Is Brock Lesnar lazy?

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

After the comments made by Dean in regards to their Mania match and Brock not wanting to do anything can he be called lazy? It's actually surprising to hear him just ride the match out but then again knowing he had UFC 200 in mind, i'm sure he was looking out for his best interest.

I wouldn't call him lazy per se because the few times he does wrestle in a year he goes all out in regards to offense and selling but maybe others might call him lazy because he only wrestles a few times a year. 

If anything as i've been saying recently he's done himself no favors with the Mania performance and now the PED suspension for a fight he himself wanted. 

[bootytea]

He has no reason to improve.

The fans have lowered their standards so much they are okay with him just doing suplexes because it's "cool." The same people that STILL boo Cena for allegedly doing 5 moves.

All Lesnar does is have Paul Heyman talk for him, then if we are lucky we get a segment where he is talking about pee or poop at some point.

Brawl brawl, Heyman say BROOOCK, prerecorded pee or poop promo, do the same move repeatedly while making funny faces. That sums the dude up.

[Allie Kitsune]

Why give 100% when 30% gets him paid and laid?

[sternrogers01]

People seem to think he's lazy
I don't mind, I think they're crazy

[A Platypus Rave]

Aug 10, 2016 14:18:34 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

Why give 100% when 30% gets him paid and laid?

More or less the old Hulk Hogan philosophy.

If I can do a punch and get the same pop as a dropkick why would I do the dropkick.

[Deleted]

Absolutely, but if I could get paid to do 10 German suplexes and let someone else talk for me you're damn right I would.

[FAR5222]

Like others said he doesn't have to do much. But if all us working folks were given the same circumstances as Lesnar we would do the same thing. We would all love to do as little work as possible to make so much money for something we genuinely love.

[Ben Wyatt]

If Dean is telling the truth about Mania, then Brock can go f*** right off. That match SHOULD have been Ambrose's launching pad. I know he's champion now, but a win, or even a more well done hard fought loss would have done him wonders.

[Sephiroth]

Brock has WWE wrapped around his finger. He has no reason to be motivated.

[alred1982]

Fans cheer when he spams the Germans so why risk anything run it in to the ground then when fans stop responding try something else.

[Deleted]

Lazy? Not quite. Boring as f***? Yessir.

[horseface]

Aug 10, 2016 14:38:03 GMT -5 Ben Wyatt said:

If Dean is telling the truth about Mania, then Brock can go f*** right off. That match SHOULD have been Ambrose's launching pad. I know he's champion now, but a win, or even a more well done hard fought loss would have done him wonders.

Brock is in business for himself. He has made this abundantly clear and even outright stated it. This and his anti-social attitudes in general are something I find completely vile. I do like it when this self-centeredness occasionally hurts people like Vince and Stephanie, but he is harming the rest of the wrestlers with stuff like this. I'd love to see Orton beat him and then never hear from him again. Maybe in Montreal Screwjob fashion except WWE is the face lol

[Magnus the Magnificent]

Work smarter, not harder.

[Ben Wyatt]

Aug 10, 2016 15:10:28 GMT -5 horseface said:

Aug 10, 2016 14:38:03 GMT -5 Ben Wyatt said:

If Dean is telling the truth about Mania, then Brock can go f*** right off. That match SHOULD have been Ambrose's launching pad. I know he's champion now, but a win, or even a more well done hard fought loss would have done him wonders.

Brock is in business for himself. He has made this abundantly clear and even outright stated it. This and his anti-social attitudes in general are something I find completely vile. I do like it when this self-centeredness occasionally hurts people like Vince and Stephanie, but he is harming the rest of the wrestlers with stuff like this. I'd love to see Orton beat him and then never hear from him again. Maybe in Montreal Screwjob fashion except WWE is the face lol

The part that bugs me is that Brock had a lot of people put him over early in his career.  He beat Rock, Hogan and Taker clean as a sheet in the span of a few months.  Angle made him look like a monster on several occasions. 

I get that he's about making money, but jesus dude, can you give something back to someone who needs it?

