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Post by Nickybojelais on Feb 15, 2017 18:55:28 GMT -5
Gene Mean salivating over Brother Bruti's genitals never fails to amuse me.
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Post by chronocross on Feb 15, 2017 20:01:54 GMT -5
Steamboat/Snuka were known as the South Pacific Connection, it was short-lived, they did win a tag team battle royal at the Spectrum a month after Wrestlemania 1. I heard Billy Martin was plastered during WM1, it sounds like he introduced Orndorff as 292 pounds. Too bad they can't keep the original music for obvious reasons, it's cool hearing Phil Collins' "Easy Lover" as the intro and the Beverly Hills Cop theme as the outro. Mr.T was beyond blown up after the main event, could barely put words together for the post-match promo.
WM2: Not a good way to start the show with a double countout, awful. I remember George mentioning in a shoot that Tito vs Randy was what they wanted to go with, but the Savage/Steele angle was more over with the folks at NBC so they went with that. I saw footage of George Wells in Mid-South a year or two prior and he was in much better shape there, the visual of him with the snake choking him is disgusting. The Battle Royal was interesting, I liked the double hiptoss spot where Perry rolled through and nearly eliminated the Harts. Hogan/Bundy was okay, Bundy bleeding always looked weird to me, I dunno.
WM3: My favorite Mania by far, it really lived up to the hype and had the attendance to add to the atmosphere.
If Tom Zenk wasn't such an asshole, these guys could've been the tag champions, the Can-Ams were over.
During the Billy Jack Haynes shoot he mentioned that Herc didn't have his usual black knee pads and boots and had to borrow them from someone else.
The Coliseum Video version edited out the part in the match where JYD gives Harley an abdominal stretch, it urked me because in the post-WM3 stills, they showed that and I remember watching that match several times making sure I didn't miss it.
I think they edited out the fan running into the ring to hug Piper after his win over Adonis, I really liked the match and the feud lasted about a year, hard to find that these days.
I liked Bob Uecker's enthusiasm, you can tell he was into the product.
Savage/Steamboat was definitely match of the night, I remember watching the backbody drop over the top rope spot over and over back in the day.
Someone finally released that rare 1st theme for Honky Tonk Man on youtube a while back, I guess it wasn't a WWF produced theme.
Hogan slamming Andre is my favorite WM moment, the crowd erupted and definitely sent the fans home happy that night.
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Post by BorneAgain on Feb 15, 2017 20:26:54 GMT -5
The Savage/Hogan story that kicks off in 88 is fantastic, and you can see it in the PPV interactions the two have over the next 12 months.
Wrestlemania: Full blown babyface friendship with Savage embracing Hogan.
Summerslam: Another big celebration.. but Hulk's hug with Liz gets the briefest jealous look from Savage.
Survivor Series: The PPV goes off the air with Hogan obliviously celebrating, Savage staring daggers at him, and Liz just starting to realize Randy's angry expression.
Royal Rumble: The Megapowers almost come to blows with Savage just barely calming down.
Wrestlemania V: The friendship destructs completely.
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 15, 2017 21:04:59 GMT -5
Wrestlemania IV This was the first Wrestlemania that I saw live. My cousin's husband was really into the whole satellite dish thing in the 80s and he managed to get the feed on his TV. Only problem was there was no sound. Because of that this is actually one of my favorite Manias. The Coliseum version of this show has an amazing opening where they show shots of the boardwalk that are all quiet and peaceful that suddenly cut to shots of the wrestlers. They're not full body shots, it's like something to represent each one. Like you see a Strike Force shirt or Jimmy Hart putting on his glasses. I think it's much more effective than what's here. Bam Bam Bigelow's music sounds a lot like the music they used to use for Wrestling Spotlight but I'm not sure if it actually is I loved the WM IV opener. WWF (I think exclusive to CHV) had some great openers or intermission packages which would showcase the arena/city or festivities surrounding the PPVs. Any time I hear a seagull, I think of the WM IV opener. WM IV was the only PPV I can think of where Coliseum adds more to the tape and really doesn't edit anything. The earlier Wrestlemanias and the first two Survivor Series' were usually cut to hell. I bought the 1998 edition of IV expecting some extras but most of the CV exclusives weren't on there. The Bam Bam theme was actually used for 1991 Prime Time intro for Vince and Bobby. I love that theme and it's hard to find. Most people use the 1987 Coliseum intro for Bam Bam on youtube. Uecker was definatly enjoying himself, should have done a few more manias. The "Vance White" thing confused me so much. It kind of killed the whole chasing after Vanna gimmick. I think Regis Philbin should get a celebrity induction to the Hall of Fame. That guy LOVED wrestling and had a lot of wrestlers on his show, even when wrestling may not have been so popular. Most shows would have wrestlers on in the mid 80s with the Rock N Wrestling boom and the late 90s with the Monday Night Wars or Attitude Era but Regis had them on so many times. His WrestleMania VII appearance is really small for how much he loved wrestling and it's a shame fans may only know his involvement with wrestling for those few minutes. With the celebrities at WrestleMania, you'd think Vince McMahon or one of the stooges would educate them on the product or the wrestlers. I think Alex Trebek was being funny calling Mean Gene "Jim" but it came off as just another celeb not knowing who was who.
