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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 23:29:18 GMT -5
Not the worst but still really bad. We had New Day's record-setting title reign ended by the equivalent of a fluke roll-up, Rollins/Jericho...happened, Strowman/Zayn was an extended squash match that ended with Strowman completely no-selling Zayn's finish, Swann retaining was good though the match was a whole lot of nothing, the Ironman match was super slow and plodding and the inevitable Gotta Make Charlotte Look Strong finish was the shit cherry on top, and the main event was alright but the intentional DQ was horrendous.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 18, 2016 23:31:14 GMT -5
The hell it ain't, not with that New Day v Sheamus/Cesaro match on it. Enjoyed most of the card, actually. Nothing against you guys, but it helps a lot when you're actually by yourself and you can judge things without being skewed by the masses. Let's not blame people hating the card on being "Skewed by the masses" dude, if I had watched this shit by myself I would have hated it just as much. Like feel free to like it but stop devaluing opinions like that on the other end. He's got a point though, not this card mind ya, but a good point. I cannot count the number of times I've watched a show without being in the live threads and loved them, only to see the people who dominate those threads shitting all over it. You know, maybe they didn't like it but so many seem to rush off for jokes and shots at things they miss the meat of a show and miss that the very things they complain about not happening actually happened. Yeah shows have sucked but I'll agree that the live threads have made them worse than improved then recently.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 23:32:52 GMT -5
We had New Day's record-setting title reign ended by the equivalent of a fluke roll-up I thought that was very clever. New Day's been scraping by for months by doing every underhanded thing they can think of, constantly cheating or tricking people who in a straight fight have their number, and they lose their belts by way of someone using the same sort of tactic they've been doing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 23:35:05 GMT -5
I thought that was very clever. New Day's been scraping by for months by doing every underhanded thing they can think of, constantly cheating or tricking people who in a straight fight have their number, and they lose their belts by way of someone using the same sort of tactic they've been doing. Honestly I probably would've been okay with it if it was a team I actually cared about. Cesaro and Sheamus are channel-changers for me at this point, and I say that as someone who used to be a pretty decent fan of both. I just can't bring myself to care about either guy.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Dec 18, 2016 23:35:11 GMT -5
Mania was butt.
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Post by kevin on Dec 18, 2016 23:37:27 GMT -5
Yes easily in an otherwise good year of PPV's this one really stands out like a sore thumb.
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Post by Stu on Dec 18, 2016 23:37:58 GMT -5
But would you say it was AssButt?
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Post by Shai on Dec 18, 2016 23:38:07 GMT -5
Let's not blame people hating the card on being "Skewed by the masses" dude, if I had watched this shit by myself I would have hated it just as much. Like feel free to like it but stop devaluing opinions like that on the other end. Fine, only if you or anyone else don't devalue MY opinion that I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the tag title match, I enjoyed Zayn v Strowman, I enjoyed what I saw of Rollins/Jericho and the cruiserweight match, I enjoyed Neville's turn, I ESPECIALLY enjoyed the women's match and, hell, I even enjoyed Owens v Reigns. Sorry, I'm not going to be cowered into silence anymore just because some of you get hot about who wins and loses and who ISN'T winning or losing. You didn't enjoy this show? That's fine, I DID. I felt like you called people sheep. THAT'S what I personally took offense to. You liked it great. A lot of people didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 23:39:21 GMT -5
At least Roadblock gave us this.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 18, 2016 23:41:13 GMT -5
I thought it was a decent episode of RAW.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 18, 2016 23:53:12 GMT -5
Fine, only if you or anyone else don't devalue MY opinion that I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the tag title match, I enjoyed Zayn v Strowman, I enjoyed what I saw of Rollins/Jericho and the cruiserweight match, I enjoyed Neville's turn, I ESPECIALLY enjoyed the women's match and, hell, I even enjoyed Owens v Reigns. Sorry, I'm not going to be cowered into silence anymore just because some of you get hot about who wins and loses and who ISN'T winning or losing. You didn't enjoy this show? That's fine, I DID. I felt like you called people sheep. THAT'S what I personally took offense to. You liked it great. A lot of people didn't. OK, I apologise for causing offence. Implying that the critics are "sheep" was definitely never the intent. It's just a bit overwhelming when there are many posters here who are very vocal with their criticisms, as legitimate as they may be even if I don't agree with them, and it gets like shooting a popgun against a rocket launcher... They're louder and angrier and probably have access to a time machine too given their tendencies to predict the companies next failings. It seems to be a text only issue, because there are some posters here I talk to on Skype occasionally who I know have criticisms on the product but are rarely as angry or as cynical about it as it may appear on the board if they say the exact same thing. (Funny thing is, they know I'm not all sunshine and lollipops on the product, either)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 23:55:02 GMT -5
No, because I went to the worst event myself.
