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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 17:45:04 GMT -5
I swear, the Border Toss has to be a move that you have to put your life into the guy's hands.
Doesn't help that Hernandez is one of the most haphazard guys in the industry.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 17:49:58 GMT -5
The Razor's Edge-style power bomb is unsafe in general. Always hear about how it's way too easy to bang your head when receiving it.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 18, 2016 19:28:29 GMT -5
Diving Headbutt.
When even its innovator, Harley Race, said many times he wishes he never came up with it, that kind of adds to it.
Literally the only person who can make that move not be a concussion waiting to happen is D-Von Dudley when it's part of the WASSUP! spot.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Dec 18, 2016 19:32:29 GMT -5
Hernandez' style of the Border Toss where the wrestler is being tossed still has to be safer than the Razor's Edge, where he just drops you.
What about the Burning Hammer - Kenta himself has said he has no control over how the other guy lands, so there's about a 50/50 chance the opponent breaks his neck.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Dec 18, 2016 19:57:40 GMT -5
A brainbuster is pretty sick. Not talking about the ones some commentators call it where it's basically a suplex and they land more on their upper back than their lower back. I mean the one where someone is being held up in a vertical suplex and is dropped straight down on their head. Not sure how anyone is meant to be able to protect themselves or their opponent during that one.
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Post by agent817 on Dec 18, 2016 20:06:08 GMT -5
There are a lot of moves from Japanese wrestlers that look dangerous, like the one that is called the Hangman's DDT in Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy. Also, the Burning Hammer looks really unsafe.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 18, 2016 20:06:27 GMT -5
Vertebreaker.
Taking a move that's dangerous enough in it's vanilla form and performing it in such a way you can't see how your opponent is taking it... Genius! Same goes for the Canadian destroyer, flip stupidity.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Dec 18, 2016 20:15:01 GMT -5
There are a lot of moves from Japanese wrestlers that look dangerous, like the one that is called the Hangman's DDT in Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy. Also, the Burning Hammer looks really unsafe. The Hangman's DDT/Ganso Bomb is ridiculous, but the only time it was done as bad as it looks in the AKI games was due to Kawada (the one giving the move) breaking his forearm ~40 minutes earlier, and literally couldn't drop Misawa any other way. The few other times it was done, it was more of a controlled, but still absurd, piledriver. And I'd have to go with the Alabama Slam. Like the Border Toss, the person taking it literally just gets tossed upper back and neck first without any control.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 18, 2016 20:50:55 GMT -5
Hernandez' style of the Border Toss where the wrestler is being tossed still has to be safer than the Razor's Edge, where he just drops you. I disagee. Razor can guide the move, and can take much of the impact away by landing on his knees before bringing the guy down. The Border Toss is basically "Welp, I hope this f***er throws me correctly!"
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Dec 18, 2016 21:13:06 GMT -5
I feel like somebody, and I may be making this up, did a version of the Razor's Edge where he just f***ing spun out of the corner with the guy on his shoulders, and then just f***ing CHUCKED him whichever way he went.
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Post by sfvega on Dec 18, 2016 21:25:52 GMT -5
Big E's spear through the ropes is the only one where I feel like the guy is going to kill or paralyze himself eventually. A smaller guy might fair better, but you're still pretty unable to control how you take the fall. And you're falling about 8 feet, and it's always head-first. And he in particular is built so friggin top-heavy. In the old Celebrity Deathmatch line, he has the build of a candy apple.
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Post by SkullTrauma on Dec 18, 2016 21:32:19 GMT -5
I like the Border Toss.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 18, 2016 21:43:53 GMT -5
I feel like somebody, and I may be making this up, did a version of the Razor's Edge where he just f***ing spun out of the corner with the guy on his shoulders, and then just f***ing CHUCKED him whichever way he went. Not out of the corner but that sounds like James Storm's Eye of the Storm.
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Dec 18, 2016 21:49:41 GMT -5
The Lawn Dart always looks like actual death even when a guy like Gargano is doing it.
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Post by hossfan on Dec 18, 2016 21:58:19 GMT -5
Steiner Screwdriver
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 18, 2016 22:03:01 GMT -5
I feel like somebody, and I may be making this up, did a version of the Razor's Edge where he just f***ing spun out of the corner with the guy on his shoulders, and then just f***ing CHUCKED him whichever way he went. Sid did something like that, but I think he just had the guy up on his shoulder like an old school back breaker submission before spin throwing them. EDIT: About 36 seconds in - m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ELGmf9ZPg
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Post by Shark on Dec 18, 2016 22:27:05 GMT -5
The Lawn Dart always looks like actual death even when a guy like Gargano is doing it. First time I ever saw that move done was against TJP in the CWC and I never wanted to see it again.
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Post by Larryhausen on Dec 18, 2016 22:37:19 GMT -5
A brainbuster is pretty sick. Not talking about the ones some commentators call it where it's basically a suplex and they land more on their upper back than their lower back. I mean the one where someone is being held up in a vertical suplex and is dropped straight down on their head. Not sure how anyone is meant to be able to protect themselves or their opponent during that one. It's really just part of the illusion. I've never been on either end of it, but I've seen it being taught. It looks brutal as hell, but, unless it's horribly botched, it always winds up as a shoulder bump.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 23:02:31 GMT -5
The Razor's Edge-style power bomb is unsafe in general. Always hear about how it's way too easy to bang your head when receiving it. Bad Luck Fale probably does the safest non-sit down version of that move since he just drops the other guy straight down instead of tossing them forward.
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Post by 67 more on Dec 19, 2016 1:16:23 GMT -5
Alabama Slam, because I've never been able to keep my chin tucked while taking it.
Any sitdown reverse piledriver, the momentum of the move is completely against a safe landing unless you do a Bam Bam and the guys head is three foot off the mat.
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