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Post by Ludwig Kaiser’s Walk on Feb 15, 2017 21:44:20 GMT -5
I really enjoy going through the early years and watching Hercules' progression into a pissed-off, roided out of his mind jobber to the stars. That guy sucked.
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Post by lildude8218 on Feb 15, 2017 22:10:59 GMT -5
Wrestlemania V
On the original broadcast, Rockin' Robin completely botched her opening number. She either froze or couldn't hear the music. She shouldn't have been doing this in the first place and was gone soon after this anyway.
On the original broadcast, Fink screws up and announces King Haku as "King Tonga." They've fixed it here and if you don't know it's fixed you can barely tell.
This is kind of weird since Hercules never really went after Heenan for selling him to DiBiase. This match was just kind of thrown together without any real build up.
There's Herc's back suplex double pin finish again.
Shawn Michaels trying to piss off Akeem during the tag match is pretty funny
Twin Towers actually had some pretty decent tandem offense
"I believe he irritated Akeem."
Top rope double dropkicks are one of the most dangerous moves ever and so easily botched
Bossman with one of the first powerbombs I had ever seen
Tony Schiavone before puberty
DiBiase still without music. Beefcake finally has music.
This is a match with no real stakes. Instead we get WM5's equivalent of the Rude/Roberts match from last year. Beefcake was about to go into a program with Savage so he couldn't lose here. DiBiase was sbout to start one with Jake so he couldn't lose.
The Bushwhackers eating brunch look like characters from the Popeye movie
A rare Pedro Morales sighting
"These guys look like they're on the Joy Juice.....some kind of juice!"
Bushwhackers hit their finisher and the match continues. That's odd.
WOAHHHHHHH! YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
"Luke don't got no teeth" is a favorite quote of mine
There's actually more random matches (meaning matches without there already being a feud) here than there were at WM3.
Butch and Luke sexually harassing Sean Mooney
You would think after the 2nd person tripped on that step that they would've figured out a way to fix that.
Hennig/Blazer manage to get the crowd hot with a short amount of time
Jesse Ventura does his normal hello but adds "Jeremiah" to the list. Who is Jeremiah?
I wonder how far Upset City is from Suplex City
I feel like I just watched Jesse pose.
Fuji running the 5K in a tuxedo is still one of the best things ever
I used to always fast forward through Run-DMC when I watched this on VHS.
True story. My first house show was the first show at MSG following WM5 and Run-DMC made an appearance and were signing autographs in the arena during the show.
The first match of the night to get some backstory is the tag match. I never got to see Survivor Series 88 until I rented the Coliseum version nearly 10 years later.
The Conquistadors got screwed. Powers of Pain should have been counted out.
I liked Smash's makeup better when he didn't have yellow in it and I liked Ax with red and silver instead of black
Surprised Gene Simmons never sued The Warlord over his makeup
This match really drags though.
Macho Man screaming at literally no one and then assaults a cameraman
I just remembered being in kindergarten and thinking Frenchy Martin was a painter because of his hat
And now a random Superfly Jimmy Snuka for no reason. I remember being happy to see him as a kid but confused about why he was there. It was two months later that my cousin told me Snuka was wrestling on Saturday Night's Main Event. Also it sounds like he's entering to the Survivor Series theme.
Ronnie Garvin with a forward flip into a cradle. That's something different.
Garvin proceeds to kill Frenchy Martin. that's where Frightmare learned it from!
The Strike Force breakup really did come out of nowhere. At least I don't remember seeing any hints to it.
Martel's back looks HUGE here
Even Tully Blanchard is shocked that Martel walked out
I used to love this Piper's Pit as a kid. Now I see that it's way too long. They could have carved off about 5 minutes and gave Heenan and Rooster a bit more time.
Brother Love's Roddy Piper impression is pretty funny though
Because of this appearance I was convinced that the Morton Downey Jr. Show was something I should be watching at the age of 6 and a half. I only stayed up to watch it once and it definitely wasn't what I expected. All I remember is some fat African-American preacher type yapping for the whole time. Passed out about 5-10 minutes into it.
Piper with long hair was jarring for me at first but then when I saw him with short hair in 1994 it was weird looking again
I never noticed Downey taking his socks off and throwing them into the crowd til just now
Even though this is long I'm glad they re-inserted the part with Piper pulling Brother Love's skirt off. The version on his DVD is way too bizarre. All of a sudden he just vanishes.
"I didn't know your girlfriend was homeless!"
It's actually odd that they did the intermission portion of the show AFTER that long Piper's Pit segment. So much standing around.
You know, if you really think about it, the Hogan/Savage storyline started in 1985 when Savage debuted and immediately went after Hogan. And actually it can probably stem off of the Hogan/Andre angle that started a year earlier and weave back and forth.