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Post by Some Guy on Dec 19, 2016 0:01:10 GMT -5
The hell it ain't, not with that New Day v Sheamus/Cesaro match on it. Enjoyed most of the card, actually. Nothing against you guys, but it helps a lot when you're actually by yourself and you can judge things without being skewed by the masses. I came on here during because I was bored as f*** watching by myself
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Post by Shai on Dec 19, 2016 0:03:13 GMT -5
I felt like you called people sheep. THAT'S what I personally took offense to. You liked it great. A lot of people didn't. OK, I apologise for causing offence. Implying that the critics are "sheep" was definitely never the intent. It's just a bit overwhelming when there are many posters here who are very vocal with their criticisms, as legitimate as they may be even if I don't agree with them, and it gets like shooting a popgun against a rocket launcher... They're louder and angrier and probably have access to a time machine too given their tendencies to predict the companies next failings. It seems to be a text only issue, because there are some posters here I talk to on Skype occasionally who I know have criticisms on the product but are rarely as angry or as cynical about it as it may appear on the board if they say the exact same thing. (Funny thing is, they know I'm not all sunshine and lollipops on the product, either) I don't know anymore. Raw threads are toxic right now and that's not just here. You should see how it gets in the wrestling group I help mod on Facebook.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 19, 2016 0:03:56 GMT -5
Let's not blame people hating the card on being "Skewed by the masses" dude, if I had watched this shit by myself I would have hated it just as much. Like feel free to like it but stop devaluing opinions like that on the other end. He's got a point though, not this card mind ya, but a good point. I cannot count the number of times I've watched a show without being in the live threads and loved them, only to see the people who dominate those threads shitting all over it. You know, maybe they didn't like it but so many seem to rush off for jokes and shots at things they miss the meat of a show and miss that the very things they complain about not happening actually happened. Yeah shows have sucked but I'll agree that the live threads have made them worse than improved then recently. Its still peoples opinions, I don't think its right to conclude that it's the threads that make people think that way.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2016 0:05:21 GMT -5
Wrestlemania this year was one of the worst booked PPVs I've ever seen, so no. You don't like Rock wasting everyone's time for like 20 minutes?
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Dec 19, 2016 0:06:39 GMT -5
Wrestlemania this year was one of the worst booked PPVs I've ever seen, so no. You don't like Rock wasting everyone's time for like 20 minutes? Rock f***ing around for 20 minutes was probably one of the better parts of the show, honestly.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2016 0:08:29 GMT -5
You don't like Rock wasting everyone's time for like 20 minutes? Rock f***ing around for 20 minutes was probably one of the better parts of the show, honestly. I wouldn't have minded as much, but it came so late in the show, I just thought "oh shit, the main event is going to run over so bad". That's what made me hate it, otherwise, I might have laughed it off.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 19, 2016 0:09:36 GMT -5
I felt like you called people sheep. THAT'S what I personally took offense to. You liked it great. A lot of people didn't. OK, I apologise for causing offence. Implying that the critics are "sheep" was definitely never the intent. It's just a bit overwhelming when there are many posters here who are very vocal with their criticisms, as legitimate as they may be even if I don't agree with them, and it gets like shooting a popgun against a rocket launcher... They're louder and angrier and probably have access to a time machine too given their tendencies to predict the companies next failings. It seems to be a text only issue, because there are some posters here I talk to on Skype occasionally who I know have criticisms on the product but are rarely as angry or as cynical about it as it may appear on the board if they say the exact same thing. (Funny thing is, they know I'm not all sunshine and lollipops on the product, either) I just think its all subjective. To say some people would enjoy it out of the threads to me could be a fact but for everyone I do not believe it would be the case. People just voice their opinions where they can, and FAN is that place for some, including myself. Some people like that, some people like you may not find it the best sometimes. I understand if it can overwhelm, but at the same time, all WWE has to do is write competently for me, and I'll praise them.
I liked New/Day Cesaro, I liked Psycho Elf Neville. The rest was a boring, plodding shitshow that I would have hated regardless of where I was. There is a dynamic of watching it with friends and or live, but regardless, I think it's just hard to blame peoples thoughts on RAW or otherwise on the threads they participate in. It's very much more on the company itself right now... because Ill tell you what, Smackdown Threads are pretty damn nice...
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 19, 2016 0:09:46 GMT -5
You don't like Rock wasting everyone's time for like 20 minutes? Rock f***ing around for 20 minutes was probably one of the better parts of the show, honestly. That f***ing Lesnar vs. Ambrose match was the dirt worst.
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