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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 19, 2016 9:14:22 GMT -5
WM32 was a pretty weak Mania, but it had better actual wrestling than Clash of Champs so that gets my pick.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 19, 2016 9:19:13 GMT -5
WrestleMania was embarrassingly bad, much more than Roadblock.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 19, 2016 10:26:49 GMT -5
Nah, I thought Summerslam was worse due to length. This was a bad show though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 10:29:20 GMT -5
As stupid as this show was, it wasn't the worst. New Day losing the belts should allow for singles competition & heel Neville is best Neville.
Clash was the worst show as I have yet to watch WrestleMania.
New Day vs. Club was boring, the women's match was a mess, Sheamus vs. Cesaro got a Bullshit chant, Roman has done jack squat with the US belt, & that main event was average at best.
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Post by corndog on Dec 19, 2016 11:13:34 GMT -5
I didn't hate WM as much as most, but I didn't watch it live. Also, there were some good matches in the IC title ladder match, the women's triple threat(match of the night, easily) and Jericho/AJ was solid although not their best match. I can't remember Night of the Champions, so I will call it a tie. Either way, the Raw PPVs have been hot garbage since the brand split and it keeps me from going back to Raw.
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Post by Hanzo on Dec 19, 2016 11:19:16 GMT -5
You should never expect a lot out of throwaway PPVs. Ninety-something percent of the time, they'll just be average.
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Post by BRV on Dec 19, 2016 11:24:40 GMT -5
If you took everything that happened at Roadblock and put it on Monday Night Raw, we'd be calling it a pretty good episode of Raw. But for a pay-per-view, it was pretty terrible.
Nothing had consequence or advanced storylines. Sure, The New Day lost their Tag Team Championships, but after they broke Demolition's record, we all knew that was an inevitability. Meanwhile, Cesaro and Sheamus still can't get along after multiple vignettes of them appearing to mend fences. Sami Zayn took Braun Stroman to the limit, but that's just going to lead to Stroman decimating Zayn on Raw tonight. The Rollins/Jericho/Reigns/Owens story is in exactly the same place it was entering Roadblock. I haven't read any reviews of the Iron Man match, but it was everything that I hate about Iron Man matches - the first 90 percent of the match is absolutely irrelevant because the only thing anybody cares about is the final few minutes. Matches with a designated end time never work because it removes all drama.
I don't know if it was the worst pay-per-view of the year, but it was exceptionally bad. As good as the brand split has been for SmackDown, it's been equally as bad for Raw.
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Post by WinOwensWin on Dec 19, 2016 13:15:42 GMT -5
I was there live and I loved it.
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Post by segaz on Dec 20, 2016 0:09:46 GMT -5
He's got a point though, not this card mind ya, but a good point. I cannot count the number of times I've watched a show without being in the live threads and loved them, only to see the people who dominate those threads shitting all over it. You know, maybe they didn't like it but so many seem to rush off for jokes and shots at things they miss the meat of a show and miss that the very things they complain about not happening actually happened. Yeah shows have sucked but I'll agree that the live threads have made them worse than improved then recently. Its still peoples opinions, I don't think its right to conclude that it's the threads that make people think that way. I think you aren't stupid and you know what is being meant here. No one is saying that everyone must love everything and that opinions don't matter. But it's not healthy to put forth the attitude that it's ok to spew hate and skewer facts constantly. No matter what the outcome of a match, there will be somebody in the world who disagrees with it. That's ok. But it feels like there is always a group, or different groups of people who are just waiting to slate the entire show, the entire year and the entire company because of a few things they don't like. I haven't been impressed with the WWE so far this year. Take the Goldberg/lesnar match for an example. I disagreed with the outcome. But I didn't kneejerk post right after the show saying f the wwe f everything they do and even Goldbergs trunks look bad, that part time santa claus wannabe. Over the next few threads afterwards, I will make my opinion known definitely. But.....I will discuss how we can go from here and actually acknowledge the ways in which it was good and helped the company and the fans, even if I didn't like it myself, and that last part of the attitude makes all the difference. Respect for the company and the athletes doing their best to put on a good show. Of course the pendulum can swing too far etc and we need to be able to admit when things are bad like no seemingly never ending authority angle. But the cool thing these days is always to be cynical and disrespectful no matter what the occasion. Even watching wwe 95/96 I find myself enjoying it quite a bit, even if I strongly disagree with the direction of the company at that time, and I think people are forgetting that they can do that. It seems that people want to be empowered to be disrespectful, and if you suggest they perhaps try to enjoy the show on some level, jokers come in talking about brainwashing and the thought police and if you want to say something sucks you will do and if I don't like it, tough cookie, you're your own man, beholden to no one except whatever you frigging well please at any time. You're an American for crying out loud, not a slave. You're a free individual who won't be held down by the system. You'll stand up for the right to say anything at any time. It's your constitutional right, nay, your duty to do so and the forefathers didn't die for nothing. You're not a hero. You're just a consumer who is tired of being controlled and told to smile and clap on command like a trained seal. You'll fight for the right of every man. Don't label people as sheep, that's offensive. You wish Roadblock would just go the flip away. You don't get the WWE. Never have, never will. You've been having some weird thoughts lately. Like, are the WWE for real? Or not? In your restless opinions, you see that wrestling ppv, roadblock. You were promised by Stephanie McMahon that you'd be given quality entertainment again some day, but you never were. Well, you're alone there now. In your special place. You don't wanna be treated like a hater. Don't wanna be treated like a fanboy. Don't want people to think they know you, want to be treated for just who you are. Then you remember that you don't have to be negative all the time, even when you don't like something, and despite being told otherwise, that's a sign of maturity. Or you say you're not an American after all. Either way, we're both winners here. You see that, right? I respect your opinion and such, if you dislike Roadblock, more power to you. I don't think it was the worst thing ever, and it needed improvement, but still there were some good moments in the show. Long story short, let's try not to blindly hate, just because they're the 'big bad corporation who only want your money'.
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