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Post by brody on Mar 31, 2016 11:05:43 GMT -5
According to the LA times, OJ paid his Dream Team around 5 million dollars, and California spent around 9 million on trying him.
Did Cochran have any other super high profile cases?
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Post by fw91 on Mar 31, 2016 11:48:51 GMT -5
Did Cochran have any other super high profile cases? He sure did. There was a record company that stole the rights illegally of a song called "stinky britches" written and performed by Jerome "Chef" Mcilroy. Cochran used his famous chewbacca defense and not only did the record label get off. Chef went to jail! But check this out after a touching concert in support of chef by artist such as Rancid, Ozzy Osbourne and Elton John, Cochran had a change of heart and defended Chef for free. He got Chef his song back by using the same defense he used to put him away. he was that good
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 22:08:02 GMT -5
What I've gotten from this less "Johnny is a schemer who doesn't care about OJ" and more "Johnny cared more about exposing the corruption and racism of the LAPD than he did about this murder case."
I would argue the scene with his wife, the "imperfect vessel" bit pretty much spells it out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 22:44:32 GMT -5
According to the LA times, OJ paid his Dream Team around 5 million dollars, and California spent around 9 million on trying him. Did Cochran have any other super high profile cases? He represented P. Diddy in his stolen weapons and bribery charge, got him off those too.
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Post by Renslayer on Apr 5, 2016 22:46:40 GMT -5
Thought the show started of on a weak note, but it ended really strongly. They got all the reactions right tonight & it had me wanting a follow-up that focuses on the civil trial & Rob's deteriorating relationship with OJ.
Also, I would totally watch a show that focused on OJ getting himself 33 years for stealing his own shit.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 6, 2016 10:54:50 GMT -5
Final episode was damn good. I loved how they sort of show how wrong Bobby was saying "[OJ] will always be The Juice" sort of showing how he went from being the "Mayor of Brentwood" to being the man who got away with murder and how the murders and the trial afterward completely changed how the world looked at OJ Simpson. I think the part with the waiter was a little on the nose, though.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Apr 6, 2016 12:58:50 GMT -5
The pit in my stomach before the verdict was read was something else. This show did a tremendous job at making you feel the actual tension of each moment.
My only problem with the finale was it had too many spots where it could have ended. I know we started on Simpson, but they should have just ended it on the Goldmans in their car. The thirty minute epilogue wasn't necessary. The final was superb otherwise. I really loved the "Where are they now?" montage at the end. It was a classy move by the staff to show Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman right at the end, making sure they were the final image of the show.
Overall, a great show that ambushed me. I don't know how or why the creators think they should do Hurricane Katrina next season when there wasn't a major crime involved, but I'd love to see them do other cases in the future like Jon Benet Ramsey and the Oklahoma City bombing.
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Post by cageking666 on Apr 6, 2016 13:07:08 GMT -5
The pit in my stomach before the verdict was read was something else. This show did a tremendous job at making you feel the actual tension of each moment. My only problem with the finale was it had too many spots where it could have ended. I know we started on Simpson, but they should have just ended it on the Goldmans in their car. The thirty minute epilogue wasn't necessary. The final was superb otherwise. I really loved the "Where are they now?" montage at the end. It was a classy move by the staff to show Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman right at the end, making sure they were the final image of the show. Overall, a great show that ambushed me. I don't know how or why the creators think they should do Hurricane Katrina next season when there wasn't a major crime involved, but I'd love to see them do other cases in the future like Jon Benet Ramsey and the Oklahoma City bombing. A) I think they're only doing Katrina as a crime against America if that makes sense B) Personally i would absolutely love to see them do the Scot and Lacey Peterson
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 6, 2016 13:15:00 GMT -5
Looking forward to watching the finale tonight. I've also liked watching Harvey Levin's recaps on the TMZ youtube page. As a lawyer and as some who covered the case he's perspective is interesting to see. Sadly he hasn't done one for the last two episodes.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Apr 6, 2016 17:40:33 GMT -5
You've gotta give Courtney Vance and Sarah Paulson the Emmy for sure. Hell, give them an Oscar and a few Slammys
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Apr 6, 2016 18:18:38 GMT -5
You've gotta give Courtney Vance and Sarah Pauson the Emmy for sure. Hell, give them an Oscar and a few Slammys Don't wish that upon them. They did a good job on the show, don't make them sit through an episode of Raw.
