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Post by ededdneddy on Aug 4, 2015 17:38:25 GMT -5
Soon Cena is going to have people booing Make A Wish. Well he is already having use hating him when he talks about this kid having cancer and yadda yadda and i mean when he was giving thay bull to Owens a while ago alot of us hated that
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on Aug 4, 2015 17:56:17 GMT -5
Things like this are why there is nothing funnier to me than when John Cena wins a match and you have grown men fuming over it. It’s like they don’t realize this is just wrestling. If you’re cheering a human being getting legitimately injured and are devastated when a scripted match doesn’t go to your liking then sorry, but I’m not going to feel bad about making fun of you and your overreactions. And last night they were in the same arena that chanted those horrible things towards the Divas the night after Wrestlemania so they’re not exactly known to be the classiest bunch. The same ones who fume when Cena wins or Daniel Bryan loses, are usually the same ones who laugh at the reaction shots of people when Cena loses. *Cena loses and reaction shots of people upset* "Hahahahaha those people are hilarious taking things too seriously!" *Daniel Bryan gets eliminated in the Rumble, people flip their shit, and others find it amusing* "Yeah! Heaven forbid we get upset when someone we like doesn't win!!!"
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 4, 2015 18:06:11 GMT -5
I strongly suspect this people won't chant "You broke Kidd's neck" at Samoa Joe. I get people hating Cena but it was totally crass to cheer for someone getting seriously injured. That is pass "I hate John Cena the wrestler/character" and moved into "I hate John Cena the person" territory. Which is dangerous because it will inspire nutjobs to actually try to harm him to prove their hate towards him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 18:22:17 GMT -5
I don't see the fans chanting that as any worse than WWE using the incident as a way for Rollins to get some heat.
I mean, they put out a shirt to make money off of Cena's busted face. You can never say for sure, but Cena likely doesn't give a shit, seeing as how the shirt hasn't been pulled yet.
Just...quit trying to class up pro wrestling and its fans. I see people try to do this a lot on FAN. This biz refers to its fans as marks, as in, the marks of a con game. There's some natural sleaze involved in being a fan of this company. Embrace the sleaze.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Aug 4, 2015 20:04:45 GMT -5
Vince didn't listen when we cheered Cena tearing his tit and dropping the belt, he didn't listen when we cheered Bootista breaking his neck, he didn't listen when we cheered his arm muscles dinging off and giving us 3 months of no Cena (that they deliberately made awful just so they could justify his place in the unification match) and he won't listen now.
Oh yeah, and I guess cheering stuff like Brock "Biggest Villain Ever" Lesnar running murder.exe counts too
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 21:24:58 GMT -5
Even just a broken nose I might have joined in, but given he was admitted back into hospital because of breathing problems... yeah not cool. And yet, he's due back by months end, if not sooner. THAT is prolly why a lot people were chanting. They just want Cena gone away for a while, or just out of the main event picture -- let others have the spotlight. Not cheering his specific injury, just the fact that's he's MIA for a change.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 4, 2015 21:27:24 GMT -5
Even just a broken nose I might have joined in, but given he was admitted back into hospital because of breathing problems... yeah not cool. And yet, he's due back by months end, if not sooner. THAT is prolly why a lot people were chanting. They just want Cena gone away for a while, or just out of the main event picture -- let others have the spotlight. Not cheering his specific injury, just the fact that's he's MIA for a change. And WWE gave them that. Otherwise he wouldn't have been United States Champion for all these months.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 4, 2015 21:33:45 GMT -5
And yet, he's due back by months end, if not sooner. THAT is prolly why a lot people were chanting. They just want Cena gone away for a while, or just out of the main event picture -- let others have the spotlight. Not cheering his specific injury, just the fact that's he's MIA for a change. And WWE gave them that. Otherwise he wouldn't have been United States Champion for all these months. Yeah but they took Cena out of the main event picture and retained the Authority. So, not much was gained.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Aug 4, 2015 21:36:50 GMT -5
I said some incredibly stupid things, that I still feel terrible about, in response to Cena pinning Owens. But I was a bit taken aback by the fans thanking Rollins for legitimately disfiguring and putting a guy in the hospital.
Maybe there's something to be said about WWE folks not using their real names. When we endlessly complain about Kane and Big Show, for example, we're obviously talking about their *characters*. Few people have anything bad to say about Glenn Jacobs or Paul Wight. That distinction is less clear for a guy like John Cena, who performs in WWE under the name "John Cena".
"John Cena" the character has to take time off because the nefarious Seth Rollins tried to end his career.
