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Post by malloc on Jan 8, 2017 12:03:24 GMT -5
So I was watching heartbreak ridge a 1986 Clint Eastwood movie where he plays a drill Sarget that has to whip a recon platoon in to shape. A silly movie where nearly every line out of clint's mouth is an insult. Now the problem I have with this movie is that I can't understand why clints commanding officer has a problem with Clint wanting to make the recon platoon into good soldiers. Major Powers couldn't care less about the Recon. Now I don't know to much about the US marine core structure in the 80's but surely you want your recon squad to be the best as They are the people you send out to report on the enemy give you good intel. If your recon gets annihilated because of poor training you are left with a major hole in you deployment? Major Powers is a bad officer who only cared about one platoon under his command.
Any other bad guys in movies or higher ups that the protagonist has to get around or subvert that ticked you off?
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 8, 2017 12:21:56 GMT -5
Blofeld's behaviour in the Daniel Craig Bond movies.
Spectre have already basically taken over the world with massive influence among governments and corporations. It was going fine until they stupidly decided to mess with Bond for Blofeld's idiotic personal grudge. I half expected Number Two to appear and point out the absurdity of it all.
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Post by malloc on Jan 8, 2017 12:32:53 GMT -5
Garry oldman wanting the universe to end in fith element. How was he going to spend his wealth? I am sure there is some important point that explains it it's been a while since I have seen the film
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 8, 2017 12:49:13 GMT -5
Garry oldman wanting the universe to end in fith element. How was he going to spend his wealth? I am sure there is some important point that explains it it's been a while since I have seen the film Gonna assume Mr. Shadow had told him that the talk about wiping out all life was just myth and superstition, though it really should've been addressed in the movie.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 8, 2017 12:58:50 GMT -5
Garry oldman wanting the universe to end in fith element. How was he going to spend his wealth? I am sure there is some important point that explains it it's been a while since I have seen the film Gonna assume Mr. Shadow had told him that the talk about wiping out all life was just myth and superstition, though it really should've been addressed in the movie. Yeah, Zorg is in it for the money and/or power and as far as I remember, nothing in the movie shows that Zorg has any idea what Mr. Shadow / the Great Evil is planning. Alternately, considering Zorg starts sweating blood when talking to it, he could just be scared shitless and hope to be spared if he goes along with it. And frankly, considering how in real life, countless multinational companies owners' reaction to being asked to take measures to stop releasing so much greenhouse gas is "but mah money!", I assure you there are plenty of people like that who have no problem assisting in the destruction of Humanity including themselves as long they have the richest corpse around.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 8, 2017 13:05:10 GMT -5
In Anal Avengers 12, Dr Bonerblow clearly wanted to defeat Shockermaster and The Steamer. Yet, in Anal Avengers 14 they can clearly be seen working together to show the Cockasaurus invaders the true meaning of love. There was nothing in the 13th installment that would have changed the Doctor's motivation at all! It's like they are just making shit up all willy nilly!
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 8, 2017 13:25:32 GMT -5
In Anal Avengers 12, Dr Bonerblow clearly wanted to defeat Shockermaster and The Steamer. Yet, in Anal Avengers 14 they can clearly be seen working together to show the Cockasaurus invaders the true meaning of love. There was nothing in the 13th installment that would have changed the Doctor's motivation at all! It's like they are just making shit up all willy nilly! It was explained in the expanded universe novel "Anal Avengers: the Quest for Puss". I won't spoil it for you because the twist is amazing.
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Post by Cela on Jan 8, 2017 14:08:16 GMT -5
Kind of a stretch, but the various people in Captain America: Civil War blaming the Avengers for the death of their loved ones. The footage literally shows them fighting legions of robots and aliens bent on wiping out all life, while the avengers themselves desperately try to save people. But who do we blame? THE AVENGERS! Maybe if you weren't hanging out on the street taking selfies, #Apocalypse, you wouldn't be hit by falling debris!
