Superman = egotistical jerk.

[A Platypus Rave]

Mar 8, 2016 19:17:35 GMT -5 Bub (BLM) said:

That whole "Clark is Superman's view of humanity" thing originated with Quinten Tarantino and it's completely off-base. The idea is that Clark be someone you could just never suspect is a hero. It's the same reason Bruce Wayne acts like a complete putz in public.

Superman to me is one of the most likeable heroes in all of fiction. You watch Christopher Reeve as the character and you wish he were real because the world needs someone like that. I find comic and movie fans who hate Superman to be overly cynical most of the time. Just my 2 cents.

Clark Kent is Superman.

Clark Acts like a farm boy from Kansas because he IS a Farm Boy from Kansas.

To quote one of the few scenes in Man of Steel that I actually liked. "I grew up in Kansas I'm as American as you can get"



He never knew anyone on Krypton, it was destroyed when he was a baby.

Pa and Ma Kent are the ones that gave him his moral code, and raised him up to instill his love of humanity.

The Kents are his parents.

To quote probably the only scene from MoS that got anything right with Pa.

Clark: "I just want to be your son"
Pa: "You ARE my son"

Of course they ruin that by not actually having him be his moral conscience and not even getting the point of him dying (which is that Superman CAN'T save everyone... ruined becuase Superman can save one guy from a tornado)... but there's that one scene.

[The Ichi]

Mar 9, 2016 3:29:33 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

OP is clearly joking and you're all taking it way too serious. When I saw this thread title I was immediately like oh no not another "babyface is actually the heel thread" but this caught me off guard and made me laugh. Good job OP. If anything OP is satirizing these kind of threads.

"Jokes on them I was just pretending to be stupid!".

Can we stop doing this, people?

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Mar 9, 2016 9:28:57 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

Mar 8, 2016 19:17:35 GMT -5 Bub (BLM) said:

That whole "Clark is Superman's view of humanity" thing originated with Quinten Tarantino and it's completely off-base. The idea is that Clark be someone you could just never suspect is a hero. It's the same reason Bruce Wayne acts like a complete putz in public.

Superman to me is one of the most likeable heroes in all of fiction. You watch Christopher Reeve as the character and you wish he were real because the world needs someone like that. I find comic and movie fans who hate Superman to be overly cynical most of the time. Just my 2 cents.

Clark Kent is Superman.

Clark Acts like a farm boy from Kansas because he IS a Farm Boy from Kansas.

To quote one of the few scenes in Man of Steel that I actually liked. "I grew up in Kansas I'm as American as you can get"



He never knew anyone on Krypton, it was destroyed when he was a baby.

Pa and Ma Kent are the ones that gave him his moral code, and raised him up to instill his love of humanity.

In some was though, he's more than just a farm boy from KS. I think from a young age he had that sense of "otherness" from people in general which informs how he portrays himself to other people. I don't really ascribe to the QT theory in that its Superman's critique of humanity, but more about how since he's been largely disconnected from humanity in general (not from his parents, but just because he knows he's not like other people) how he acts as Clark is him trying to fit in and fly under the radar so it comes off awkward because he's still can't really emotionally/psychologically understand the fragility/insecurity/etc of being human. So much of being a human being is being vulnerable to the elements, to danger, to harm, and the like, that its a big part of what makes a human a human and Clark has none of that. The "Clark" character - its certain iterations - isn't his view of humanity, but more representative of his greatest shortcoming, the fact that he can never really understand the people he's devoted his life to saving. Its the same way someone pretends to like something they're not really interested in just to be accepted socially.

He has no connection to Krypton either, outside of an abstract way, he's just kind of alone on Earth.

[Dub H]

one thing I do like from Superman is "a nice and simple coupel of farmers raise superhuman being". No wonders it is a classic to parody/reference.

