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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 8, 2017 22:15:50 GMT -5
Re: Nero
He was stupid on all counts. If he went back in time, as has been mentioned, he could have warned Romulus and they could have evacuated the planet. He also has no reason whatsoever to blame Spock or the Vulcans in general. Vulcan is a Federation planet. The Federation are under no obligation at all to help the Romulans. The Romulans were willing to sit back and do nothing when the Federation was being attacked by the Dominion (who would have inevitably turned on the Romulans after defeating the Federation and Klingons. In fact several years earlier, Spock had tried to make peace between the Vulcans and Romulans, but he was betrayed...by Romulans!
Screw the Romulans. They've always been dicks.
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Post by Shark on Jan 8, 2017 22:24:57 GMT -5
Lex Luthor in Batman v Superman. He wanted to take out the latter because of daddy issues. Lex Goofthor in Batman vs. Superman has to be the patron saint. I still have no idea why the f*** he was doing anything. any time it seemed like his motives were getting explained they would change to be something else. Lex hated his father. He hated God for not protecting him from his father. Superman shows up and is worshipped as a God by much of the planet. Lex now has a physical representation of God that he can get revenge on for what he went through growing up. He is out to show Superman is not a God. Either Batman kills Superman and shows he is not all powerful or Superman kills Batman and shows he is not good. Lex even says as much to Superman on the tower. It's all spelled out in the movie. People were just too jaded to pay attention.
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Post by Cela on Jan 9, 2017 1:23:02 GMT -5
Diclaimers: I know it's a kid's movie, and I know there were extensive rewrites halfway through the movie when they wrote that damn song, but...
Frozen. Why the hell would Hans prevent Elsa from being killed by random crossbows if his plan was to kill the sisters and take over?
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 9, 2017 1:49:16 GMT -5
The film professor in Urban Legend 2 being revealed as the killer: he killed the main girl's boyfriend to steal his film to submit for an award, and was trying to kill her because her father had beaten him for the same award 20 years earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 1:58:34 GMT -5
In Anal Avengers 12, Dr Bonerblow clearly wanted to defeat Shockermaster and The Steamer. Yet, in Anal Avengers 14 they can clearly be seen working together to show the Cockasaurus invaders the true meaning of love. There was nothing in the 13th installment that would have changed the Doctor's motivation at all! It's like they are just making shit up all willy nilly! *Googles Anal Avengers* That's enough internet for the day.
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Post by Cela on Jan 9, 2017 4:11:35 GMT -5
Lex Luthor in Batman v Superman. He wanted to take out the latter because of daddy issues. Lex Goofthor in Batman vs. Superman has to be the patron saint. I still have no idea why the f*** he was doing anything. any time it seemed like his motives were getting explained they would change to be something else. Lex hated his father. He hated God for not protecting him from his father. Superman shows up and is worshipped as a God by much of the planet. Lex now has a physical representation of God that he can get revenge on for what he went through growing up. He is out to show Superman is not a God. Either Batman kills Superman and shows he is not all powerful or Superman kills Batman and shows he is not good. Lex even says as much to Superman on the tower. It's all spelled out in the movie. People were just too jaded to pay attention. Most people paid attention. Once through the rambling, it was clear, it was just a crappy motivation. Hell, it would have worked really well if they gave him Bruce Wayne's intro trying to save people in Gotham. Not like they needed a twist of Lex being the bad guy. Could still tie in the God is All Powerful not equal God is All Good mentality with that. But they made it about his dad, which is a little lame. Then again the good guys made it about their mom. Maybe it's best to just forget about this one...
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Post by dav on Jan 9, 2017 6:56:25 GMT -5
The main villain from Skyfall. He wanted M to suffer and yet had all those means right with him the entire movie. Letting himself get captured made no sense and was pointless. It was a really good Bond film up to that point as well.
