Wailord Man
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Post by Wailord Man on Nov 4, 2016 14:56:37 GMT -5
If you played the majority of your time as a DH in baseball you don't belong in the HOF. And I mean as soon as you hit 51% you lose eligibility.
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Unocal 76
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Post by Unocal 76 on Nov 4, 2016 15:23:40 GMT -5
The 2016 Cubs will be this generation's equivalent of the 1984 Tigers/1986 Mets.
A memorable once-in-a-lifetime WS winner that won't be forgotten like other teams that one a title, but didn't quite have the same panacHe.
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Unocal 76
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Post by Unocal 76 on Nov 4, 2016 15:25:32 GMT -5
If Steve Beurelein started every game for the 1992 Cowboys instead of Troy Aikman, they still would have won the Super Bowl Throw in any name there. Billy Joe Tolliver, Chris Chandler, Mike Tomczak, anyone. Any QB would have won those Super Bowls with the Cowboys in the 90s. Those teams were so leaps and bounds better than everyone else it was almost a joke. I wouldn't go THAT far. I mentioned Beurelein because the year prior, he won 6 straight games after Aikman got hurt plus a playoff win to boot (He was the backup that year and the next). Considering the 1991 Cowboys were basically the same team minus Charles Haley, who's to say Beurelein couldn't have done a deja vu with a much better version of that team>
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 18:36:13 GMT -5
I thought of this yesterday and feel the need to bring this up. Chicago baseball fans, sit down and heed this. I learned this after the Strike of 1994.
There is no feud between the Cubs and White Sox. There is no rivalry between the two. It's a big brother (Cubs)-little brother (White Sox) relationship. There are things your brother does you don't like. You get into scrapes with your brother. You may grow envious of your brother. But (aside from the Crosstown Classic), you do wish each other well. You're both different. (NL fans, AL fans, we're first and foremost BASEBALL FANS!) Embrace that.
Cub fans, worry more about beating the Cardinals, the Pirates - your division rivals you play 19 times a year. Sox fans, beat Cleveland, the Tigers (for God's sake beat the Twins) - focus your hatred that direction.
Stop with the name-calling, the pointless arguments over who has more titles or draws more fans. (How many f**** do I give if there's only 10,000 Sox fans there? I don't have stock in the team. There's only one attendance figure I care about: 1. Me.) The media will suck up to a winner; that business is all about being a front-runner. Don't pay them any attention. Don't let the media stir up vile feelings.
This was a fun Cubs team to watch, I'm not afraid to admit it. The Sox are my guys, but the North Side team played good, hard baseball. I like these young players. Yeah, I wish the Sox would do better, but it is what it is. At least somebody in town is doing something.
Embrace baseball in all its forms. It's all supposed to be fun. A distraction from all the bullshit we put up with in the real world. Have each others' back and just enjoy. We're not on earth very long. In words I'm sure my dad told me a few times: "Don't be an asshole."
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Urethra Franklin
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Nov 4, 2016 23:35:05 GMT -5
There's is going to be a glut of QBs going into the hall of fame going forward and fewer and fewer RBs for the simple reason they don't play long enough. I mean are Frank Gore, Steven Jackson, Chris Johnson and Matt Forte all going to the hall of fame ? How many surefire HoFers are active right now? I'd say Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers and Ben Roethlisberger at QB. You could maybe argue for Eli Manning, but outside of two rings, he doesn't warrant it. Adrian Peterson is probably the only lock at RB. Larry Fitzgerald is probably the only WR. Jury's still out on guys like Julio, AJ and Antonio Brown. You can argue for Brandon Marshall, Anquan Boldin and Steve Smith. I'd say Antonio Gates (PEDs could factor in, though) and Jason Witten at TE. Gronk is projecting there, too. On the O-Line, Joe Thomas and maybe Jason Peters are good bets. On defence, I think Darrelle Revis, Earl Thomas, Richard Sherman and Patrick Peterson are likely in the secondary. Linebackers, you've probably got DeMarcus Ware and Julius Peppers, for sure, with Clay Matthews, Ndamukong Suh, Luke Kuechly, Von Miller and (maybe) James Harrison as good bets. At DE, you've got JJ Watt and Adam Vinatieri at kicker. And then there are recently retired guys like Peyton Manning, Megatron and Andre Johnson.
