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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Oct 4, 2015 11:41:35 GMT -5
According to Nash he came up with the short order cook promo on Punk because of frustration, like Punk had been killing him on the promos every week and the writers weren't offering anything to Nash. Which is rich, considering Nash CONSTANTLY verbally buried other wrestlers as a heel in WCW with virtually no payback for his comments. Arn Anderson parody anyone? I also remember him saying "that security wasn't for my benefit, it was for Punk's, you know I would have killed him!" He and Trips are cut from the same cloth. He kinda got a receipt for the Arn Anderson promo, Arn hit him with a steel pipe really stiff lol.
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Post by Marty McFry on Oct 4, 2015 14:19:04 GMT -5
The ironic thing about this is, if Punk signed for WWE during the current 'HHH is the father of NXT' era, he would be seen as a Triple H guy and everyone would be worried about how Vince will book him when he gets called up.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 4, 2015 16:41:03 GMT -5
The summer of Punk was botched when Punk returned just two weeks after leaving. After that, it was one shitty development after another.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Oct 4, 2015 16:51:38 GMT -5
The summer of Punk was botched when Punk returned just two weeks after leaving. After that, it was one shitty development after another. Specially when they had a new champion by the next week of him leaving, and the infamous part where cena challenged rey mysterio the same night when he won the belt
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 4, 2015 17:55:27 GMT -5
Punk was never close to being a mainstream star, lol. I'm not sure how that got started but that's really not even close to being true. There was hype for the initial pipebomb angle but peak interest lasted, at most, a few weeks. Don't get me wrong, COULD he have been a top guy on the level of a John Cena with lots of time and careful booking? Sure, he had the following to do so. But, it's not like he was about to break through that mainstream ceiling and WWE stopped him. It was a white hot wrestling angle that should have been a slam dunk that WWE managed to screw up, probably because some people at the top flat out didn't want it succeed. If that's not the case, that means they actually thought this Nash nonsense was a good way to help the storyline which is just absurd from every angle. But, whatever the case is, they f***ed up. He wasn't close, no, but he might have been able to get there. However, I don't think he would have stayed there. His abrasiveness and desire to drag people's real-life skeletons through the mud would have turned a lot of the mainstream off. He'd have stayed on top of WWE for at least 3-4 years, though. He always made me think of HHH, the way he liked to go for everyone else's throat (except, strangely enough, Cena's) to put himself on top.
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Post by moondoggie on Oct 4, 2015 21:06:00 GMT -5
This is the sound your knees make when they walk. Click. Click. Click.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Oct 4, 2015 21:14:29 GMT -5
The summer of Punk was botched when Punk returned just two weeks after leaving. After that, it was one shitty development after another. Specially when they had a new champion by the next week of him leaving, and the infamous part where cena challenged rey mysterio the same night when he won the belt That always seemed super rushed. Mysterio/Cena should've been at Summerslam and Punk returns there.
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Post by somsta on Oct 4, 2015 21:28:26 GMT -5
I just realized that in a two year span, Punk lost to Triple H, Rock, and Taker. It's like he was the sacrificial jobber to the almighty Attitude Era.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 5, 2015 1:31:58 GMT -5
Specially when they had a new champion by the next week of him leaving, and the infamous part where cena challenged rey mysterio the same night when he won the belt That always seemed super rushed. Mysterio/Cena should've been at Summerslam and Punk returns there. Forget about that, the whole tournament was booked strange. Miz gets injured at Money in the Bank, he gets the returning hero spot in the match where it was shown he wasn't faking the injury, Chicago went nuts for it and booed Mysterio when he stopped Miz, the following night Miz on one leg gets to the finals of the tournament, and he does all this as a heel, they decide to postpone the finals a week, Mysterio wins, and the Miz face push that was a no brainer gets thrown out. The logical storyline for that would have been Miz winning, and Bertie cashing in on an injured Miz. It's like there were 5 different people booking the WWE Title scene at that time, and instead of coming up with 1 plan, they all had different ones and WWE ran with parts of each one.
