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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 8:51:54 GMT -5
I don't think the red hair is a big deal either way, I mean...Kirsten Dunst isn't a natural redhead and neither is Scarlett Johanson.
...but I'll admit that I am ugly-laughing at all the turbonerd rage that's sprouting from this.
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Post by Legion on Aug 19, 2016 9:43:33 GMT -5
Marvel's usually good at casting so if they think Zendaya can be a good MJ, I'll trust them. Just hope they let her dye her hair red. This. I don't care about race or whatever, just make her have her red hair. And if she is playing her as a ratty nerd, that's kinda weird, considering the whole dynamic is that Peter's punching above his weight because he's a massive nerd and she's a hot popular gal. EDIT: Okay, now I do have a problem with the dude from Grand Budapest Hotel being Flash Thompson. Unless he's massively bulked up since then, he's like, the least bully looking person ever. Like, Peter should just be able to push him over and walk away if he kicks off. He's gonna have to pull off some amazing shit to be believable. Yeah, of the race swap from comic casting, that is the one I find most stupid. Flash is a jock bully, not just a random weedy nerd bully or street rat or however they play that guy that isnt going to be a jock because he just isnt a jock. Jock!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 19, 2016 10:34:12 GMT -5
anti-MJ fans bemoaning the decision and demanding Felicia appear instead. Usual cup of joe. ...why? Felicia didn't show up until after Parker graduated college. and even in the Ultimate Universe she was way older than Parker which was the basis for that universes take on the she's attracted to Spider-man not Peter Parker relationship.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Aug 19, 2016 10:38:48 GMT -5
This. I don't care about race or whatever, just make her have her red hair. And if she is playing her as a ratty nerd, that's kinda weird, considering the whole dynamic is that Peter's punching above his weight because he's a massive nerd and she's a hot popular gal. EDIT: Okay, now I do have a problem with the dude from Grand Budapest Hotel being Flash Thompson. Unless he's massively bulked up since then, he's like, the least bully looking person ever. Like, Peter should just be able to push him over and walk away if he kicks off. He's gonna have to pull off some amazing shit to be believable. Yeah, of the race swap from comic casting, that is the one I find most stupid. Flash is a jock bully, not just a random weedy nerd bully or street rat or however they play that guy that isnt going to be a jock because he just isnt a jock. Jock! Yeah, I don't give a f*** about race, dude just doesn't fit the character in archetype or look at all. Unless he's an E-Sports Jock. Is that a thing? That's probably a thing.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Aug 19, 2016 10:53:29 GMT -5
I'm happy to see homegirl do something other than some Disney channel foolishness.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 19, 2016 10:54:57 GMT -5
I don't know that the redhead thing HAS to be a part of her character; even the bombshell model thing was added later. She was attractive, since Romita can't not draw attractive people and based on the reactions of other women in Pete's life when Ditko was hidin her face, but her main character trait was she was the more outgoing party girl as opposed to regular Gwen.
And hell, as may have been mentioned, in the Ultimate U she was kind of a nerd as well. All you really need is an attractive girl who is more outgoing than Pete, and kinda feisty, and you have her.
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Post by James Fabiano on Aug 19, 2016 11:44:20 GMT -5
I don't know that the redhead thing HAS to be a part of her character; even the bombshell model thing was added later. She was attractive, since Romita can't not draw attractive people and based on the reactions of other women in Pete's life when Ditko was hidin her face, but her main character trait was she was the more outgoing party girl as opposed to regular Gwen. And hell, as may have been mentioned, in the Ultimate U she was kind of a nerd as well. All you really need is an attractive girl who is more outgoing than Pete, and kinda feisty, and you have her. I'm thinking she seems to be a nerd, but when she takes off the glasses and lets her hair down.... As for Flash, I am picturing the "new definition of what a nerd is" that they kept defending during the Amazing movies. Sounds like their Flash will be more like Cliff Carmichael from Firestorm?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 19, 2016 12:09:53 GMT -5
Now have Charlie Rich's Behind Closed Doors in my head. "Then she lets her hair hang down."