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Wailord Man
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Post by Wailord Man on Nov 5, 2016 0:02:50 GMT -5
There's is going to be a glut of QBs going into the hall of fame going forward and fewer and fewer RBs for the simple reason they don't play long enough. I mean are Frank Gore, Steven Jackson, Chris Johnson and Matt Forte all going to the hall of fame ? How many surefire HoFers are active right now? I'd say Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers and Ben Roethlisberger at QB. You could maybe argue for Eli Manning, but outside of two rings, he doesn't warrant it. Adrian Peterson is probably the only lock at RB. Larry Fitzgerald is probably the only WR. Jury's still out on guys like Julio, AJ and Antonio Brown. You can argue for Brandon Marshall, Anquan Boldin and Steve Smith. I'd say Antonio Gates (PEDs could factor in, though) and Jason Witten at TE. Gronk is projecting there, too. On the O-Line, Joe Thomas and maybe Jason Peters are good bets. On defence, I think Darrelle Revis, Earl Thomas, Richard Sherman and Patrick Peterson are likely in the secondary. Linebackers, you've probably got DeMarcus Ware and Julius Peppers, for sure, with Clay Matthews, Ndamukong Suh, Luke Kuechly, Von Miller and (maybe) James Harrison as good bets. At DE, you've got JJ Watt and Adam Vinatieri at kicker. And then there are recently retired guys like Peyton Manning, Megatron and Andre Johnson. For the most part I agree with your list but I think you left a few people off. Frank Gore at RB, Nick Mangold on O-line and Sebastian Janikowski at kicker
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Sam Punk
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Post by Sam Punk on Nov 8, 2016 10:32:05 GMT -5
Kevin Durant is a loser. He can't win a championship in OKC so he jumps on the bandwagon of a team that just won 73 games and was 1 win away from back to back championships. What kind of competitor is he?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 7:55:48 GMT -5
Long as we're talking basketball and overrated players, Bill Walton takes the cake. I've never heard of anybody else turn one good season into a HOF career AND get chosen as one of the NBA's 50 Greatest Players. Check his numbers and there are a bunch of centers who were better and less fragile.
This is not an indictment against his college career, but I believe more people take that into account when sizing up his overall impact; when in all honesty, he was just lucky to be a center that won a couple of rings.
The only positive thing I can affirm is that, without Bill, no way Portland beats the 76ers in 1977.
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Post by No One on Nov 11, 2016 15:49:18 GMT -5
Now I love the NFL, and I love the NBA during the playoffs, but I think pro sports are rigged to a certain extent. There's way too much money involved for it not to be. Check this out: the 2 back to back ties in the NFL this week and last week I think are tied to the World Series. Get this: the last time there were ties in back to back weeks in the NFL was 1997. The Redskins were involved in the 2nd of the ties of each respective year. That year the Indians lost the World Series in 7 games to the Florida Marlins. Golden State overcame a 3-1 deficit to against OKC to get to the Finals. The Cleveland Cavaliers overcame a 3-1 deficit against GS to win the Finals who were the best team in the league. That win gave the city of Cleveland a championship which it hadn't had for over 50 years. Now in the World Series, the Cubs are down 3-1 and will come back to win in 7 games and will give the Cubs a championship which they haven't won in 108 years. Just something I've been thinking about. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I think this is too connected for me not to be. I do believe that the fix was in during the 2002 Lakers/Kings WCF series.
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Unocal 76
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Post by Unocal 76 on Nov 11, 2016 16:32:56 GMT -5
The New Jersey Nets would have won the 2002 NBA Finals if they played Sacramento instead of the Lakers.
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Unocal 76
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Post by Unocal 76 on Nov 12, 2016 5:41:19 GMT -5
The WAR Wins Above Replacement stat is the ONLY reason why people speak so glowingly about Mike Trout.
If it wasn't for that stat, he's just another good player instead of the greatest thing since sliced bread.