After three hours we're finally back to some action.
Just noticed after all these years that Bobby Heenan was wearing a different outfit for the first half of the show. I guess he probably changed into his gear and just had that jacket and pants over it to save time later.
I still wish there was more explanation for the missing turnbuckle pad.
I just went back and totally saw Andre taking the pad off. Mystery solved after all these years.
"Ever heard the story of David and Goliath?" "Yeah, he used a foreign object too."
The only purpose of this match is to start two other feuds
"Jake's the best Jake's the best Jake's the best!"
Random interview with Sensational Sherri. Totally not foreshadowing ANYTHING at all.
I hate how this match is often listed as The Hart Foundation vs. Rhythm and Blues. That team didn't exist for almost a year. They're just two stablemates.
This show is actually a bigger chore to get through than WM4
Valentine breaks up the pin yet the referee counts 3 anyway. Alright.
Jesse always laughed when Rude called someone a "sweat hog"
I always liked Warrior's boots from this show for some reason
Joey Marella grabbing Rude's hand to stop him from poking the eyes. That's not your job, referee
Just realized that Rude wins the belt in April in New Jersey and loses it in August in New Jersey
Warrior reaches the ropes and Marella doesn't break the hold.
Does seem odd that Warrior wasn't strong enough to kick Bobby off of his leg
"GET OFF MY ASS!"
I actually was a Red Rooster mark when I was a kid. I have no idea why.
Macho looks weird in a different shade of orange trunks or is it pink?
With how intense Savage was earlier you'd think he would've jumped Hogan as he got in the ring
Also just noticed Savage was in white boots instead of his normal yellow
Monsoon casually claiming that Savage used to slap Elizabeth around in the dressing room. Yikes.
Hogan with raspberry jam all over his forehead, how embarrassing
Liz claims to stay neutral but keeps Hogan from ramming Savage into the post
What's amazing is Hogan was without the title for only about 14 months and it honestly feels like it was an eternity ago that he was champ
Me as a kid: Oh that's how they put the belt on? Backwards and then turn it around?
This show ran longer than Wrestlemania 4 with less matches.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 17, 2017 3:21:41 GMT -5
Buddy Rose had been in the company for several months at this point and losing regularly. I wonder why they decided to put him under a hood instead of just having him wrestle as himself. Hard to say, due to so much "he said/he said" on the subject. Rose's return to the company hadn't gone well, with him pissing off Bobby Heenan (his on-screen manager) almost immediately, having some sort of lockerroom altercation and getting caught freebasing crack. After that he was removed from the Heenan Family and mostly taken off TV and did house shows. George Scott, the booker at the time, thought that Rose still had a spot and supposedly hoped the time off TV would let everyone cool off while Rose repaired his rep and the damage he had done to it in such short time, hoping to bring him back into some sort of semi-prominent role. The mask was a compromise on several fronts of Scott wanting Rose on the card while no one else did. I think Rose realized Scott wasn't going to win the battle, and left the company soon after.
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Post by lildude8218 on Feb 18, 2017 0:07:01 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 6
Hey look, it's Sting and The Four Horsemen logos in the intro
Ventura looks weird without facial hair
Is this the very last time Jesse and Gorilla did commentary together?
Robert Goulet looks like a wax figure
As a kid I remember going "Wrestlemania 3 had those carts, Wrestlemania 6 had them too, so Wrestlemania 9 will have them too."
I also thought that there would be a battle royal every 2 Wrestlemanias but this proved me wrong
It's interesting how the company originally thought Martel needed a manager. Usually they do that with guys who can't talk that well. I never really read why they dropped the Martel/Slick tandem.
I'm still not sure why Koko wound up in the main event of Survivor Series 88.
I always liked Rick Martel's boot laces for some reason
Andre looks awful just standing for the interview
Did Andre even get to hold his own belt ever?
It's amazing how during this time that every arena had the exact same locker room....
Sean Mooney's puns are terrible. And this is coming from someone who loves puns.
I think it's obvious that the original plan was Demolition/Brain Busters here, otherwise why have Demolition even lose the belts to Andre/Haku in the first place?
In kayfabe, why would Heenan's game plan be to not have Andre in the match at all. Wouldn't he be a lot harder to beat than Haku?
Andre got to tie himself in the ropes one last time
I'm pretty sure this is beyond a five count, referee
"I'm the f***ing boss!"
Now I wonder how long Andre had been in that dark blue singlet
Pretty interesting segue from Andre to Earthquake
Earthquake was always doing the "pee pee dance"
Earthquake definitely needed designs on his singlet because the plain colors were not flattering. Especially with all those sweat stains.
Hercules probably would have been better off going for the full nelson
I had never heard of Rona Barrett before Wrestlemania 6 or since
She's totally hitting on Elizabeth!
Ugh, again with Sean Mooney's horrid delivery.
"What do you have of your own, Jess?" "..............and here comes Brutus!"