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 19, 2016 13:20:49 GMT -5
...but I'll admit that I am ugly-laughing at all the turbonerd rage that's sprouting from this. Stop flamebaiting people or stay out of these "controversy" threads about race and gender. Get your point across without talking down to people and insulting them. If you can't figure out how to do that then you'll be barred from them. K?
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Post by Display Name on Aug 19, 2016 13:54:39 GMT -5
This doesn't bother me at all. It would be nice if she went red though. I however am still pissed I'll never see what Felicity Jones looks like in a Black Cat outfit.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 19, 2016 14:08:53 GMT -5
Was Felicity Jones rumored to play Felicia Hardy in the previous movies?
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Post by chrom on Aug 19, 2016 14:22:32 GMT -5
Just have her wear a red wig or dye her hair for it, easy as that. Plus they can do a scene where Aunt May decides to take her shopping and give her a makeover so when Peter mets her for their date, cue bombshell looks. Also I'm glad she's just now turning 20 and a believable age. Don't need people in their mid or late twenties playing high schoolers and teenagers.
Plus with Flash, they use angles and boots to make RDJ appear to be equal height with Evans and others, they may do that with the guy playing him. Just so long as they made it mandatory that he also hits the gym and put on muscle for the role.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 19, 2016 14:26:28 GMT -5
Was Felicity Jones rumored to play Felicia Hardy in the previous movies? In Amazing 2 she played a character named "Felicia" I don't believe a last name was given.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 19, 2016 14:39:47 GMT -5
At first I was all "well I don't care as long as she has red hair" but then I thought about what defines MJ to me. Red head. Unbelievably attractive. Brash and confident. So race doesn't matter here one bit. Just those three are what I consider MJ to be. Then I realized that checklist is a bit weak anyways and maybe the redhead doesn't matter as much. Just as long as she's Peter's rock in his life and the strong one that pushes him that's all I really care about. Can we just get a Spider-man movie that doesn't involve Peter Parker's soap opera romance nonsense. Just for two hours have him try to get a good photo for a young photographer Daily Bugle competition while fighting Vulture and Shocker who are trying to rob every jewellery store in Manhattan. I'm the opposite on this, Spidey is the one superhero whose marital/love life is in anyway interesting to me. Now Batman... I check out at Batromance.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 19, 2016 14:52:50 GMT -5
Peter's love life is a central part of his character arc. Maybe the romance aspects can be toned down to be less melodramatic, but getting rid of it altogether is a bad thing IMO.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Aug 19, 2016 15:05:12 GMT -5
Not really. He's been happily married in the newspaper comics for 29 years. Lots of other universes depict him and MJ being pretty happy with tons of kids.
I don't think his love life's been a terribly important part of the last ten years since OMD either. Oh sure there was kinky mask sex with Felicia and a short stint with Carlie, but that's about it. The most successful relationship he had since then was when Ock was in the driver's seat. Slott's admitted that he does'nt bother much with girlfriends because none of them will ever match MJ or Gwen
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Aug 19, 2016 15:06:13 GMT -5
Leaked set photos of Zendaya {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 19, 2016 15:42:29 GMT -5
Leaked set photos of Zendaya {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} I'm fine with her race, but no red hair? Bruh.
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Post by Fade on Aug 19, 2016 16:10:31 GMT -5
Can we just get a Spider-man movie that doesn't involve Peter Parker's soap opera romance nonsense. Just for two hours have him try to get a good photo for a young photographer Daily Bugle competition while fighting Vulture and Shocker who are trying to rob every jewellery store in Manhattan. Man, you're not gonna like this. They're totally going the Ultimate Route where most of the emphasis is on the drama surrounding Pete and his peeps. Keaton will definitely light it up as Vulture but this will very much be a Breakfast Club Spidey.
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Post by Fade on Aug 19, 2016 16:16:21 GMT -5
Leaked set photos of Zendaya {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} She looks pretty ratchet. Even in the Ultimate line, MJs nerdy and hipsterish but still hot and having all the guys wanting to tap it, per say.
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