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Post by Renslayer on Oct 5, 2015 1:49:11 GMT -5
The summer of Punk was botched when Punk returned just two weeks after leaving. After that, it was one shitty development after another. Man, if they held Mysterio vs Cena for Summerslam & gave it a proper build, it would've been spectacular. You could bring Punk back then & go from there. Sigh, they messed everything up
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Post by BigWill on Oct 5, 2015 10:21:10 GMT -5
Yeah, had they actually followed up that chaos it would have been different but nobody looked good. Had they followed the whole "How are Awesome Truth always able to get past security? How are they able to get into the building?" it would have been different. Also: "How are Awesome Truth, on their own, scaring a roster of around 100 fit people into quitting their job?" This part was especially amusing because this was the same time that Mark Henry was doing his whole "Hall of Pain" angle, yet it's Awesome Truth that everyone seems to be scared of.
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Post by gr1990 on Oct 5, 2015 11:28:32 GMT -5
The ironic thing about this is, if Punk signed for WWE during the current 'HHH is the father of NXT' era, he would be seen as a Triple H guy and everyone would be worried about how Vince will book him when he gets called up. To honest though, Punk being Punk, he probably wouldn't want to play the NXT game (no pun intended) and embrace the whole 'Triple H is a revolutionary genius' culture and so probably wouldn't last long. He'd be another Chris Hero, too openly critical of and unwilling to listen to management to stay the course. He only made it through OVW unscathed thanks to Heyman after all.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Oct 5, 2015 11:34:38 GMT -5
I just realized that in a two year span, Punk lost to Triple H, Rock, and Taker. It's like he was the sacrificial jobber to the almighty Attitude Era. At least he got to lose to main eventers. Seth Rollins and Daniel Bryan had to take losses from f***ing Local Man Kane.
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Post by revolver86 on Oct 5, 2015 11:38:14 GMT -5
Watching those videos makes me miss Punk
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 5, 2015 11:39:23 GMT -5
Specially when they had a new champion by the next week of him leaving, and the infamous part where cena challenged rey mysterio the same night when he won the belt That always seemed super rushed. Mysterio/Cena should've been at Summerslam and Punk returns there. I believe they rushed it at least partially because a very vocal section of the audience were wondering why Punk didn't show up the night after Money in the Bank.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Oct 5, 2015 12:44:11 GMT -5
The summer of Punk was botched when Punk returned just two weeks after leaving. After that, it was one shitty development after another. Specially when they had a new champion by the next week of him leaving, and the infamous part where cena challenged rey mysterio the same night when he won the belt The mind-numbing aspect here was when Punk came to defend his rushed return with "well, Summerslam needed a main-event". Now, imagine instead, hypothetically, there were two super-established, top-line babyfaces who were free to feud. Now, imagine again, that these two babyfaces had been kept relatively separate on different brands for a prolonged period. Yup, they had that in Cena and Mysterio. It was given away for free. Imagine if it'd been hyped for a few weeks and the Punk's return came centre-stage at Summerslam. Punk gets a few weeks off, we get a modern icon vs modern icon main-event and we're saved, for a little while, from the forthcoming convolution.
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Post by Rican on Oct 5, 2015 13:24:29 GMT -5
I still can't believe this is a thing that really happened. To be a fly on the wall when the whole thing was pitched.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 5, 2015 23:04:28 GMT -5
Looking back on this, I am convinced that this was the absolute last time that WWE allowed any in-ring talent any leeway on how they cut promos or managed a build the way CM Punk did. Even Daniel Bryan's rise to the top, driven by fans, still had to settle for the vehicle that WWE chose to give it. There was little such control over Punk in that sense.
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Post by Hiryu on Oct 6, 2015 3:30:55 GMT -5
RVD, Booker T, Kane and now Punk.
Sure, all these stars that Triple H buried got theirs eventually, however, he came along and killed their steam when they were white hot and should have become megastars.
This is why I will always hate big nose.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Oct 6, 2015 4:30:17 GMT -5
I still can't believe this is a thing that really happened. To be a fly on the wall when the whole thing was pitched. I like to picture it with Hunter as Malory and Punk as Sterling Archer.
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