Something I never thought about now. This is Perfect's first televised loss (to the best of my knowledge) and then both men were in the Intercontinental Title tournament but didn't face each other. Perfect wins the title, Beefcake has a perfect claim as #1 contender since he had already beaten the champ.
Jesse drops "Jeremiah" from his shout out
Mary Tyler Moore popping for the Barber
Curt Hennig loved that slingshot into the turnbuckle post spot
I'm honestly surprised that Piper said ok to his program with Bad News Brown. Their feud ended here and Piper went back to commentary (with irregular wrestling) for nearly a year
Piper looks coked out of his gourd here
Mean Gene makes a pun and doesn't sound like an absolute douche
Ventura breaking kayfabe to mention his pilot with Piper
That damn Danny Davis separating Brown and Piper is annoying.
Bad News Brown has a lifetime 1-0-2 record at Wrestlemania
The jackass with the megaphone or whatever that is making noises should have been thrown out
Do the Right Thing: The Wrestling Match
I actually really like the Steve Allen/Bolsheviks segment.
I was always a big Nikolai fan and somehow didn't notice he wasn't in the company for almost a year even though I was constantly seeing Boris without him.
Kinda weird that Bad News got a jobber entrance but the Bolsheviks got their own entrance.
Where are the Bolsheviks hats? And Slick for that matter? He dropped them like a hot potato.
Bret: Hey, Anvil, remember what Dynamite did at the Wrestling Classic?
This is the first time next year's Wrestlemania was announced in advance
I liked the idea of Fuji selling The Powers of Pain's contracts off but I think there needed to be some sort of vignettes about this.
Tito Santana gets some promo time for some reason
Gorilla getting mad at Jesse for saying Tito's food would have caused a countout victory
Tito kills his own neck selling that clothesline
"There ain't no king and queen no more!" double negative!
Macho King still hadn't morphed into a cowboy yet.
Imagine if they had been assholes and made some jobbers carry the king and queen down that long ass aisle
A MERRY CUN DREAM
"You're telling me that Rhodes only weighs 200?"
I don't like Dusty's reverse colored shirt....or blouse or whatever
Elizabeth needed her own music
It's amazing how an over the hill Dusty Rhodes was legitimately one of the top babyfaces in the WWF in 1989-1990
Dusty totally copped a feel when he kicked out of Sherri's splash
Wow, I just realized that everyone besides the referee is dead
Elizabeth is a cheating cheater that cheats!
Meltzer said there was talk of doing six-person tag matches around the loop with Rhodes, Sapphire and Elizabeth against Savage, Sherri, and Brother Love....
"Family members falling like the Berlin Wall." Andre left....no one else did. In fact Heenan had just added Barbarian to his family.
Rona Barrett claims she found a porno with Jesse Ventura in it....k....
Gorilla really excited to see this porno
I feel like this mid-show parade of promos is definitely needed these days. Not only do you get a cool-down but you have a chance for guys to get their heat back if they lost or start some new angle.
Fuji: Oh, none of my guys wear paint now so I guess I don't anymore either
"Hey, don't say that about Freddie!"
"We've still got a long way to go!" don't remind me, Gorilla.
Imagine if the Orient Express had constant rotating members. The idea being that they were being shipped over via the Orient Express. get it? no? ok
Jannetty threatening to beat an old man with a cane. Classy!
Steve Allen with Rhythm & Blues isn't as good as the Bolsheviks skit but it's not bad either
It's funny how Duggan and Bravo had a brief feud in late-88 and they wind up paired together here a year and a half later in a throwaway match only designed to get Earthquake over.
You can't hold both a manager's and wrestling license? What about Johnny Valiant? Or all the times Bobby Heenan wrestled?
Gorilla thinks what's happening live is a replay. That was funny.
Very rare at this point for a feud to last one full year, then again, Jake's hiatus didn't give them a quicker time to end it
Was the Wave due to boredom? I'm kinda bored of this match myself.
Virgil definitely earned his money here
There's a weird echo during DiBiase's music that I never noticed before
I just realized the irony of Jake giving a bunch of Canadians American money
DiBiase does a great job of hiding. I wonder how many people realized he went under the ring
"You just coined a phrase!" makes Slick sound like a stoner
Bossman looks like a different person one year and several pounds later.
Also I'm not sure but there had to be some instance of DiBiase paying Slick for Bossman to do something in the past.
Compared to the last match, the Twin Towers exploding.....yeah, I totally realized how bad that sounded....anyway....this match feels like a blink and you miss it. Probably why they did it again on the next Saturday Night's Main Event
Two years in a row where DiBiase attacks someone in another match to start a feud with them. The DiBiase/Bossman feud never really got off the ground though. By Summerslam, Bossman was special referee for Jake/Bad News and in Hogan's corner and DiBiase wasn't even booked on the show except for the stuff with Sapphire.
This segment with Sean Mooney interviewing kids is why this should never happen.
