agent817
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Post by agent817 on Feb 28, 2016 22:42:11 GMT -5
So I was told by a couple of female friends that referring to them as "honey" or "woman" as the female equivalent of saying "dude," "dog," "homie" or "man" is sexist. I mean it like when I say something, for example, like, "Dude, I know what you mean," or "Dog, you told me this." Now towards a couple of female friends, I have said something in the past like "Honey, you got it all wrong." I didn't call her honey because she is my girlfriend, by the way. I have also said "woman," and another female friend told me that is derogatory. What do you think?
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Post by Jiren on Feb 28, 2016 22:57:08 GMT -5
I don't think so, Mind everything is sexist nowadays.
You can't even sneeze without someone screaming sexism
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Post by BigBadZ on Feb 28, 2016 23:01:43 GMT -5
Just use "baby girl"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 23:11:48 GMT -5
So I was told by a couple of female friends that referring to them as "honey" or "woman" as the female equivalent of saying "dude," "dog," "homie" or "man" is sexist. I mean it like when I say something, for example, like, "Dude, I know what you mean," or "Dog, you told me this." Now towards a couple of female friends, I have said something in the past like "Honey, you got it all wrong." I didn't call her honey because she is my girlfriend, by the way. I have also said "woman," and another female friend told me that is derogatory. What do you think? I think I feel sorry for the easily offended girl's bfs or husbands (yikes).
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Post by Dub H on Feb 28, 2016 23:13:19 GMT -5
Honey i can UNDERSTAND.
But Woman? That is literally what she is.But anyway,if they don't like,dont use with then. But it is not sexist.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 28, 2016 23:14:53 GMT -5
I don't think so, Mind everything is sexist nowadays. You can't even sneeze without someone screaming sexism
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 23:18:13 GMT -5
Honey is, yeah. It's like saying sweetie, or sugar, or sweetheart.
Woman is a weird one. It could easily be the equivalent of man. However, it can also come off as sexist if it's used in the context of telling them to do something or telling them they're dumb or they're wrong, and implying it's because they're a woman. It's more based on historical sexism than any modern intent, most of the time. There's instances when there's a subconscious intent too, always debatable of course.
As someone who likes to use "dude" or "man" in conversation, there really isn't an equivalent I call girls.
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Post by Unaffiliated on Feb 28, 2016 23:25:00 GMT -5
Context, intent and manner of delivery have more bearing on whether it's sexist than the words themselves.
In general, I don't see anything wrong with using those words.
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Post by agent817 on Feb 28, 2016 23:27:01 GMT -5
Honey is, yeah. It's like saying sweetie, or sugar, or sweetheart. Woman is a weird one. It could easily be the equivalent of man. However, it can also come off as sexist if it's used in the context of telling them to do something or telling them they're dumb or they're wrong, and implying it's because they're a woman. It's more based on historical sexism than any modern intent, most of the time. There's instances when there's a subconscious intent too, always debatable of course. As someone who likes to use "dude" or "man" in conversation, there really isn't an equivalent I call girls. Well, this is an example of saying woman: Anyway, talk about saying "dude," I never liked the term "dudette." Of course, that was just something that never caught on and I mainly heard that on "Step By Step" from the character, Cody. Of course, when I also say homie, I rarely use homeboy, and I don't know if I would use homegirl in that context.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 23:33:48 GMT -5
Honey is, yeah. It's like saying sweetie, or sugar, or sweetheart. Woman is a weird one. It could easily be the equivalent of man. However, it can also come off as sexist if it's used in the context of telling them to do something or telling them they're dumb or they're wrong, and implying it's because they're a woman. It's more based on historical sexism than any modern intent, most of the time. There's instances when there's a subconscious intent too, always debatable of course. As someone who likes to use "dude" or "man" in conversation, there really isn't an equivalent I call girls. Well, this is an example of saying woman: Anyway, talk about saying "dude," I never liked the term "dudette." Of course, that was just something that never caught on and I mainly heard that on "Step By Step" from the character, Cody. Of course, when I also say homie, I rarely use homeboy, and I don't know if I would use homegirl in that context. Same, dudette is an awful word, and I too heavily associate it with Cody. There's an issue here, us dudes need something to call our female friends. There is one word in chick, but it can't be used like dude or man.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 23:47:24 GMT -5
Yes.
Honey, woman, babe, sweetcheeks, doll, chick, baby, sweetie, sweetheart, good-lookin, sexy, girl (to an adult).
Unless you're VERY familiar with someone, that shit is sexist and patronizing.
I just call everyone dude or man, no matter the gender. When I say "aw man," "dude, no way" I'm not specifically saying, "Hey person who is of the male gender." Its just a generic term for another person, unless you want to be a literal jerk about it.
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Post by Sparkybob on Feb 28, 2016 23:49:38 GMT -5
Call them by their names or just use hey or what sup to avoid offending an individual.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 29, 2016 0:12:32 GMT -5
No, but if they take exception to it, don't do it.
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Post by Crimson on Feb 29, 2016 0:17:20 GMT -5
If they have made it known that they'd prefer not to be referred to that way, then yeah out of respect I would avoid it, at least when you are talking to them specifically..
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Post by Display Name on Feb 29, 2016 0:25:06 GMT -5
Don't you know that everything you do or say is wrong in 2016?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 0:30:43 GMT -5
Sometimes you have to
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 29, 2016 0:34:25 GMT -5
If it's not someone who's already acknowledged that they're perfectly fine with it, then yeah, it kinda is.
It's not something especially heinous, and I'm sure most guys who use it aren't doing it out of maliciousness, but I do agree it's kinda patronizing and I tend to avoid it in formal settings.
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Post by Larryhausen on Feb 29, 2016 0:46:57 GMT -5
I have seriously never met anyone ever in life who is remotely like this.
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Post by twiggy101 on Feb 29, 2016 1:02:40 GMT -5
You know, I wouldn't like it if you call me "honey" or "woman".
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Post by Heartbreaker on Feb 29, 2016 1:10:05 GMT -5
Honey, woman, babe, sweetcheeks, doll, chick, baby, sweetie, sweetheart, good-lookin, sexy, girl (to an adult). Unless you're VERY familiar with someone, that shit is sexist and patronizing. Yeah, I really would not be comfortable with anyone calling me those. Seems a bit uncomfortable and creepy. However, when it comes to my boyfriend it's an entirely different situation.
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