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Aug 10, 2016 15:13:46 GMT -5 Ben Wyatt said:

Aug 10, 2016 15:10:28 GMT -5 horseface said:

Brock is in business for himself. He has made this abundantly clear and even outright stated it. This and his anti-social attitudes in general are something I find completely vile. I do like it when this self-centeredness occasionally hurts people like Vince and Stephanie, but he is harming the rest of the wrestlers with stuff like this. I'd love to see Orton beat him and then never hear from him again. Maybe in Montreal Screwjob fashion except WWE is the face lol

The part that bugs me is that Brock had a lot of people put him over early in his career.  He beat Rock, Hogan and Taker clean as a sheet in the span of a few months.  Angle made him look like a monster on several occasions. 

I get that he's about making money, but jesus dude, can you give something back to someone who needs it?

On the podcast with Austin he did talk about how Rock told him you have to be a little selfish sometimes(Funny considering Rock put a lot of people over) but that's def Brock mindset in Mania. 

However, it was a different kind of selfish that wasn't for the wrestling ring but for himself in regards to UFC. He's basically been invincible for two years and I think now is when they start having him get back into the competitive field instead of pure monster. 

[Slanted and Enchanted]

Aug 10, 2016 14:33:25 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

Aug 10, 2016 14:18:34 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

Why give 100% when 30% gets him paid and laid?

More or less the old Hulk Hogan philosophy.

If I can do a punch and get the same pop as a dropkick why would I do the dropkick.

In the words of the Immortal Hogan: "Easy brother, we've already got their money".

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

Nope. Brock is one of the smartest guys in the business both from a match and business perspective. He knows what works for his character, he dramatically wears guys down with power moves and he knows how to play a big scary beast.

[Deleted]

Yeah he's lazy and selfish.

Lesnar's old pre-return style was safe on him albeit that weird ramming thing I think he did. This Suplex City thing while it gets him over, there's ways to expand the style that he's just not doing. You can still be "Suplex City Brock" and yet have more moves. I know, people will say "he's over with this style" and "he makes a lot of money so he's protecting himself" but look at the other wrestlers on the roster that are over and make money. Rollins is over and makes money and going by that logic he doesn't need to be doing all the stuff he does because of that. He does it though because he's trying to put on the best match possible. Reigns does whatever he can to make his matches as great as possible, Ambrose does the same, these guys know what they can do and what they can't do because they want to do as great as possible regardless of their contract obligations.

Lesnar on the other hand is different. Regardless of the match outcome or who he's against, "Brock's gonna Brock" and that's terrible for the other guys in the ring.

Also another thing, months ago when this rumor first came out before Ambrose confirmed it, I heard that Ambrose was the one that wanted to have a lot done to him, not Lesnar but Ambrose. I heard that Ambrose wanted himself to get hit by more objects, more moves, whatever to make himself be a real indestructible character and he'd still be over and if that's the case? Then yeah Lesnar is lazy because he doesn't have to do much. In this case it looks like Lesnar just did what he did to make himself seem as strong as possible rather than his opponent who said "ok well what if you do this to me-" and that's ridiculous. That match's whole purpose was designed to get Ambrose over and because of Lesnar it did the opposite. They gave Ambrose 2 clean wins over Jericho, a talk show, his own specialty match and a thumbtack spot and it still didn't erase the failure of that Lesnar match.

I'm sorry but that's lazy to me. I don't care about having any reason to go out there, everybody gets paid it's what you do when you're out there that warrants it.

[Shai]

Brock's attitude when it comes to WWE has always rubbed me the wrong way. While damn near everyone else is killing themselves to be the best Brock is a lazy f*** who can't be bothered. I'm honestly sick of Brock's shit, I wish he'd just go the hell away. Hearing Ambrose out and out say the Brock refused to make that match better pisses me the hell off. So many stars have put Brock over its rediculaus put now that it's his turn he can't do the same? F*** that noise.

[nisidhe]

Creatively, there's nothing that can really be done with Lesnar at this stage in his career. There are precious few in WWE who can credibly go over and, irony of ironies, they were or would have been credible opponents for him during Lesnar's first stint. People forget that he lost a title putting over Eddie Guerrero and was fed to Benoit a few times in <i>his</i> build-up to Wrestlemania. I think it's still possible for Lesnar to be made to give back. Being made to put over Orton, who was himself pushed into the title picture to erase Lesnar's accomplishment as youngest-ever champion, will either be his exit from WWE (to sit out whatever remains of his contract), or the beginning of his actual exit in the manner the roster deserves. After the PED kerfuffle in UFC, the bloom truly is off Lesnar's rose, his brand diminished to the point at which it may well be conceivable that he loses to an Ambrose, a Reigns or anyone else.