Mary Tyler Moore seems to not know a thing about what Sean is even talking about. Was she actually a fan or dragged there?
True story, my 2nd house show was in October of 1990. It was a B-show (didn't know that back then) featuring the tag champions and the IC champion. The Hart Foundation fought Rhythm & Blues in the main event but during the intermission we got a live performance of "Hunka Hunka Hunka Honky Love"
WHAT GOLD ALBUM?!?!? A gold album of Honky Honky Honky Hunka Love?!?"
I think Jimmy Hart's microphone is off
They couldn't even get poor Greg a guitar strap
The sad thing is the Bushwhackers probably were selling merchandise since they had nothing else to do
"They're whackin and they're bushin" Eh?
One of the last times we see Rick Rude with long hair
Rick Rude vs. Jimmy Snuka could be a main event anywhere in the world
Steve Allen doing schtick. Not as natural as Uecker.
Was there a brief period where Snuka used the diving headbutt as a finisher or was it always just another move in his arsenal?
Just realized that this was one of only a few times where Rude wasn't currently in a feud.
I'm really glad that Earthquake never wore brown again. Not a good look.
I kinda wish Hogan had worn Warrior's makeup for this match since Warrior had Hogan's colors on his chest.
Would have been funny if both men tried to wrestle with their titles on
Warrior needs a rest hold to start the damn match
Not for nothin but maybe they shouldn't have done a test of strength spot when Hercules and Earthquake just did one 9 hours earlier......long show
I still don't understand the "criss-cross followed by the drop down" wrestling spot. Glad that it seems to have gone away
"Hogan telling the referee to get out of the way and let us get it on here." Hot....maybe?
Meltzer talked about this match a few times in the build up to Mania. He assumed that Warrior would turn heel and lose or that Warrior would turn heel, cause Hogan to lose to Savage at the Main Event and then Hogan would beat Warrior for the IC title, or that the match would end in either a double DQ/countout or time limit draw and both men would keep their titles. Yes, literally every option except what happened.
The storytelling is good because it makes both men look good. Each had the other beaten but the ref was down.
I wonder how many assumed a double countout was coming when they both went to the floor late in the match
Hogan misses for the first time and Warrior wins by half a second. Hogan had to kick out at 3 there to show how close it really was.
Ventura puts over Hogan for the first and last time
Pyro and ballyhoo to end the show!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 7:13:32 GMT -5
Snuka's diving headbutt was part of his moveset. By this point in his career, that was pretty much the most devastating part of his arsenal. Probably because the Superfly wasn't winning matches anymore, and with his knees shot to hell by this point, why even do the splash?
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Post by Mid-Carder on Feb 18, 2017 16:55:50 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of the event as a whole but Mania 6's main event is wrestling perfection. They've never been able to replicate that face v face atmosphere to that extent. The fans genuinely loved both guys.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Feb 18, 2017 17:49:21 GMT -5
The cartoon characters of the time period certainly help it, but I find WrestleMania 6 to be an aesthetically pleasing show. Something about the neon color palette of the product contrasted with the vast, almost galactic aura of SkyDome makes for a striking image.
I still refuse to call it the Rogers Centre, by the way.
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Post by progwd on Feb 18, 2017 19:17:35 GMT -5
The cartoon characters of the time period certainly help it, but I find WrestleMania 6 to be an aesthetically pleasing show. Something about the neon color palette of the product contrasted with the vast, almost galactic aura of SkyDome makes for a striking image. I still refuse to call it the Rogers Centre, by the way. I go there every year for the Blue Jays Canada Day game. It'll always be the SkyDome to me.
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Post by lildude8218 on Feb 18, 2017 20:06:16 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 7
I had a copy of this show right after it came out and watched it a few times. I gave the copy to my cousin so he could tape the 1991 Survivor Series showdown for me (we didn't have cable, he did.) Not only did he not tape it for me but I never got the tape back either. He said he thought his dad taped over it.
Because of that for some reason I remembered Jesse Ventura doing commentary on this show. I guess it was just ingrained in my brain that Gorilla/Jesse = Wrestlemania. Then again it always took me a super long time to realize guys were gone back then.
Hacksaw couldn't even get a popcorn match on this show.
Heenan's last Wrestlemania as a manager
Haku looks like he lost his luggage with those plain black tights
Regis sounds like a goof making shit up but he is a big fan
It's amazing how much Kerry Von Erich's stock fell in less than a year
Not sure how much longer Dino hung around after this show.
It's actually interesting that Monsoon and Heenan were the commentary team for this show. They worked Wrestling Challenge together every week, Vince typically had a "special" lineup for PPVs. Then again I guess he was too busy to do play by play for a show like this.
Slick's days were numbered too.
I was a huge Winston mark as a kid
For two big guys this is a pretty good match
Warlord looks like a walrus
Hey, the LA Sports Arena has the same locker room as the Skydome....