Worse yet, half of them go along with it.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 8, 2017 14:38:42 GMT -5
The Company in the Aliens franchise. I can understand them wanting to acquire a xenomorph specimen in the first film. But when you got to the fourth one you would think it would have finally set in that they can't control these creatures and attempting to breed them is suicide.,
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jan 8, 2017 14:53:28 GMT -5
Lex Luthor in Batman v Superman. He wanted to take out the latter because of daddy issues.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 8, 2017 15:01:24 GMT -5
Said it before on one of the SW threads, but Palpatine ruined his own plans. He said he wants the Sith to rule the galaxy, but the Sith became rulers of the galaxy as soon as he was elected chancellor. He won. Everything he did after that was completely pointless and caused unnecessary problems for himself. All the stuff about wiping out the Jedi and creating an Empire was stupid shit that he didn't need to do.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 8, 2017 16:08:20 GMT -5
the motivations themselves aren't stupid but Zod in Man of Steel actively works against his own motivation of wanting to remake Krypton as a military superpower pretty much every time he does anything in it.
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Post by Shai on Jan 8, 2017 16:11:22 GMT -5
Kind of a stretch, but the various people in Captain America: Civil War blaming the Avengers for the death of their loved ones. The footage literally shows them fighting legions of robots and aliens bent on wiping out all life, while the avengers themselves desperately try to save people. But who do we blame? THE AVENGERS! Maybe if you weren't hanging out on the street taking selfies, #Apocalypse, you wouldn't be hit by falling debris! Worse yet, half of them go along with it. I get blaming Tony in AoU through. He did build Ultron and use the mind stone to jumpstart him when I think Bruce repeatedly said it was a bad idea.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 8, 2017 16:23:41 GMT -5
Kind of a stretch, but the various people in Captain America: Civil War blaming the Avengers for the death of their loved ones. The footage literally shows them fighting legions of robots and aliens bent on wiping out all life, while the avengers themselves desperately try to save people. But who do we blame? THE AVENGERS! Maybe if you weren't hanging out on the street taking selfies, #Apocalypse, you wouldn't be hit by falling debris! Worse yet, half of them go along with it. I get blaming Tony in AoU through. He did build Ultron and use the mind stone to jumpstart him when I think Bruce repeatedly said it was a bad idea. and Tony knew that the other Avengers especially Cap wouldn't like it.
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Post by General Adam on Jan 8, 2017 16:27:01 GMT -5
Die Another Day. Miranda Frost betrayed her country, sold military secrets, and had one of the best agents captured, so she can win SECOND PLACE in a fencing competition. God I hate that movie so much.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 8, 2017 16:49:20 GMT -5
Kind of a stretch, but the various people in Captain America: Civil War blaming the Avengers for the death of their loved ones. The footage literally shows them fighting legions of robots and aliens bent on wiping out all life, while the avengers themselves desperately try to save people. But who do we blame? THE AVENGERS! Maybe if you weren't hanging out on the street taking selfies, #Apocalypse, you wouldn't be hit by falling debris! Worse yet, half of them go along with it. I mean, that one really makes sense to me. People have seen the amount of weird crap going on jump form nothing to really, really high in a very short mount of time, and it all correlates with the Avengers showing up. Yes, they saw the Avengers saving people, sure. They also saw Hulk rampage in the middle of multiple cities with no repercussions, Tony shirk any oversight from Congress before blasting through Vegas with impunity, and the headquarters of multinational corporation Pym Technologies flat out disappear, and likely all the jobs associated with it (and while they wouldn't know if the avengers had any role in that, it couldn't be counted out to people considering they are literally the only supernatural beings known to the public), in addition to that street bombing. It makes sense that people would begin to get anxious over the fact that the Avengers have no oversight and absolute impunity in whatever they do. And that's just assuming that they don't know that Ultron was a Stark creation, Loki tried to conquer Earth because of Thor, The Destroyer was sent to New Mexico because of an Asgardian family squabble, Mandarin killed a bunch of people because Tony left him on a roof one day, or that Captain America is friends with mass murdering assassin Bucky Barnes.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 8, 2017 16:55:54 GMT -5
I get blaming Tony in AoU through. He did build Ultron and use the mind stone to jumpstart him when I think Bruce repeatedly said it was a bad idea. and Tony knew that the other Avengers especially Cap wouldn't like it. To be fair, Tony's mind was recently affected by Scarlet Witch, who showed him a vision of his Avenger friends dying at the hands of a massive alien threat, so that was likely influencing his choice to go ahead with the Ultron project.