Also, if you diabolical scheme relies on the London Underground running on time, get a different scheme.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 9, 2017 9:33:03 GMT -5
Lex Luthor in Batman v Superman. He wanted to take out the latter because of daddy issues. Lex Goofthor in Batman vs. Superman has to be the patron saint. I still have no idea why the f*** he was doing anything. any time it seemed like his motives were getting explained they would change to be something else. Lex hated his father. He hated God for not protecting him from his father. Superman shows up and is worshipped as a God by much of the planet. Lex now has a physical representation of God that he can get revenge on for what he went through growing up. He is out to show Superman is not a God. Either Batman kills Superman and shows he is not all powerful or Superman kills Batman and shows he is not good. Lex even says as much to Superman on the tower. It's all spelled out in the movie. People were just too jaded to pay attention. jaded nothing. if tht WAS his motivation congratulations for finding it but the movie did a horrible job of presenting it. the crux of his motive keeps changing. "absolute power is evil". "wait, I hate Superman because daddy issues". "wait, no, I hate him because Darkseid or whatever". don't go pre-supposing how I watched the movie. they did a terrible job of explaining his motivations and it was one of the central fulcrums of why the movie was a catastrophic dog turd.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 9, 2017 9:57:51 GMT -5
Kind of a stretch, but the various people in Captain America: Civil War blaming the Avengers for the death of their loved ones. The footage literally shows them fighting legions of robots and aliens bent on wiping out all life, while the avengers themselves desperately try to save people. But who do we blame? THE AVENGERS! Maybe if you weren't hanging out on the street taking selfies, #Apocalypse, you wouldn't be hit by falling debris! Worse yet, half of them go along with it. Sorry, I couldn't get past the turn of phrase "Kind of a stretch" being right after two post talking about Anal Adventures.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jan 9, 2017 10:12:07 GMT -5
The problem with most villains is that even if they conquer the whole planet all they would be able to think about is how to conquer the sky next.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 9, 2017 18:04:22 GMT -5
Okay I could see if the context of Bucky being an assasin isn't public knowledge that being the case. And yeah the only time I questioned being Team Cap was him not telling Tony about his parents right away. That was a supremely shitty move. Even then, Cap basically is making the decision on what to do with Bucky completely unilaterally when, as Civil War proved, anyone with the magic words could get Bucky to run off and assassinate any world leader he chose. And given how pervasive Hydra is, they might be better off if Bucky was in custody and actually trying to get help, or working with Bucky to try to work around Hydra, Cap is basically "Nope, this unstable brainwashed assassin should roam free because he was my friend 80 years ago." Nevermind all the families of the people he killed that could be given closure after all those years, all the information that could be gotten to counteract Hydra, and so on, Cap appoints himself to be judge on the Hydra assassin. I don't know, I was on Tony's side in thinking that demigods shouldn't have just carte blanch to do whatever they wanted however they saw fit. Cap didn't trust Ross. Cap thought the second he wasn't looking Ross would just put a bullet in Bucky's head rather then actually try to help him. Diclaimers: I know it's a kid's movie, and I know there were extensive rewrites halfway through the movie when they wrote that damn song, but... Frozen. Why the hell would Hans prevent Elsa from being killed by random crossbows if his plan was to kill the sisters and take over? I've always loved the fan theory that Hans wasn't evil and really wasn't looking to take over the Kingdom (at least not consciously) and was just an innocent dupe of the Rock Trolls who were manipulating him into being the villain so they could marry their own chosen one, Kristoff, into the Royal Family.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 9, 2017 18:14:53 GMT -5
Hammond's nephew in The Lost World.
There was no need to travel to Site B to capture live dinosaurs in order to bring them to Jurassic Park: San Diego. InGen probably would have had embryoes in storage (as mentioned in the book), or could just get Henry Wu to breed more. They could have also just gone to Site B and killed the animals rather than capturing them. As long as you take a DNA sample from the corpse, you can clone them again.
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Post by H-Virus on Jan 9, 2017 20:31:27 GMT -5
Diclaimers: I know it's a kid's movie, and I know there were extensive rewrites halfway through the movie when they wrote that damn song, but... Frozen. Why the hell would Hans prevent Elsa from being killed by random crossbows if his plan was to kill the sisters and take over? He didn't want her to die yet because he still needed her. He wants to rule Arandelle, yes, but he's not going to want to rule over a frozen wasteland, and since there's no guarantee that killing Elsa will stop the storm, he needs her alive at least long enough to do something about it. Unfortunately for him, when they talk later in the dungeon, Elsa admits that she doesn't know how to stop it. It's not until after he's convinced the council members that Anna had died after exchanging wedding vows with him that he decides to kill Elsa, because NOW doing so would lead to him becoming the 'rightful' king as well as a hero to the kingdom for avenging the princess and getting rid of the 'evil' queen who cursed their kingdom. That's what I got out of the story, anyway.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 9, 2017 21:24:47 GMT -5
The agents from the Matrix series.
Now it's been a long time since I've seen it. But from what I remember the One is required in order to reboot the system to stop everything from being destroyed. So once Neo is revealed to be the One why does the system continue to fight him knowing how important he is to its survival?
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 9, 2017 21:37:29 GMT -5
In Anal Avengers 12, Dr Bonerblow clearly wanted to defeat Shockermaster and The Steamer. Yet, in Anal Avengers 14 they can clearly be seen working together to show the Cockasaurus invaders the true meaning of love. There was nothing in the 13th installment that would have changed the Doctor's motivation at all! It's like they are just making shit up all willy nilly! It was explained in the expanded universe novel "Anal Avengers: the Quest for Puss". I won't spoil it for you because the twist is amazing. {Spoiler}A sexy wizard did it.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 9, 2017 22:53:27 GMT -5
The agents from the Matrix series. Now it's been a long time since I've seen it. But from what I remember the One is required in order to reboot the system to stop everything from being destroyed. So once Neo is revealed to be the One why does the system continue to fight him knowing how important he is to its survival? Because all that shit the Architect said was just made up to extend a franchise that didn't need a second or third part.
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Post by zrowsdower on Jan 13, 2017 13:58:34 GMT -5
Samuel L. Jackson in Unbreakable. I haven't seen the movie in awhile, and maybe I missed something, but his motives seemed dumb.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 13, 2017 14:27:37 GMT -5
Samuel L. Jackson in Unbreakable. I haven't seen the movie in awhile, and maybe I missed something, but his motives seemed dumb. His entire plan is dependent on his arch enemy living in the Philadelphia metropolitan area.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 13, 2017 18:54:12 GMT -5
Samuel L. Jackson in Unbreakable. I haven't seen the movie in awhile, and maybe I missed something, but his motives seemed dumb. I think this is another guy who you have to lump into the "he's crazy so his motives might not really make sense" category.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 13, 2017 19:14:49 GMT -5
Magneto in the X-Men cinematic universe. Not that it doesn't make sense but it doesn't make sense why he'd hold unto his motivations. Homey should know by X-Men 3 that it just won't work.
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