How gross, the Nasty Boys used Mean Gene's handkerchief for exactly what it's supposed to be used for
Looks like the Anvil forgot his shower cap at home
Nevermind, he has it when they come out, and also their stupid jackets
That woman is wearing saucers as earrings
The eyes on the back of Jimmy's helmet are distracting
The Nasty Boys missing with the microphone is a good misdirection because you forget about the helmet.
Oops it winds up in the crowd
Neidhart has to take the fall since Bret was going to get pushed to the moon after this
With this Jimmy Hart gets tied up with the tag titles for the next 2 years
A blind Jake beating up Tito thinking it was Martel is really funny to me
It takes 3 seconds for Jake to show the world that he can actually see through the blindfold
I actually really enjoyed this match as a kid. It really is all psychology
Danny Davis should have stayed out of the way, it's his own fault for getting grabbed
The "It's so loud in here I'm going to say what you just said because I can't hear you" thing wasn't one of Bobby's best bits
A Boston Crab is probably one of the smartest moves to use in this type of match
This should have been the complete end of the Arrogance gimmick but I think Martel kept using it as a prop
Taker was already getting face pops here
This was that period when Snuka switched to boots and had facial hair. It's such a jarring change.
"What a package!" Stop saying things like that!
Heenan was always obsessed with Taker's gloves
Wow, Snuka with a springboard. I don't remember seeing that in the WWF around this time
Footage of Savage beating Warrior with a cheap knockoff version of his scepter.
Sherri looking like she's about to give Warrior a beej
Elizabeth looks like she's wearing something a grandmother would have
The birth of the Warrior's jacket
People need to have more gear made for special occasions. It puts the match over as important before the bell even rings.
I feel like this is the first time someone other than Hulk Hogan kicked out of a finisher
I also think that's the first and last time the Warrior used a small package
Sherri interferes and it ultimately has no bearing on the finish
It has to be exhausting doing 5 flying elbows in a row
Warrior somehow gets strength from the ropes. Sounds fishy to me
"The Warlord looking up to the heavens!"
Imagine an alternate universe where this match ends with Warrior actually walking out
Savage with the callback to the Steamboat injury but the commentary team can't mention it specifically so it loses some of the impact
I'm not a huge fan of Warrior putting his foot on Savage for the win
Not for nothin but Elizabeth probably should have been tackled by security and thrown out. You're a fan!
Ugly crying all around
Macho had a match against Rick Martel that was on the World Tour 91 tape. The commentary team stated that the match was signed before Wrestlemania and Savage had to fulfill his contractual obligations. Me as a kid said "Why would Macho King, a bad guy, sign for a match against Rick Martel who is also a bad guy?"
Taker measuring Regis for his coffin is a bit goofy for the early Undertaker to be doing
Fuji got Demolition back but was like "the f*** out of here with that facepaint nonsense"
Kitao looks like a meathead
Andre showing up is such a great surprise. There were actually some Perfect/Andre matches penciled in for house shows but they never came to be.
I think I'm one of the few people out there who doesn't think Bossman needed to win the title here. His feud was with Heenan, not with Perfect. Just making a fool of him and having his man lose on a big stage was enough for him to win the feud.
"He carries a fish stick, a ball and chain too."
Donald Trump, Chuck Norris, Lou Ferrigno, and Henry Winkler....the nWo could have formed this day.
Earthquake could have beaten Valentine in 45 seconds and I don't think anyone would have been upset
LOD vs. Power and Glory was such a heatless feud. Other than them screwing LOD out of the battle royal there was nothing.
I kinda wish Virgil had come out dressed like Piper in the kilt and everything
Was Piper's motorcycle accident legit or kayfabe? I know the program was supposed to shift to Piper/DiBiase but I don't think that ever got off the ground
Sherri's appearance was definitely out of left field but was probably needed. DiBiase needed something to "even the odds." I know that was supposed to lead to another program against Savage but Savage vetoed the idea.
I seriously blanked for a minute and the Mountie match was already over
Just think, we could have had Sheik Tugboat instead
I wonder why Slaughter stopped wearing the boots with the curled toe
There's really not anything memorable about this main event other than Hogan winning his 3rd title. It just kinda happens
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 18, 2017 21:30:40 GMT -5
Great observations. Brings back memories of growing up and watching these shows. I always thought the blue lockers from 1990-1991 were at Titan Tower or somewhere and all the interviews were pre-taped but I guess they just moved the lockers from PPV to PPV site.
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Post by edgestar on Feb 18, 2017 22:27:38 GMT -5
"We're down to 4" when 6 people are in the ring. At one point Bad News hits JYD and it sounds like JYD says "oh, Ron Bass!" Gene says "look at this package" while staring at Beefcake's crotch Frenchy Martin looks like an actual frog Billy Graham was only 44 years old but looks at least 70. Jake steals Hulk Hogan's workout montage music. The title belt sitting on a pillow so it can take a nap "What a threesome, Jess." Gross. I laughed out loud, at these
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Post by lildude8218 on Feb 19, 2017 16:25:46 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 8
This intro seems like the beginning of a Saturday Night's Main Event, not a Wrestlemania
Heenan mentioning the centerfolds of Elizabeth
Tito's sister does an okay job, better than Jake's sister
I think I just saw Linda Hogan in the crowd
One year ago Sherri joins up with DiBiase and now she's with Shawn. How times change.