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Post by Shai on Jan 8, 2017 17:07:03 GMT -5
Kind of a stretch, but the various people in Captain America: Civil War blaming the Avengers for the death of their loved ones. The footage literally shows them fighting legions of robots and aliens bent on wiping out all life, while the avengers themselves desperately try to save people. But who do we blame? THE AVENGERS! Maybe if you weren't hanging out on the street taking selfies, #Apocalypse, you wouldn't be hit by falling debris! Worse yet, half of them go along with it. I mean, that one really makes sense to me. People have seen the amount of weird crap going on jump form nothing to really, really high in a very short mount of time, and it all correlates with the Avengers showing up. Yes, they saw the Avengers saving people, sure. They also saw Hulk rampage in the middle of multiple cities with no repercussions, Tony shirk any oversight from Congress before blasting through Vegas with impunity, and the headquarters of multinational corporation Pym Technologies flat out disappear, and likely all the jobs associated with it (and while they wouldn't know if the avengers had any role in that, it couldn't be counted out to people considering they are literally the only supernatural beings known to the public), in addition to that street bombing. It makes sense that people would begin to get anxious over the fact that the Avengers have no oversight and absolute impunity in whatever they do. And that's just assuming that they don't know that Ultron was a Stark creation, Loki tried to conquer Earth because of Thor, The Destroyer was sent to New Mexico because of an Asgardian family squabble, Mandarin killed a bunch of people because Tony left him on a roof one day, or that Captain America is friends with mass murdering assassin Bucky Barnes. I agree with all of that except for the part about Bucky. Cap seems to be the ONLY one seeing the Bucky thing clearly. Dude was tortured, experimented on and brainwashed for 70 YEARS. Bucky is in no way at fault for becoming a mass murderer.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 8, 2017 17:15:27 GMT -5
I mean, that one really makes sense to me. People have seen the amount of weird crap going on jump form nothing to really, really high in a very short mount of time, and it all correlates with the Avengers showing up. Yes, they saw the Avengers saving people, sure. They also saw Hulk rampage in the middle of multiple cities with no repercussions, Tony shirk any oversight from Congress before blasting through Vegas with impunity, and the headquarters of multinational corporation Pym Technologies flat out disappear, and likely all the jobs associated with it (and while they wouldn't know if the avengers had any role in that, it couldn't be counted out to people considering they are literally the only supernatural beings known to the public), in addition to that street bombing. It makes sense that people would begin to get anxious over the fact that the Avengers have no oversight and absolute impunity in whatever they do. And that's just assuming that they don't know that Ultron was a Stark creation, Loki tried to conquer Earth because of Thor, The Destroyer was sent to New Mexico because of an Asgardian family squabble, Mandarin killed a bunch of people because Tony left him on a roof one day, or that Captain America is friends with mass murdering assassin Bucky Barnes. I agree with all of that except for the part about Bucky. Cap seems to be the ONLY one seeing the Bucky thing clearly. Dude was tortured, experimented on and brainwashed for 70 YEARS. Bucky is in no way at fault for becoming a mass murderer. But all anyone knows about Bucky is that he's wanted for murder and has killed a lot of people, sometimes in the middle of broad daylight. If anyone knew that Cap was chill with him and wanted him to escape without so much as a trial to prove that Bucky wasn't responsible for what he did when he was under the influence of the magic words, that'd give even more ammo to wanting the Avengers monitored. Although I will say that Cap ws an absolute weasel for not telling Tony about Bucky's role in their death.
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Post by Shai on Jan 8, 2017 17:20:39 GMT -5
I agree with all of that except for the part about Bucky. Cap seems to be the ONLY one seeing the Bucky thing clearly. Dude was tortured, experimented on and brainwashed for 70 YEARS. Bucky is in no way at fault for becoming a mass murderer. But all anyone knows about Bucky is that he's wanted for murder and has killed a lot of people, sometimes in the middle of broad daylight. If anyone knew that Cap was chill with him and wanted him to escape without so much as a trial to prove that Bucky wasn't responsible for what he did when he was under the influence of the magic words, that'd give even more ammo to wanting the Avengers monitored. Although I will say that Cap ws an absolute weasel for not telling Tony about Bucky's role in their death. Okay I could see if the context of Bucky being an assasin isn't public knowledge that being the case. And yeah the only time I questioned being Team Cap was him not telling Tony about his parents right away. That was a supremely shitty move.
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