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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 19:14:08 GMT -5
Sacrilege to speak ill of Graves, but I find him a turn off on RAW.
He just shits on babyfaces at every turn. Doesn't even give them the benefit if the doubt. Good heel commentators put over, even with reluctance, with most guys. He's like Jerry Lawler in the early 2000s.
People gripe about Cole being Cole, JBL's random death threats, Otunga being boring, Mauro the pop culture sputterer & Saxton being the geek, but I could do without Graves.
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Post by bootytea on Aug 26, 2016 19:19:34 GMT -5
He does give faces credit some time. I remember him having positive things to say about Finn Balor.
Only commentator that irks me is Mauro with his forced references. Its getting to Striker levels.
Byron and David don't add any analysis at all and are seemingly just there to give the booth color.
The announce teams aren't so bad. I try not to let them bother me too much.
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Post by MGH on Aug 26, 2016 19:22:03 GMT -5
This just isn't true.
Like, factually very incorrect.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 26, 2016 19:22:20 GMT -5
It's leagues better than it used to be, the announce teams, but I do think sometimes Corey has trouble with the right balance. I remember being really irritated with him in NXT when Becky was still there because he'd just shit on her nonstop. That said, I don't thing he's bad about it to the extent of being distracting, he just needs time to work on it.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Aug 26, 2016 19:23:12 GMT -5
I may not have ever disagreed with an OP as much as I do here. Graves is the future voice of the company.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 19:25:19 GMT -5
Am I the only poster who doesn't like Corey at all?
I think it was a mistake making this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 19:31:40 GMT -5
This just isn't true. Like, factually very incorrect. Dude shat all over Sami Zayn this Monday.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Aug 26, 2016 19:34:19 GMT -5
Am I the only poster who doesn't like Corey at all? I think it was a mistake making this thread. Well compared to what else we have in the WWE, he one of the best they got. Lets faces it, announcing in wrestling in general is not that great of a scene. Looking around at how nobody in the WWE outside of Graves and the newer guy who does CWC, nobody else has been that good. If he turns you off on Raw, how did Lawler and JBL do for you? Lawler been bad since really 2002.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 26, 2016 19:34:38 GMT -5
Only commentator that irks me is Mauro with his forced references. Its getting to Striker levels. I've found Mauro's commentary to be a severe disappointment. Maybe I expected too much.
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Post by CH Punk on Aug 26, 2016 19:36:55 GMT -5
It's leagues better than it used to be, the announce teams, but I do think sometimes Corey has trouble with the right balance. I remember being really irritated with him in NXT when Becky was still there because he'd just shit on her nonstop. That said, I don't thing he's bad about it to the extent of being distracting, he just needs time to work on it. To be fair, by the end of it, he cranked it up to an absurdly comic level. I remember one week on NXT, Becky came out and Graves said something like "I was on a flight to Portland, checking Twitter, when I saw that Becky Lynch called me a failed hipster. It made me almost spill my craft beer!" Either he realized that he was over doing it and was going towards burial territory or someone told him to turn it against himself. Am I the only poster who doesn't like Corey at all? I think it was a mistake making this thread. I mean, I like him, but it's perfectly within your right to not like him at all. I know someone, be it intentional or not, seems to only ever pick out Graves' calls as dumb, so people who don't like Graves exist.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 19:41:51 GMT -5
Am I the only poster who doesn't like Corey at all? I think it was a mistake making this thread. Well compared to what else we have in the WWE, he one of the best they got. Lets faces it, announcing in wrestling in general is not that great of a scene. Looking around at how nobody in the WWE outside of Graves and the newer guy who does CWC, nobody else has been that good. If he turns you off on Raw, how did Lawler and JBL do for you? Lawler been bad since really 2002. Oh, God, I hate everything about Jerry Lawler. JBL was pretty good in the mid 2000s but I can actually put up with him today, even as a buzzword machine.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Aug 26, 2016 19:42:19 GMT -5
I get he's not for everyone, but for me for a breath of fresh air.
On airways dominated by Michael Cole, JBL and King, it's nice to hear someone more in touch giving a fresh perspective on things.
And I dig his heel commentary. He makes me laugh. I can't complain. His team with Phillips is my current favourite.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 19:44:54 GMT -5
I strongly disagree.
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Post by Captain & Diet on Aug 26, 2016 19:49:44 GMT -5
Am I the only poster who doesn't like Corey at all? I think it was a mistake making this thread. Different strokes for different folks, brother. I think Graves is fantastic at what he does. In fact, he took the best of Heenan and Ventura and melded them together. He doesn't have Heenan's wit and thank goodness he isn't a racist like Ventura. Graves is an announcer I look forward to hearing.
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Post by IMPRESSIVE knightwing1047 on Aug 26, 2016 19:53:56 GMT -5
Sacrilege to speak ill of Graves, but I find him a turn off on RAW. He just shits on babyfaces at every turn. Doesn't even give them the benefit if the doubt. Good heel commentators put over, even with reluctance, with most guys. He's like Jerry Lawler in the early 2000s. People gripe about Cole being Cole, JBL's random death threats, Otunga being boring, Mauro the pop culture sputterer & Saxton being the geek, but I could do without Graves. Well, I don't so much care for what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 20:06:28 GMT -5
This just isn't true. Like, factually very incorrect. Dude shat all over Sami Zayn this Monday. I just watched Zayn/Rollins, ignoring the action to listen to the commentary. Here's what Graves did: >Continually said Sami needed to quit after injuring his leg, and was risking his career for one match >Called Rollins "Da Man", and joked that he's so proficient he can injure his opponents without actually attacking them (uncouth, but not a knock on Zayn) >Pointed out that fighting a perennial top contender while crippled is a bad idea (which is true) >Questioned the risk Sami took by doing a top-rope Yoshi Tonic >Showed shock that Zayn managed to rally against Rollins for a while Dude, this is not shitting on Sami Zayn. It's insincere concern for his career at worst. At best, Graves (in kayfabe), was only looking out for the poor schmuck. Beyond that, I noticed nothing of import.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 26, 2016 20:16:25 GMT -5
Byron and David don't add any analysis at all and are seemingly just there to give the booth color. What you did there, I see it.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Aug 26, 2016 20:21:25 GMT -5
Frankly I don't like him either. I only have his NXT work to go from, but he fits an archetype that I hate with the heat of 5,000 hot combs.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Aug 26, 2016 20:28:24 GMT -5
Byron and David don't add any analysis at all and are seemingly just there to give the booth color. What you did there, I see it.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 26, 2016 21:14:41 GMT -5
I'm a fan but this RAW run has been everything I feared. He has completely disappeared outside the times he is told to yell something stupid. Completely lost everything that was works down in NXT.
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