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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 28, 2017 1:14:40 GMT -5
But did you see the interview Nordholm gave to the Fight Network? Did he seem like an insecure guy? He talked about the story from their point of view. Sometime you have to respond. He didn't go nuts and pointing fingers. He even said his talks he's had with the Hardys were cordials and he didn't mind in the future giving them the gimmicks back. After the interview, people didn't believe in what he said so he published the e-mails to prove that. Where the WWE clearly said they were not interested.
I'm predicting things will calm down on that front in the near future. I'm gonna stop you right there. If honestly, WWE wasn't interested in the BROKEN gimmick, there's no way in hell that Vince would even allow Matt Hardy to make the subtle references to the gimmick on live TV every week. You should've said: "WWE isn't interested in paying what Anthem is asking to sell them the gimmick." I'm 100% convinced that the reason why the Hardys re-signed with WWE is because Vince wants to do something with the BROKEN gimmick. Therefore, the assumption that Vince isn't interested in the gimmick is absolutely laughable and preposterous. The WWE have made CONSTANT references to the broken universe on TV, and the website. as stated the first thing stated when they showed up was Cole "THINGS ARE ABOUT TO GET BROKEN"
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2017 2:53:59 GMT -5
Yea this is one of those things where you have to use common sense. They are telling these people they have no interest in the broken gimmick because they aren't going to give them a dime when they don't have to for something that hasn't been determined they owned yet and they are allowing Matt to take care of everything that needs to be taken care of with that.
If they really didn't want the gimmick they would of told Matt from jump you can't do broken mannerisms on TV at all much less make broken references themselves.
In regards to Reby Sky no one is patting her on the back for putting up the "good fight". More so for speaking out against the lunacy that is spewing from the mouths of the higher ups in Impact. Matt has a filter but she gives no f***s. If impact can't take one person giving them shit on social media than they have a problem.
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Post by Welfare Willis on May 28, 2017 5:48:26 GMT -5
So on Eric Bischoff's podcast to paraphrase his opinion, "It's just a whole new level of smallball". He basically theorizes that Ed is doing this to try and keep the small base of hardcore fans that also watch Impact and might get turned off by the fight between Impact and Hardy. He also thinks some of the decisions Impact wrestling has made recently have taken things from bad to worse. link
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Post by Gecko on May 28, 2017 7:00:35 GMT -5
Say Anthem do win and get the full rights to the Broken gimmick. Then what? What good is supposed to come from this? My own opinion? And this has likely already been said here by others, but I don't think they really *want* the Broken gimmick as such. They're wanting a nice payday from somebody - the Hardys, WWE, whoever - to hand it over. They know it's worth money to others and are desperately attempting to hold it hostage. They're learning (or not) very quickly that the other players aren't going to play that game though. It's like everybody else is playing chess and they're playing Hungry Hungry Hippos.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 28, 2017 11:59:32 GMT -5
Not to excuse all of Reby's behavior, but I at least understand some of her reaction as far as the fact that TNA f***ed them over in contract negotiations, spitefully tried to threaten their livelihood outside of TNA, tried to rope her father into this despite him never actually being on contract and doing all that shit for free, and in general just gave them the finger after their own out-of-pocket investment into making the most successful thing TNA aired last year for them. Yes, she does also have a history of being a bit of a loose cannon and going off on big twitter rants and yes she went too far in some places, but you can at least see where the overreaction came from and why she would be that upset.
On the other hand, Nordholm's pay is not in jeopardy and the worst going for him right now is "this person who used to work here is saying mean things about us on twitter". But unlike Reby, he has years of executive business experience and should know better than to do literally any of this. Leaking communications with WWE and contract snippets is not the well reasoned approach of a sensible company, it's the grown-ass adult version of a teenager trying to prove someone making fun of them wrong by oversharing some more embarrassing detail to prove they're making something up. It's f***ing insane, and a new level of stupid that Dixie era TNA never reached. They should have just left this be and kept on with things how they were, because right now public opinion isn't going to be good for them either way, but at least if they kept their mouths shut it wouldn't have been getting worse; they've handled this in the worst possible way.