This referee looks like a bratty child on some sitcom
"YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVE, SHAWN!!!!! GO HOME, SHAWN!!!!!!!"
Funny how Tito went from winning the opening match on Wrestlemania to losing it in 7 years
Gorilla refusing to let the replay be shown. Abuse of power!
LOD make their big return after a very brief hiatus with Paul Ellering. Heenan is the only one really putting it over. I remember the original card had LOD/Natural Disasters in some sort of Street Fight and Money Inc/Slaughter and Duggan.
This interview goes on way too long
Jake Roberts with some R-rated tights for his last appearance
More like Undertakalongtimetogettothering amirite?
Kind of a shame that Jake didn't get that backstage job he was promised. Would've been interesting 20+ years later to see what stuff he had come up with
Heenan mentions The Munsters and then calls Taker "Lurch." Swing and a miss.
RIP DDT. This may not be the exact moment the DDT lost its shine but a correlation can be argued.
I feel like the Tombstone on the floor wasn't needed. Why they protected Jake when he was on his way out and held them up for money is strange.
I was just going to ask if this was the first face vs face match at Wrestlemania and remembered Hogan/Warrior. Duh!
Piper with his hand down the back of the belt always looks weird as hell
"I woulda had ya!" such an old school mentality there
Bobby doesn't have gold in his teeth because he's not half-Japanese. K....
HE'S GOLDBRICKIN!
Bratty referee complaining about the open hand slap from Piper but there's nothing illegal about it.
Piper probably could have used one more heel run
Bret blades as clear as day yet got away without getting fined like Flair did
Bret now in "Moves of Doom" mode
Maybe if they switched to just using the sound of a bell this wouldn't keep happening?
Piper gets pinned for the very first time in 15 years. Except for all the other times he was pinned.
Lex Luger looks so unwrestlerlike here
Luger offering to take his shirt off for everyone. Thanks, Lex.
Imagine if this 8 man tag was a Survivor Series match? Oof.
With that face shield we can call him Handsome Virgil
Ray Combs pissing the heels off is the only good thing about this match
Shawn Michaels has left the building
One too many Hooo's for Hacksaw....
Ric Flair was the first heel that I cheered for. I wanted him to get DQ'd to keep the title.
Savage wearing something an old lady at a casino would wear
Surprised the centerfold really didn't come into play. Even an obvious fake one would have been better than nothing at all.
It's a shame that Heenan retired from managing before this. It really needed him at ringside instead of Perfect.
Flair bleeding just because
This match really should have been stopped for a DQ already
Elizabeth looks a million times better here than last year
Shane McMahon can't control this woman!
The end of this match is kind of a fiasco. Savage does have to cheat to beat Flair, which seems odd.
I wonder if Savage was legit hot over Flair kissing Elizabeth
Savage just surrendered the belt to Elizabeth.
I still think Sid had no reason to think he'd be #1 contender.
Martel and Tatanka face each other before their feud begins. Then it just vanished until Survivor Series.
Those Lumpy Indians were something else
Listening to Heenan talk makes me think about how I fantasy booked The Heenan Family post-1991. He would've had Flair, probably Michaels, and The Beverly Brothers. Then eventually Razor Ramon.
Not a fan of Martel in pink. He should have tried a lavender or maybe a pastel green.
I remember hearing somewhere that as they were walking out they told the tag team champs that their match was cut to to like 2 minutes or something. Guess they ignored it.
The first half of this show blew by and now it's dragging
Skinner spitting the tobacco in Owen's face had to be a rib
Owen kicked out of Skinner's finisher!
Hogan's interview with Vince is so strange since it's his normal speaking voice. You rarely heard that back then.
That's DOCTOR Harvey Wippleman
I didn't want Hogan to leave as a kid. I was disappointed because there wasn't a definitive answer at the end of this show and then he was just gone
What the hell was Papa Shango doing that he missed his cue anyway? As soon as the power bomb happened he should have started making his way down there.
Warrior's return definitely came out of nowhere.
Looking back I'm not sure why I thought it was a different guy, other than the haircut, he looks exactly the same.
To me this is the official end of the Hogan era even though he came back the following year. That was more like an epilogue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 20:36:42 GMT -5
I know I can't be the only one who spent the Flair-Savage match looking at the hanging screens wondering when they'd reveal the centerfold.
(Dammit, Bobby!)
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Post by cjh on Feb 19, 2017 21:04:54 GMT -5
I believe Jake demanded his release, not more money. According to his 2005 WWE DVD, Kip Frey offered him a great contract, but Jake's early release from WWE prevented him from signing with WCW before July. Bill Watts replaced Frey in June, so Jake had to settle for a much smaller deal.
