group !" Doesn't mean E was racist. He was just human. Hell , I could even forgive Benoit for what he did : why judge a person for 1 bad day in their life , not to mention his mental state. Back to Hogan , imo it was much more cruel when he said that the crippled kid deserved it. Now, what Hogan said, I don't agree with it, but if you can forgive it, that's fine for you. I've heard worse, like Donald Sterling. What I can't get past is, that goes far above and beyond a bad day, what happened with Benoit. I am genuinely not even sure what to say to that, outside of that I feel that's a huge downplaying of what he did and his personal responsibility for his actions. It's not like he threw a lamp or something. He killed his wife, murdered his son, and finished himself off rather than try to give any answers to family as to why or how the events had played out. It just feels cheapening of the events that occurred.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Aug 11, 2015 21:59:14 GMT -5
I know when I think of Benoit, I hear that Daniel Powter song
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Post by segaz on Aug 12, 2015 19:02:21 GMT -5
The one thing that lessens the blow to me is that Hogan, as far as anyone of us know, never acted on any racist feelings he may have had. In other words, he worked with Kamala. He worked with Zeus. He teamed with Koko B. Ware. He teamed with JYD. He put over The Rock. He, according to Booker T, made Booker feel better about the N-Word slip up. And so on. I haven't heard any stories from anyone Hogan has worked with that insinuated that he was racist. Politics, not putting someone over, sure, but never racism. So if he truly feels the way he expressed in that leaked audio, then at least he never acted on it. Words are just words. They are hurtful, but in this case, those words only hurt Hogan. Someone like Sterling was a racist who had people's lives and jobs in his hands. Completely different scenario. On another note, I am someone who despises how overly PC the world is. I can't stand fake outrage and trying to hyperbolize people's words to get them into trouble. With all that said, Hogan flat out said he was racist if that audio is correct, and then proceeded to drop N-bombs and talk about how he doesn't want his daughter dating a black guy. There's really no way to twist that. He flat out says it. In this case, "overly PC" and "fake outrage" does not exist. Hogan is completely at fault here. IAWTC People who take one private conversation Hulk has with a mistress and conveniently forget how his professional and public social persona was (a "real American" for all races legit) really seem to be missing the point of the word 'progress'. I can be mad at Hogan if he honestly hates Blacks. While I don't respect him or his racist thoughts, I respect the fact that he recognizes that is a blemish on his personality and its a thing of shame that has ruined his career in most people's eyes. Also I find it ironic that Rodman tagged a bunch of Black basketball players in his pro-Hogan tweet. I'm glad to be able to live in a world where I'm allowed to find humor in that irony! I think this line of thinking applies here. Quite frankly some of the reactions in this thread have made me disappointed. people saying that Hogan should be totally black balled and WWE should never mention him and edit him out EVER AGAIN NO MATTER WHAT is a sad sorry state of affairs. Hogan is no rolf Harris. There is no record of him ever using race to 'hold someone down' he has worked with people all over the world from all walks of life. He has been photographed with all sorts of fans etc. This doesn't excuse his actions. However he has publicly apologised, and after being totally humiliated and ridiculed and fully held at accountable for his actions, loss of his job, loss of career and huge stain on his reputation, people on here want to refuse him any chance of rehabilitation or recrimination? No matter what, in the future any situation with a black person involving Hulk Hogan, positive, negative, or simply word association is going to be met with sly jabs, cynicism and barely concealed hate. And the mods here turn a blind eye to it. I'm sorry, this is not the Ben out situation. If you now feel sick and can't ever bring yourself to watch a Hogan match again, that's up to you. But by continuing to hold a grudge, you are portraying hate in a similar fashion. Let me be honest and I am totally serious here, it's actually a good thing this has happened. It reinforces in our society that this type of mindset is outdated and wrong. But more importantly, it is possibly the only thing that would bring about a true change and repentance from Hogan himself. In the long run, this is the best thing to happen to him in terms of his own personal growth as a human being. I hope Hogan is able to show that you're never to old to change. This could become quite a powerful message if he does speeches later on about how he had no problem with black people on the surface, they never got in his way and he got on with them in a working relationship fine. But deep down it was when they came close to his family when his true feelings came to the surface. There was a limit for him, but because he was able to hide it well the issue never needed addressing. No he's forced to deal with it and it's ultimately made him a better person inside. imagine him saying he took some time out to examine his past and find out what the triggers were from his childhood that made him react that way. Truly powerful stuff from an actual legend. But no, some people feel it is more important to hold on to the hate, that it's disrespectful to the past if you forgive Hogan. I understand that it may seem like that, but do you ever realise that the some of the biggest stories and insights about the behaviour and mentality of racists, alcoholics etc come from former offenders? Has anyone here even seen American History X, even though Hogan was nowhere near that level? I am really disappointed in this place. Oh man, and then you got the guy here claiming everyone uses the word and he's black so what's the problem, black n, white n, blah blah blah same old argument that goes on and on, kids who grew up hearing it in rap music without understanding why Black people started using the word in the first place. You wanna go back 60 years and see a white guy try and use the word because 'it's just a word, no word has power etc,'.Man I better not get into the social side of things with that guy. He just doesn't understand. At the very least, accept it is a swearword and one with a lot of stigma and history behind it. Hogan man, you brought a lot of entertainment and prestige to the industry. But you messed up, and in the process it exposed a hidden ugly side. Now you really gotta go through the Dungeon of Doom and find out if it's hot or not. Now you gonna get dry humped by the Yeti Hogan. Only time will tell if you will be the third man who betrays WCW. Gotta stop myself there, I'm losing track
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Post by chazraps on Aug 13, 2015 0:01:42 GMT -5