And before anyone brings up how businesses have to defend themselves, let me point you to WWE this past year. Alberto's million rants have gone completely unanswered, as have all of Paige's allegations that she failed her second wellness test because of prescription medication for her injured neck that WWE wasn't letting her get any care for, which ended up being posted by her relatives onto social media and whipping up a storm. WWE has let almost every word they have said sail completely by them. The only time they stepped in was on painkillers accusation, where WWE released a straightforward statement saying that it was not for prescription medication. That's it. The one thing they knew they could make a clear, concise remark on to counter the public accusations and be in the right on it, while letting every other insult, substantiated or not, sail by them. Do people in the company talk about Alberto and what he's saying? Sure? Does it upset some higher-ups? Almost definitely. But they don't let that show in public, and that is how you do business halfway sensibly.
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Post by eJm on May 28, 2017 12:26:54 GMT -5
And just to add what Stone Cold said, WWE in the last few years has put out a statement for two things that was discussed by people;
The Charlotte situation and the Titus O'Neil situation.
And those were only because A LOT of people brought it up especially on social media.
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Post by Dub H on May 28, 2017 16:31:21 GMT -5
And just to add what Stone Cold said, WWE in the last few years has put out a statement for two things that was discussed by people; The Charlotte situation and the Titus O'Neil situation. And those were only because A LOT of people brought it up especially on social media. what is the charlotte situation? the paige feud one?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2017 16:42:18 GMT -5
And just to add what Stone Cold said, WWE in the last few years has put out a statement for two things that was discussed by people; The Charlotte situation and the Titus O'Neil situation. And those were only because A LOT of people brought it up especially on social media. what is the charlotte situation? the paige feud one? Either that or the hack situation
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Post by eJm on May 28, 2017 18:32:46 GMT -5
what is the charlotte situation? the paige feud one? Either that or the hack situation Forgot about the hack one but I did mean the Paige feud.
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Post by r. on May 30, 2017 21:42:52 GMT -5
I'm gonna stop you right there. If honestly, WWE wasn't interested in the BROKEN gimmick, there's no way in hell that Vince would even allow Matt Hardy to make the subtle references to the gimmick on live TV every week. You should've said: "WWE isn't interested in paying what Anthem is asking to sell them the gimmick." I'm 100% convinced that the reason why the Hardys re-signed with WWE is because Vince wants to do something with the BROKEN gimmick. Therefore, the assumption that Vince isn't interested in the gimmick is absolutely laughable and preposterous. The WWE have made CONSTANT references to the broken universe on TV, and the website. as stated the first thing stated when they showed up was Cole "THINGS ARE ABOUT TO GET BROKEN" That is exactly what WWE wants you to think, They double secretly don't not want the Broken gimmick.
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Post by mikezanetti on Jun 5, 2017 9:16:27 GMT -5
Say Anthem do win and get the full rights to the Broken gimmick. Then what? What good is supposed to come from this? "What's Busted Mack Hartly doing in the RAW Zone?"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 19:30:55 GMT -5
Why? If Vince owned it, would he do the same thing?
Even if he does bring it to WWE, do you honestly think Mr. McMahon would push something that WASN'T his creation? If you do, then you haven't been watching long.
Samoa Joe says hi! And CM Punk And AJ Styles And Gallows and Anderson And Ric Flair And Jerry Lawler And Booker T And ECW and all their wrestlers But yeah, other than those examples and many others I probably forgot, Vince would clearly never do such a thing.
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Post by eJm on Jul 1, 2017 3:47:55 GMT -5
And CM Punk And AJ Styles And Gallows and Anderson And Ric Flair And Jerry Lawler And Booker T And ECW and all their wrestlers But yeah, other than those examples and many others I probably forgot, Vince would clearly never do such a thing. Also 75% of the Rock N' Wrestling era. Even that Hulk Hogan chap.
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