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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 30, 2017 19:32:54 GMT -5
I found this pretty obnoxious all the way around. There was no one to root for, cuz kayfabe they were all awful
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Post by StuntGranny® on Apr 30, 2017 19:44:24 GMT -5
Judging from her book, she obviously didn't write the promo herself. If she did, it would've went something like, "And you, Nikki! You remind me of (video game reference)! Why, it's almost as if (pop culture reference)! And Natalya, only whores take selfies!"
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Post by mizerable on Apr 30, 2017 20:01:26 GMT -5
Which makes it worse because she was accusing The Bellas got where they are because of there boyfriends and copying there mannerisms while she does the exact same thing. And it is funny for her to claim as much anyways since it was her kayfabe boyfriend who was the cause of her big climb to the top since Vince was trying to transfer Bryan's heat to her and just about everyone else not named Bryan. Had she never been a part of that, who knows if she would've ever been "the face" of the divas division for that short time.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 30, 2017 20:14:53 GMT -5
From a kayfabe standpoint, it seems disingenuous for AJ to mock the other women for sucking their way to the top after AJ herself had already dated half the male roster. And from a non-kayfabe standpoint, yeah, this is shitting on the entire division for no real reason. Well, I'm pretty sure she was a heel at the time, so she can be a hypocrite here. The problem is that the fans completely agreed with the sentiment behind the promo, so it just got AJ over as being in the right, which heel promos really aren't supposed to do.
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Post by kevin on Apr 30, 2017 20:31:30 GMT -5
This helped the Division recover form Beth's Hunter were girls line.
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Post by Abdullah on Apr 30, 2017 20:45:13 GMT -5
I don't know how bad we should feel for Nikki and the gang considering...
- Both Punk and AJ have said that the fallout from the promo was meant to be much bigger but 'someone' got offended and reduced the storyline to a series of matches with no words.
- Nikki herself has admitted or at least alluded to the fact that she was pissed at AJ for a long time over this kayfabe promo. AJ would not get a live mic again until Paige's debut. She was speaking regularly before then.
AJ Lee was the heel. AJ Lee was in wrong. Rather then let that play out on-screen, Nikki used the clout she swears she doesn't have to alter the whole thing. It's a shame too because when they finally appeared to put their beef aside in 2015, their interactions were pretty fun. Maybe Nikki knew AJ was on her way out and let herself relax a bit.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Apr 30, 2017 21:08:55 GMT -5
She slut-shamed the Bella's when like a couple years before, her gimmick was being Raw's resident bicycle. Wack
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 30, 2017 21:12:26 GMT -5
She slut-shamed the Bella's when like a couple years before, her gimmick was being Rae's resident bicycle. Wack Who knew AJ was into that Summer lovin'?
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 30, 2017 21:22:45 GMT -5
Not sure how much it helped but it was memorable. The problem is any heel promo AJ would cut in that scenario will have fans chanting her over the other girls so it was a no win situation.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Apr 30, 2017 21:32:32 GMT -5
It was pretty bad. AJ is a first ballot hall of fame entry for bad acting, but this came off so overly-rehearsed and just a bizarre argument when her character was essentially someone who tried to get romantically involved with a new person each month.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Apr 30, 2017 23:11:39 GMT -5
It was just really lame. I dunno who came up with it but it literally sounded like 'my husband did this promo, I'll do it too but with none of the charisma!', it was just shit. I like AJ but Christ it was bad, she sounded like a fan copying her favourite wrestler.
Also : "SAY IT TO OUR FACE!!!!"
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 30, 2017 23:13:10 GMT -5
"I didn't get here because I was cute."
Bullshit.
I mean, that's the not the only reason; but c'mon.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 30, 2017 23:13:52 GMT -5
From a kayfabe standpoint, it seems disingenuous for AJ to mock the other women for sucking their way to the top after AJ herself had already dated half the male roster. And from a non-kayfabe standpoint, yeah, this is shitting on the entire division for no real reason. Well, I'm pretty sure she was a heel at the time, so she can be a hypocrite here. The problem is that the fans completely agreed with the sentiment behind the promo, so it just got AJ over as being in the right, which heel promos really aren't supposed to do. Never underestimate the amount of goodwill you can get by knocking down what people hate. See also: NXT season 3.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 23:15:43 GMT -5
Well, I'm pretty sure she was a heel at the time, so she can be a hypocrite here. The problem is that the fans completely agreed with the sentiment behind the promo, so it just got AJ over as being in the right, which heel promos really aren't supposed to do. Never underestimate the amount of goodwill you can get by knocking down what people hate. See also: NXT season 3. I'm pretty sure suggesting someone check out NXT season 3 is considered torture and therefore you should be stripped of your mod title immediately. Not cool!
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 30, 2017 23:17:28 GMT -5
Never underestimate the amount of goodwill you can get by knocking down what people hate. See also: NXT season 3. I'm pretty sure suggesting someone check out NXT season 3 is considered torture and therefore you should be stripped of your mod title immediately. Not cool! Preaching to the choir. I've always been a critic of that season. It was basically just tearing these women down for being women essentially.
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Post by Peeetah on Apr 30, 2017 23:28:54 GMT -5
She was average in the ring and she relied on sex appeal just as much as either Bella so not really.
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Post by corndog on Apr 30, 2017 23:44:13 GMT -5
It was a terrible rehash of something her husband did better. Nothing more. Much like how this thread is going to be a terrible rehash of the "AJ Wars" from the same time period.
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Post by Peeetah on Apr 30, 2017 23:53:09 GMT -5
It was a terrible rehash of something her husband did better. Nothing more. Much like how this thread is going to be a terrible rehash of the "AJ Wars" from the same time period. Just like the Mickie James war that came before it and the Alexa Bliss war that is sure to follow it.
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Post by corndog on May 1, 2017 0:20:57 GMT -5
Much like how this thread is going to be a terrible rehash of the "AJ Wars" from the same time period. Just like the Mickie James war that came before it and the Alexa Bliss war that is sure to follow it. We should never forget the Mickie James war that was fought for reasons I just can't remember. Judging from a thread started tonight, it seems the Alexa Bliss war has already begun. So it seems fitting that this thread would be created to remind us what is to follow.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 1, 2017 0:21:49 GMT -5
Maybe we should just have... no wars about women. Let's try that.
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