The Sweet Inspiration once went off stage cuz Elvis yelled at Westmoreland cuz she didn't approve how he presented her on stage , in the limo after the show E went ballistic saying "get me another n-word group !" Doesn't mean E was racist. He was just human. Hell , I could even forgive Benoit for what he did : why judge a person for 1 bad day in their life , not to mention his mental state. Back to Hogan , imo it was much more cruel when he said that the crippled kid deserved it. Do you have a source for that Elvis story? Also, you don't hold Benoit responsible for letting his mental state get to such a place at the expense of his family. It takes a lifetime of choices to get to such a point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 1:25:17 GMT -5
I'm gonna give Hulkster benefit of doubt as he was pretty depressed then and as such you can say things you don't really mean. "It's very hard to live up to an image" (Elvis) Depression doesn't make you a racist. Depression may help an already racist say racist things out loud, depression may cause an already racist to literally say "I'm a racist" out loud, but depression or a bad day doesn't make you racist out of the blue if you're not racist
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Post by 67 more on Aug 13, 2015 3:08:47 GMT -5
IAWTC People who take one private conversation Hulk has with a mistress and conveniently forget how his professional and public social persona was (a "real American" for all races legit) really seem to be missing the point of the word 'progress'. I can be mad at Hogan if he honestly hates Blacks. While I don't respect him or his racist thoughts, I respect the fact that he recognizes that is a blemish on his personality and its a thing of shame that has ruined his career in most people's eyes. Also I find it ironic that Rodman tagged a bunch of Black basketball players in his pro-Hogan tweet. I'm glad to be able to live in a world where I'm allowed to find humor in that irony! I think this line of thinking applies here. Quite frankly some of the reactions in this thread have made me disappointed. people saying that Hogan should be totally black balled and WWE should never mention him and edit him out EVER AGAIN NO MATTER WHAT is a sad sorry state of affairs. Hogan is no rolf Harris. There is no record of him ever using race to 'hold someone down' he has worked with people all over the world from all walks of life. He has been photographed with all sorts of fans etc. This doesn't excuse his actions. However he has publicly apologised, and after being totally humiliated and ridiculed and fully held at accountable for his actions, loss of his job, loss of career and huge stain on his reputation, people on here want to refuse him any chance of rehabilitation or recrimination? No matter what, in the future any situation with a black person involving Hulk Hogan, positive, negative, or simply word association is going to be met with sly jabs, cynicism and barely concealed hate. And the mods here turn a blind eye to it. I'm sorry, this is not the Ben out situation. If you now feel sick and can't ever bring yourself to watch a Hogan match again, that's up to you. But by continuing to hold a grudge, you are portraying hate in a similar fashion. Let me be honest and I am totally serious here, it's actually a good thing this has happened. It reinforces in our society that this type of mindset is outdated and wrong. But more importantly, it is possibly the only thing that would bring about a true change and repentance from Hogan himself. In the long run, this is the best thing to happen to him in terms of his own personal growth as a human being. I hope Hogan is able to show that you're never to old to change. This could become quite a powerful message if he does speeches later on about how he had no problem with black people on the surface, they never got in his way and he got on with them in a working relationship fine. But deep down it was when they came close to his family when his true feelings came to the surface. There was a limit for him, but because he was able to hide it well the issue never needed addressing. No he's forced to deal with it and it's ultimately made him a better person inside. imagine him saying he took some time out to examine his past and find out what the triggers were from his childhood that made him react that way. Truly powerful stuff from an actual legend. But no, some people feel it is more important to hold on to the hate, that it's disrespectful to the past if you forgive Hogan. I understand that it may seem like that, but do you ever realise that the some of the biggest stories and insights about the behaviour and mentality of racists, alcoholics etc come from former offenders? Has anyone here even seen American History X, even though Hogan was nowhere near that level? I am really disappointed in this place. Oh man, and then you got the guy here claiming everyone uses the word and he's black so what's the problem, black n, white n, blah blah blah same old argument that goes on and on, kids who grew up hearing it in rap music without understanding why Black people started using the word in the first place. You wanna go back 60 years and see a white guy try and use the word because 'it's just a word, no word has power etc,'.Man I better not get into the social side of things with that guy. He just doesn't understand. At the very least, accept it is a swearword and one with a lot of stigma and history behind it. Hogan man, you brought a lot of entertainment and prestige to the industry. But you messed up, and in the process it exposed a hidden ugly side. Now you really gotta go through the Dungeon of Doom and find out if it's hot or not. Now you gonna get dry humped by the Yeti Hogan. Only time will tell if you will be the third man who betrays WCW. Gotta stop myself there, I'm losing track Hogan may have apologised, but then immediately whined straight after how a black man was able to use the word at a racism debate but can't understand why a white man can't use the word as a hate-filled attack. He doesn't think there's anything wrong with the word, he doesn't think he did anything wrong, his apology meant shit. That's people's main problem, not that he held those racist feelings in 2008 "during the worst time of his life which magically made him racist", but his complete failure to redeem himself. Also, no one here is being as dramatic as you said they are. No-one is comparing him to Benoit, what Benoit did is much worse. I'm against mind-wiping him for the same reason I'm against mind-wiping Benoit, he was part of history. But should WWE work with him until he's able to actually redeem himself? No. Will they work with him when everyone's forgot about it? Yes. We all know this isn't a permanent thing, anyway, it never is with WWE. Add on to that, it's not like Hogan's been a nice guy all his life and suddenly had this outburst. Hogan's always been a POS, a pathological liar who's intentionally hurt the careers of others when there was no need.
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