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Post by AJ Smudgico on Feb 20, 2017 14:39:30 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 7 Nevermind, he has it when they come out, and also their stupid jackets With this Jimmy Hart gets tied up with the tag titles for the next 2 years Firstly, I love your reviews, I really do, but..... I'm sorry, I loved the jackets!! Also, my interpretation was, this match not only signaled the end of The Hart Foundation, but also the Foundation/Jimmy Hart feud where Jimmy had been chasing them for off/on three years. He STILL went after Bret with The Mountie, a short time later.
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Post by lildude8218 on Feb 20, 2017 17:48:05 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 9
Me as a kid: Holy crap, Jim Ross. I know him!
This intro feels like it takes 100 years
Jim Ross sounding like he's breaking kayfabe by saying there were 7 Cleopatras
"Ladies and Gentlemen, Macho Man Randy Savage" and out comes a llama
Randy Savage coming out with virgins...........
"Bobby the Brain Heenan!" and out comes an ostrich
"You stink! You smell like camel!"
When Luna walked out with Shawn Michaels I assumed she was part of the circus and that every wrestler was going to get some sort of Caesar's Palace accompaniment
Tatanka enters the ring with a weapon!
Tatanka probably should have won here but they were transitioning to HBK/Perfect and that feud wouldn't have had much without the title
I didn't remember this match being this long
Just realized this is the first 3-man team for Mania that didn't include a celebrity
Macho sounds like he's doing fraction homework
This is like some random amalgamated era where WWF and WCW had a draft or something. Steiners, Gonzalez, Luger, Jim Ross all look weird here.
Back before Scott Steiner was batshit insane
This match is way longer than I remembered too. Then again this Wrestlemania is also much shorter than previous years.
Savage should have played Dr. Teeth in a movie
Just realized Bill Alfonso was the referee
Rick almost botched that belly to belly off of Fatu's shoulders
We're almost an hour into this show and we've only had 2 matches
JR called the Frankensteiner the Steiner Line
It looked like Doink had sprayed a whipped cream beard on the statue
Even as a kid I knew something was up when suddenly Doink had no chest hair showing
This is an illusion!
Double Doink sounds like a kids board game
Hey, it's that Asian kid from Revenge of the Nerds taking pictures
"YOKOZUNA NUMBA ONE!"
Bob "Mike Bennett" Backlund is here!
Razor getting a ton of cheers and chants here
mentions of the Hitman/Luger program that never got off the ground
Backlund/Razor is awkward because they're obviously pushing Razor but you have a former World champion here so you have to give him respect and not just completely job him out. Scott Hall said he liked working with Backlund in his shoot.
I absolutely HATED Jimmy Hart's face turn. Hogan didn't need a manager. Especially a skinny geek like Hart.
"Red and yellow smoke" Or just red....
Mega Maniacs was a stupid name too
So did Macho actually give Hogan that black eye or is that just an urban legend?
Beefcake's mask was pretty cool actually
I really figured it was a lock that Hogan and Beefcake would win the belts here.
Also it was really nice of the Nasty Boys to give their title shot to the Mega Maniacs. Maybe that's why Hogan deals with Knobbs to this day?
Sounds like "the Roman Coliseum doesn't have raptors"
This ending with Jimmy Hart and the reversible jacket is f***ing ridiculous
Kinda funny how they made such a huge deal about Beefcake's comeback and then he never had another match on TV or a PPV
The post-match losing celebration lasts decades
Todd goes into radio DJ mode when ending his chat with Natalie Cole
Mr. Perfect with a rare botch on his promo
These girls with Lex are really trashy looking
Jim Ross is impressed by a couple of sparklers
Don't compare The Narcissist to Muhammad Ali
Perfect hits a very awkward looking top rope dropkick
I'm not sure if Perfect's feet were supposed to be on the rope or it just turned out that way.
Notice that Heenan never said that Shawn Michaels had left the building
This is why I thought Michaels would wind up in Heenan's faux stable
Imagine if Gonzalez had been brought into WCW originally as a heel. I think he would have been better off
Undertaker with his own hostage taking bird
Gonzalez: Hey Taker, does this rag smell like chloroform?
In an alternate dimension, Fonzie was Gonzalez's manager
Tons of Hogan chants after the match and people say Hogan wasn't over at the time
I'm challenging either you or the Jap!
The two idiots in the togas have to be actors, right?
Savage actually knows how to spell "respect"
It's funny how often commentators wondered if Bret would be able to put the sharpshooter on a guy with big/long legs
Fuji with the salt in the eyes but the referee somehow doesn't see white shit all over Bret's face
"Hogan you big man! My Yokozuma!"
Bret could be blinded for life but he's still telling Hogan to go for the title
How much cocaine did Fuji throw in Yoko's face?
The pop when Hogan becomes champion is HUGE and I think this is one of the first real shocks for a Wrestlemania.
JR: THIS IS AMAZING! AND WE HAVE BAM BAM BIGELOW VS KAMALA STILL TO COME!
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