[Psy]

I'm not a big Supes fan, but I don't dislike him. I generally like my super heroes to be good, and he fits that bill nicely. I'm not sure what it is about him that kind of turns me away, though. Maybe it's just that it feels like he is too powerful at times, it's a little hard to think of some of the villains as credible threats to him. There are credible threats, yeah.

[Dub H]

Mar 9, 2016 4:23:21 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

Mar 9, 2016 3:59:10 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

Even if it wasn't who cares of what some guy thinks about a fictional character. Kane is one of my favorite wrestlers and a lot of people here hate him or wishes he retires or never comes back from an injury etc and he's a real person.

Honestly if Superman was real and read this thread, I doubt he would get mad or upset. He would probably shrug his shoulders or even laugh and carry on with his day for he has some real shit to think about

I don't care, Superman is fictional so his "opinion" doesn't factor with me. I'm just tired of the "goody goody heroes are inherently uninteresting and bland" crap.

they are not inherently bland. Captain America is one of the most interesting characters for me,so is Shazam(even thought he isn't inherently good in the same way of Superman).

Just Superman

Well not just him,but it is something that can easily be just boring if not done well.

[stealthamo]

I've seen Superman be a jerk. Granted, it wasn't in a Superman movie, but it still counts, right?

[Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill]

It's well known that Superman is a dick:

[wisdomwizard]

To be fair, there's a lot of pure-hearted heroes that are massively beloved by fans. Captain America, Aang from Avatar: The Last Airbender, Spider-Man, Kenshin from Rurouni Kenshin, Vash from Trigun, Kuwabara from Yu Yu Hakusho, Ned Stark and Jon Snow from Game of Thrones, not to mention Goku who is basically Japanese Superman! The traditional hero is not anywhere close to being a dead formula.


As shown by how mixed the reception was for his recent films, Superman himself is still beloved my many.

[sternrogers01]

Mar 9, 2016 14:35:45 GMT -5 wisdomwizard said:

To be fair, there a lot of pure-hearted heroes that are massively beloved by fans. Captain America, Aang from Avatar: The Last Airbender, Spider-Man

[He lost the right to be labled that in 2007 when he sold out his marriage and unborn child to the devil]

[Dub H]

Mar 9, 2016 14:35:45 GMT -5 wisdomwizard said:

To be fair, there a lot of pure-hearted heroes that are massively beloved by fans. Captain America, Aang from Avatar: The Last Airbender, Spider-Man, Kenshin from Rurouni Kenshin, Vash from Trigun, Kuwabara from Yu Yu Hakusho, not to mention Goku who is basically Japanese Superman! The traditional hero is not anywhere close to being a dead formula.


As shown by how mixed the reception was for his recent films, Superman himself is still beloved my many.

My only problem with Goku is that he makes everyone else incompetent i hate dragon ball z from a storytelling point. But yeh,the completely good hearted hero is still alive and kicking

[H-Virus]

I've never understood the view of 'Superman is too powerful, he has no credible enemies'. Just off the top of my head:


Darkseid, Doomsday, Lobo, Hank Henshaw, Mongul and Bizarro all have power that rival Superman's.

Mr. Mxyzptlk can bend reality to his will and, to my knowledge, can't actually be killed, only banished.

Parasite can absorb a person's power, personality and appearance just by touching them.

Then, of course, you have the super geniuses like Luthor, Brainiac and Ultra-Humanite, who may not be able to match him physically but are more than capable of outsmarting and exploiting him.

That's nearly a dozen people who can, in one way or another, go toe-to-toe with Superman. Not even counting the ones who use magic or abuse his kryptonite weakness.

[A Platypus Rave]

Mar 9, 2016 19:52:39 GMT -5 H-Virus said:

I've never understood the view of 'Superman is too powerful, he has no credible enemies'. Just off the top of my head:


Darkseid, Doomsday, Lobo, Hank Henshaw, Mongul and Bizarro all have power that rival Superman's.

Mr. Mxyzptlk can bend reality to his will and, to my knowledge, can't actually be killed, only banished.