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Post by BRV on Apr 6, 2016 18:39:37 GMT -5
Alleged, but never proven. If the interpretation of this show of Cockran is accurate, he wanted to genuinely expose the LAPD's racism. That scene with his wife in their bedroom, if it truly played out that way, made that very clear. Not to mention how he interacted with O.J. I didn't get the sense from when he decided to take the case onward that he felt he was guilty. He was out to defend whom he thought was an innocent man. I'm sure Cochran was a flawed man, but had the LAPD not had cops like Furhman there would be no platform for Cochran to stand. He was a defense attorney out to do his job. I don't believe he should be vilified for that. Furhman on the other hand was definitely a scumbag and deserved to be vilified. But you also have to remember the powder keg that was Los Angeles in 1995. The city was three years removed from the Rodney King riots, racial unrest was still percolating, and there was a major divide on almost all levels between white and black Angelenos. Johnnie Cochran saw that and capitalized on that to advance his case and his celebrity. Cochran's press conferences toward the end of the trial were essentially him standing over a pool of gasoline while holding a match and saying, "if the jury finds OJ guilty, I'm dropping the match." He was essentially inciting a riot that had yet to occur. Above all else, that was and forever will be my biggest problem with Cochran. Yes, he was a fame whore and yes he cared more about his own celebrity and self-interest than he did whether OJ Simpson was guilty, but above all else, he profited off of the racism that he claimed he was trying to vanquish. He made millions off of dividing populations and increasing racial tension and he did it under the guise that he wanted equality. He saw the tension in Los Angeles in 1995 and saw nothing but a chance to increase the worth of his name, his firm, and his personal brand.
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Post by fw91 on Apr 6, 2016 18:44:36 GMT -5
You've gotta give Courtney Vance and Sarah Pauson the Emmy for sure. Hell, give them an Oscar and a few Slammys Sterling K Brown deserves some love too.
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Post by BRV on Apr 6, 2016 19:47:57 GMT -5
You've gotta give Courtney Vance and Sarah Pauson the Emmy for sure. Hell, give them an Oscar and a few Slammys Sterling K Brown deserves some love too. Outside of John Travolta hamming it up and Cuba Gooding Jr. acting like somebody just woke him up 30 seconds ago, the whole cast has been phenomenal. Over the weekend, Esquire Network aired a 12-hour marathon called "The Real O.J. Trial", showing courtroom highlights and testimony from the actual 1995 trial. And it just goes to show how uncanny some of the performances were. Sarah Paulson as Marcia Clark, Courtney B. Vance as Johnnie Cochran, Sterling K. Brown as Christopher Darden, Nathan Lane as F. Lee Bailey, David Schwimmer as Robert Kardashian, Kenneth Choi as Lance Ito, Joseph Siravo as Fred Goldman, Rob Morrow as Barry Scheck, Steven Pasquale as Mark Fuhrman ... they all hit it out of the park. It was one of the finest cast, most phenomenally acted series you'll ever see in television.
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Post by fw91 on Apr 6, 2016 19:55:07 GMT -5
Choi looked just like Ito
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Apr 6, 2016 20:19:30 GMT -5
You've gotta give Courtney Vance and Sarah Pauson the Emmy for sure. Hell, give them an Oscar and a few Slammys Sterling K Brown deserves some love too. I was glad to see the praise for Sterling K. Brown picking up starting around the episode with his near hookup with Marcia and the gloves. There were a ton of great performances on the show, both big and small, but I think Brown ended up stealing the whole thing. From the beginning episodes before he was even on the prosecution, just discussing the insanity of the whole thing during the Bronco chase with his neighbors to his sweet but kinda awkward first flirtations with Marcia to his rage finally boiling over in the outstanding "Manna From Heaven" to his quiet rejection of Johnnie's victory in the finale, the guy just nailed every scene he was in.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Apr 6, 2016 20:23:40 GMT -5
I liked the bit in the episode about the Fuhrman tapes and they mention how the screenwriter who interviewed him (Laura Hart-McKinny) was teaching screenwriting in North Carolina. Which inspired the line “How can you teach screenwriting if you can’t sell a script?” Which you gotta think the writer(s) of that episode ("Manna from Heaven") have panic attacks thinking about how thT could have been them if they never caught a break in Hollywood.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Apr 6, 2016 21:30:47 GMT -5
So last week my mom was talking to my dad about last week's episode. I made the comment, "Yeah, next week he's not guilty." To which she replied, "What?!? Not guilty?!? I thought he was guilty!" And then was mad at me for spoiling it because she genuinely didn't remember what the verdict was.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Apr 8, 2016 17:04:16 GMT -5
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Post by brody on Apr 9, 2016 5:35:24 GMT -5
Fuhrman and Nicole Brown Simpson had possible romantic ties. Cochran brought it up during the trial. Never knew that one.
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