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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 12:16:42 GMT -5
Another lost classic. Was Kane RED HOT at this point, people could've bought him as Champion? So I've missed Kane, Hardy and Punk to the poll. Damn.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Aug 16, 2015 12:18:09 GMT -5
Booker T was one big win away from being a very fresh, very new, very popular face that WWE badly needed in 2003. By far, he was the worst one for Trips to defeat.
Goldberg is a close second, because beating Trips at Elimination Chamber could have thoroughly re-established him as a WWE commodity and may have put him in a position where he would have stuck around.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 16, 2015 12:19:42 GMT -5
I hate the "Booker T should have won" retrospective, because Booker was basically a midcarder. It should be "Triple H shouldnt have said that" instead, as the angle is the only reason thats ever brought up, not because Booker was super popular or anything at that period. Goldberg should have won the title in the Elimination Chamber. And a win would have elevated Booker from the midcard, while a loss left him looking like absolute crap, far worse than when he went in.
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 16, 2015 12:19:38 GMT -5
I've held a grudge ever since he beat Austin clean in 2001 in the Three Stages of Hell match.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 12:24:30 GMT -5
Booker T was one big win away from being a very fresh, very new, very popular face that WWE badly needed in 2003. By far, he was the worst one for Trips to defeat. Goldberg is a close second, because beating Trips at Elimination Chamber could have thoroughly re-established him as a WWE commodity and may have put him in a position where he would have stuck around. This would be like Lesnar pinning Taker in terms of restoring an Aura around the guy. He was pretty damaged up to that point as his feuds with Jericho and HHH up to that point weren't helping, since they made him look like a tool for the most part.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 16, 2015 12:27:00 GMT -5
Punk
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 12:29:32 GMT -5
I've held a grudge ever since he beat Austin clean in 2001 in the Three Stages of Hell match. He won because it was suppose to lead to Mike Tyson vs. Triple H at Wrestlemania X-7.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 16, 2015 12:36:32 GMT -5
Sting by a country mile.
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Post by chronocross on Aug 16, 2015 12:37:22 GMT -5
There's more to it than Trips spitting out racial slurs. They hyped the heck out of Booker, making him look like a legit threat to Triple H. The Rock was being used to put Booker over a decade before Roman Reigns! And for Trips to win in such one sided manner on a show where it took Austin and Hogan multiple tries to put their opponents away and then not have Booker get any heat back wasp ute burial. I remember this. Wasn't Rock going to lose to Hurricane or something, to put him over, but once HHH got a hold of this, Rock backed out, because he KNEW HHH was going to squash Hurricane to make Rock look weak. So we get Booker elminating Rock instead. That Rock guy, what a selfless dude. HHH..... not so much. I guess Rock never remembers that HHH wanted to bury him in 1997, but having Bret Hart win the Intercontinental Title from him. Rock lost to Hurricane, but HHH beat him the night after WM19, it wasn't the squash match most were saying it was but still. Rock was advertised to face Booker.T two weeks before Mania, but when he heard they were having HHH go over, he didn't want any part of it.
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Post by TGM on Aug 16, 2015 13:09:31 GMT -5
Orton in 2009.
Say what you want about the Booker match, but Orton was probably at his absolute hottest in 2009 and that match was a joke.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 16, 2015 13:22:34 GMT -5
Orton. Neutered him coming out of Evolution. Sure they put the title on him to early but still a one month reign aftee beating Benoit was shameful.
Wrestlemania 25 ugh let's forget that ever happened
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 16, 2015 14:02:58 GMT -5
Booker is easily the most egregious. Much as I am a WCW and Sting mark, you don't bring race into an angle unless the racist jobs out at the end.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 16, 2015 14:34:21 GMT -5
I voted Van Dam. The circumstances of some of these are worse, like the Booker angle leading to WM. But really I never viewed Booker T. as anyone that was a serious top tier level worker on a consistent basis, whereas I think with any semblance of WWE backing RVD could have been the top star in the company during that dreary 2002-04 time period. Some of these guys don't really belong on the list since HHH did eventually job to them (Goldberg, Orton, Lesnar, even Angle). Besides, even if Booker wins at WM he jobs right back a month later so they can build HHH/Goldberg.
So yes, while the way HHH beat Van Dam didn't especially bury RVD (Flair turned heel) it was the way that feud and the aftermath was booked that seriously cooled off RVD after Van Dam had been probably the most over full time guy in the company for most of 2002.
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Post by Clawley Race on Aug 16, 2015 15:45:07 GMT -5
Everyone talks about how hot/over everyone that faced HHH was, especially during the reign of terror. What is the common denominator in all of those feuds?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 15:53:55 GMT -5
Everyone talks about how hot/over everyone that faced HHH was, especially during the reign of terror. What is the common denominator in all of those feuds? HHH was threatened by them all? And did not want to lose his spot.
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Post by TheFadedSpade on Aug 16, 2015 15:59:19 GMT -5
RVD back then CM Punk more recently.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 16, 2015 16:18:34 GMT -5
Booker, by far.
HHH squashed him so hard that people forget just how over he actually was, "Oh, he was just another midcarder..."
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Post by Clawley Race on Aug 16, 2015 16:18:38 GMT -5
Everyone talks about how hot/over everyone that faced HHH was, especially during the reign of terror. What is the common denominator in all of those feuds? HHH was threatened by them all? And did not want to lose his spot. You don't get faces that over without a great heel.
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Post by Sephiroth on Aug 16, 2015 16:21:54 GMT -5
HHH was threatened by them all? And did not want to lose his spot. You don't get faces that over without a great heel. Except at some point re face kind of has to go over or else the formula gets stale really fast.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Aug 16, 2015 16:22:32 GMT -5
HHH was threatened by them all? And did not want to lose his spot. You don't get faces that over without a great heel. You do because HHH wasn't a great heel. Do you think he pointed to himself putting over DB as why he should go over Sting?
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