Parasite can absorb a person's power, personality and appearance just by touching them.

Then, of course, you have the super geniuses like Luthor, Brainiac and Ultra-Humanite, who may not be able to match him physically but are more than capable of outsmarting and exploiting him.

That's nearly a dozen people who can, in one way or another, go toe-to-toe with Superman. Not even counting the ones who use magic or abuse his kryptonite weakness.

hell Metallo has shown to go toe to toe with him before AND is powered by kryptonite...

[Brood Lone Wolf Funker]

Mar 9, 2016 19:52:39 GMT -5 H-Virus said:

I've never understood the view of 'Superman is too powerful, he has no credible enemies'. Just off the top of my head:


Darkseid, Doomsday, Lobo, Hank Henshaw, Mongul and Bizarro all have power that rival Superman's.

Mr. Mxyzptlk can bend reality to his will and, to my knowledge, can't actually be killed, only banished.

Parasite can absorb a person's power, personality and appearance just by touching them.

Then, of course, you have the super geniuses like Luthor, Brainiac and Ultra-Humanite, who may not be able to match him physically but are more than capable of outsmarting and exploiting him.

That's nearly a dozen people who can, in one way or another, go toe-to-toe with Superman. Not even counting the ones who use magic or abuse his kryptonite weakness.

Solomon Grundy as well

[CMWaters]

The thing about the view that Superman is an outsider in the real world because of the power...

It only works that way in the realities where he has the powers from the start.

A lot of more recent realities (comics, Superman TAS, Smallville, etc) have him gaining his powers in his high-school years, so as a kid he pretty much grew up as a normal Earthling, none the wiser to his true self.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Mar 8, 2016 19:04:25 GMT -5 Brood Lone Wolf Funker said:

I loved this shit when I saw it as a kid. That's the advantage of having such a white-meat character. When they finally go all in, they look like the biggest goon. Although, that one time Flash came out of nowhere to go HAM on Lex was probably my favorite moment of the entire show.

[Dub H]

Mar 9, 2016 19:52:39 GMT -5 H-Virus said:

I've never understood the view of 'Superman is too powerful, he has no credible enemies'. Just off the top of my head:


Darkseid, Doomsday, Lobo, Hank Henshaw, Mongul and Bizarro all have power that rival Superman's.

Mr. Mxyzptlk can bend reality to his will and, to my knowledge, can't actually be killed, only banished.

Parasite can absorb a person's power, personality and appearance just by touching them.

Then, of course, you have the super geniuses like Luthor, Brainiac and Ultra-Humanite, who may not be able to match him physically but are more than capable of outsmarting and exploiting him.

That's nearly a dozen people who can, in one way or another, go toe-to-toe with Superman. Not even counting the ones who use magic or abuse his kryptonite weakness.

exactly,all these beings are just as ridiculous powerful as Superman ,and athey are all recognize as the most powerful recurring villains.. And Superman can handle all of then.

Well except the genius,but besides Brainiac since he is also really powerful in his own way,i can't bring myself that they can outsmart superman giant power.Even with kryptnonite devices

[Georgina's Fancy Water]

But if he did that, he'd have to start calling himself Humbleman or Above Averageman.

And nobody likes Humbleman.

[BorneAgain]

Mar 9, 2016 22:39:56 GMT -5 Georgina's Fancy Water said:

But if he did that, he'd have to start calling himself Humbleman or Above Averageman.

And nobody likes Humbleman.

Well, if they do its not like he's ever gonna bring that up.

[Georgina's Fancy Water]

Mar 9, 2016 22:55:59 GMT -5 BorneAgain said:

Mar 9, 2016 22:39:56 GMT -5 Georgina's Fancy Water said:

But if he did that, he'd have to start calling himself Humbleman or Above Averageman.

And nobody likes Humbleman.

Well, if they do its not like he's ever gonna bring that up.

That's why everybody hates him.