John Cena, the person with a social security number, can't be on TV or participate in his usual charity work because he needs reconstructive surgery and several other medical procedures to fix a broken nose and correct breathing problems.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 4, 2015 21:39:36 GMT -5
And WWE gave them that. Otherwise he wouldn't have been United States Champion for all these months. Yeah but they took Cena out of the main event picture and retained the Authority. So, not much was gained. I agree that The Authority shouldn't take up so much screen time, but their presence is what made WWE comfortable with dialing Cena back in the first place. Without the Authority, the company isn't comfortable with putting the belt on Rollins.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 4, 2015 21:43:35 GMT -5
Yeah but they took Cena out of the main event picture and retained the Authority. So, not much was gained. I agree that The Authority shouldn't take up so much screen time, but their presence is what made WWE comfortable with dialing Cena back in the first place. Without the Authority, the company isn't comfortable with putting the belt on Rollins. How would they know? He's been with the Authority in some way shape or form since he won the title. It's only now he's on his own, and he's already scored points with much of the audience for taking out Cena, regardless of the morality of such enthusiasm.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 4, 2015 21:46:23 GMT -5
I agree that The Authority shouldn't take up so much screen time, but their presence is what made WWE comfortable with dialing Cena back in the first place. Without the Authority, the company isn't comfortable with putting the belt on Rollins. How would they know? He's been with the Authority in some way shape or form since he won the title. It's only now he's on his own, and he's already scored points with much of the audience for taking out Cena, regardless of the morality of such enthusiasm. They don't and they're too scared to try. Trips and Steph being off TV is probably the reason he's feuding with Cena again in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 21:46:30 GMT -5
They hate Cena. That's WWE fault. They've created that hostility. Exactly this.
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Post by r. on Aug 4, 2015 21:51:28 GMT -5
Also think it's a long overdue wake up call. The problem is Vince still won't listen. I mean...what is it going to take to get the hint that a large portion of the audience doesn't enjoy the booking of Cena? A drop in merch sales and not even then. Cena is Vince's avatar, I believe Vince lives vicariously through cena, this big muscle bound all american, patriotic guy who makes cornball jokes only Vince finds funny along with being a walking ad for wweshop.com For all purposes he is Vince's new Hulk hogan with, likely, 1/5th of the backstage attitude. Also he's going to hold two belts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 0:33:48 GMT -5
It's getting to the point that Cena could literally die in a car crash and the next Raw is a Cena Tribute Show and there will be a loud small minority of people chanting "Thank You Car Crash."
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Post by basicdugganomix on Aug 5, 2015 0:41:14 GMT -5
That flying knee from the clinch should be his finish
It's a good finish he can hit on everybody and they can put it over as a match ender.
Flying knees are over in mma, they will be over inwwe
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Post by edgehead on Aug 5, 2015 0:52:26 GMT -5
They released a shirt within the week that says "You Can't See Knee" and Rollins showed photos of the incident. I just thought the crowd was responding since it was obviously being worked into the angle.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 5, 2015 2:04:00 GMT -5
The company is using it in storyline, the crowd can too.
Heck, most of the crowd probably know nothing about it other than "last week Cena had an injury" they don't know about the hospital or anything, and they have be trained to see injuries that are used in story as ya know, part of the story.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 5, 2015 5:26:45 GMT -5
Besides it being a crass move to cheer for Cena's nose nearly getting murked, it kills the important heel heat Rollins need while trying to become an important cog in the WWE machine. When Piper clunked Snuka upside the head with a coconut, folks reacted like he stomped on a puppy. When Greg Valentine broke Wahoo McDaniels' leg, he got death threats. Terry Funk choked out Ric Flair with a plastic bag and the arena police had to stop the crowd from rioting. Flash forward to current times and those actions will make you a fan fave unless you attack someone like Lesnar or Bryan. Rollins was going for the old school NWA super heel heat and got greeted with Attitude era "being bad is so cool" heat which is not his goal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 6:31:52 GMT -5
Besides it being a crass move to cheer for Cena's nose nearly getting murked, it kills the important heel heat Rollins need while trying to become an important cog in the WWE machine. When Piper clunked Snuka upside the head with a coconut, folks reacted like he stomped on a puppy. When Greg Valentine broke Wahoo McDaniels' leg, he got death threats. Terry Funk choked out Ric Flair with a plastic bag and the arena police had to stop the crowd from rioting. Flash forward to current times and those actions will make you a fan fave unless you attack someone like Lesnar or Bryan. Rollins was going for the old school NWA super heel heat and got greeted with Attitude era "being bad is so cool" heat which is not his goal. This isn't something you can blame the crowd for, though. Times have changed. Cena is utterly lame as a character to basically everyone over the age of 10, and cheering the heels has been a widespread trend in wrestling since about 1996. Christ, in NXT Kevin Owens is basically the most vile son of a bitch on the planet, and intentionally wrestles a boring, methodical style, and he gets massive cheers. The business just isn't the same as it used to be.
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