EDIT: And because of that, we have an AL MVP who literally put up meaningless stats all year.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 9, 2017 12:21:56 GMT -5
What rookie QB/RB tandem had a better statistical season?
Dak Prescott and Zeke Elliot
Or
RG3 and Alfred Morris
And if Dallas loses to Green Bay next week do they have similar career path trajectories?
I think Dak isn't anything special. But Zeke looks like he could be another Adrian Peterson.
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Post by unc40 on Jan 10, 2017 20:05:09 GMT -5
My hot takes are:
-Although the closer in baseball is important it is no more important than a pinch runner or a pinch hitter.
-Way too many college basketball coaches are in the hall of fame. It seems like if you went to one Final Four or coached a long time no matter how average your record was you got in. High School basketball coaches have no business being inducted.
-Punters are more valuable to a football team's success than most people want to admit.
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 11, 2017 15:10:45 GMT -5
Long as we're talking basketball and overrated players, Bill Walton takes the cake. I've never heard of anybody else turn one good season into a HOF career AND get chosen as one of the NBA's 50 Greatest Players. Check his numbers and there are a bunch of centers who were better and less fragile. This is not an indictment against his college career, but I believe more people take that into account when sizing up his overall impact; when in all honesty, he was just lucky to be a center that won a couple of rings. The only positive thing I can affirm is that, without Bill, no way Portland beats the 76ers in 1977. In defense of this one (maybe old, but was built) on a wrestling board: Come on. Guy who's appeal is that he's less like your average athlete, and honestly...more like a hippie? Yes. Guy who was a God in smaller scale leagues, and it is taken into account for his overall impact? Yes. Guy who had a short reign at the top, but when he was at the top- he was undisputedly the best out there- to the point you'd rather have that short year of him than ten of a lesser guy? YES. Guy who, if it really comes down to it, had an incredibly short reign at the top due to being fragile and is memorable for one glorious year when it all came together, and because of that alone should go down as a HOFer and one of the all-time best? YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. ...search your wrestling fan feelings, you know this comparison to be true.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 13, 2017 3:18:34 GMT -5
After watching that segment on MLB network on how they differentiate between their MLB voting I stand by my previous statement if I would put PED users in the HOF.
People like Tom Verducci need to get over themselves in regards to who's "clean" and who isn't. This Black and White scenario of if I suspected they used they don't get my vote is just crazy.
I will says this a lot of the PED "suspected" and convicted users aren't liked. What will the rhetoric be when someone like Big Papi gets on the ballet because I'm pretty sure the same people on their high horse will back track when he comes up because he's so beloved through baseball
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 13, 2017 3:31:58 GMT -5
The WAR Wins Above Replacement stat is the ONLY reason why people speak so glowingly about Mike Trout. If it wasn't for that stat, he's just another good player instead of the greatest thing since sliced bread. EDIT: And because of that, we have an AL MVP who literally put up meaningless stats all year. I wouldn't say he'd be just another good player because he is great but WAR has inflated him. I did not think he deserved MVP this year. I still fall into the line of if you win MVP on a bad team your numbers better be 1.5x better than the other players on the ballet. People lean to heavily on the war and other stats which is how you end up with mistake contracts like Jason Hayward and Shin Sho Cho. In truth I would of voted Mimi's Betts MVP this year. Also to speak on similar topic. Bryce Harper will live on potential for a long time and hardly fulfill it. He's not Mike Trout and every time I talk to my friends about the free agent class and who should Yankees take I say Manny Macahado. Manny has shown to be a force since he's stepped in while Harper has had one great(historic maybe) year and the rest have been average.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jan 13, 2017 13:01:30 GMT -5
I believe Indoor/Arena Football is more fun to watch than the outdoor variety.
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Push R Truth
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 13, 2017 13:10:07 GMT -5
The Browns are shitty
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Unocal 76
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Post by Unocal 76 on Jan 13, 2017 17:16:37 GMT -5
The first round of the NBA playoffs was more fun in the best-of-5 era
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Toxik916
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Post by Toxik916 on Jan 14, 2017 3:32:29 GMT -5
The New Jersey Nets would have won the 2002 NBA Finals if they played Sacramento instead of the Lakers. Hahahahaha bullshit
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