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Post by bearned on May 24, 2017 19:08:10 GMT -5
This is all so petty and dumb - nobody cares that much about TNA that they are going to get some groundswell of wrestling community support over this and trying to stick it to the WWE. They just come across as total bush league level operators who are desperate to make money.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 24, 2017 19:08:34 GMT -5
I haven't seen anything that suggests a smoking gun or gotcha! moment. Really all the phone logs do is show that they were talking. As for WWE not wanting the Broken gimmick, that's just ridiculous. I believe Meltzer said today that if that was true, WWE would have had Matt stop doing the Broken mannerisms by now. WWE wants it, just not on Impact's terms. They also wouldn't CONSTANTLY reference in subtle ways.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on May 24, 2017 19:35:50 GMT -5
From an interview I heard a bit of today, a William Corgan of the NWA was working as an intermediary between them, and thought they had made some great progress, then Nordholm made his statement.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 24, 2017 19:54:20 GMT -5
From an interview I heard a bit of today, a William Corgan of the NWA was working as an intermediary between them, and thought they had made some great progress, then Nordholm made his statement. Okay well if Billy thought "I'll get back in bed with the people that just f***ed me eight ways from Saturday" he's a bloody moron too.
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Post by grunt on May 24, 2017 19:57:29 GMT -5
]I don't have Elite so I can't see the leaked contract, but I imagine that's the idea, isn't it? Knowing Johnson would put the contract behind a paywall and then expecting everybody who didn't read it to assume his words were true and stan for the company on the assumption he couldn't be lying. If there's a lot of words and nothing that ties into his claim definitively, all he has to do is depend on people to believe him and enforce his words as such. No need for such an unlikely conspiracy theory, the contract has been readily available on Ryan Satin's site, right from the start.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 21:46:06 GMT -5
From an interview I heard a bit of today, a William Corgan of the NWA was working as an intermediary between them, and thought they had made some great progress, then Nordholm made his statement. Okay well if Billy thought "I'll get back in bed with the people that just f***ed me eight ways from Saturday" he's a bloody moron too. Despite his lack of pay he's still a rat in a cage
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Post by jagilki on May 24, 2017 21:51:33 GMT -5
Can't wait for Ed Nordholms wife to start producing music for TNA.
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Post by finallydeleted on May 24, 2017 21:52:24 GMT -5
Can't wait for Ed Nordholms wife to start producing music for TNA. And here's an early sample!
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Post by eJm on May 24, 2017 22:29:39 GMT -5
From an interview I heard a bit of today, a William Corgan of the NWA was working as an intermediary between them, and thought they had made some great progress, then Nordholm made his statement. ...THAT was what took him to stop talks?! Not the fact the company was sold to the people you were negotiating with under your nose without you knowing, thus causing the lawsuit in the first place? If Corgan thinks this wouldn't have bit him in the ass before this, I have the rights to the AWA to sell him.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 23:53:19 GMT -5
Let's say for sake of argument that TNA does in fact own the Broken gimmick. For a company that is on the verge of death and has a horrible perception from most fans. Is it really good business sense to with hold the characters that were by far the most cared about?
It would be like if if someone bought Burger King and immediately got rid of "The Whopper". Yeah, it's your company, you have the right to do it. But why do something that's so obviously going to piss off your customers?
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Post by Shark on May 25, 2017 0:51:32 GMT -5
Let's say for sake of argument that TNA does in fact own the Broken gimmick. For a company that is on the verge of death and has a horrible perception from most fans. Is it really good business sense to with hold the characters that were by far the most cared about? It would be like if if someone bought Burger King and immediately got rid of "The Whopper". Yeah, it's your company, you have the right to do it. But why do something that's so obviously going to piss off your customers? It honestly just doesn't make any sense to me. No one but the Hardy's can make the Broken gimmick work. If Anthem keep it, WWE's not going to want to negotiate to get it, which is what I think they want. WWE's just going to work around it and do something close to Broken without getting in legal trouble. Hell after all this, Matt might even discourage WWE from negotiating with Anthem. Now after all this, Nordholm has run the risk of alienating fans and other wrestlers. Say Anthem do win and get the full rights to the Broken gimmick. Then what? What good is supposed to come from this?
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 25, 2017 1:17:50 GMT -5
Say Anthem do win and get the full rights to the Broken gimmick. Then what? What good is supposed to come from this? My own opinion? And this has likely already been said here by others, but I don't think they really *want* the Broken gimmick as such. They're wanting a nice payday from somebody - the Hardys, WWE, whoever - to hand it over. They know it's worth money to others and are desperately attempting to hold it hostage. They're learning (or not) very quickly that the other players aren't going to play that game though.
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Post by Chainsaw on May 25, 2017 3:45:40 GMT -5
Say Anthem do win and get the full rights to the Broken gimmick. Then what? What good is supposed to come from this? My own opinion? And this has likely already been said here by others, but I don't think they really *want* the Broken gimmick as such. They're wanting a nice payday from somebody - the Hardys, WWE, whoever - to hand it over. They know it's worth money to others and are desperately attempting to hold it hostage. They're learning (or not) very quickly that the other players aren't going to play that game though. Exactly. They have no intention to utilize the gimmick, they're looking for money and to prevent the Hardys and WWE from making money off of it. It's something that happens a lot in the realm of copyright (and one primary reason why I am not a fan of how copyright law works). And again, I really don't see why anyone would want to work in TNA considering the current atmosphere and management. Not only are they asking for a steep cut of guys' indy bookings and asking a lot from them physically for little pay or reward, now there's always the chance that the company could expose you and break trust if you decide to leave. Is exposure on a national stage really that important for some guys? I was thinking that Nordholm did this just because everyone was saying "put up or shut up" in regards to the trademark, so he put up, but it didn't even do that. It just showed that they had more communications about the gimmick. And in regards to the WWE not being interested, there's no smoking gun there either. He talked to someone in WWE, they said they weren't interested. But not knowing who he talked to, it's hard to gauge how much access to the real info Nordholm had, he could have been talking to a VP or an assistant who was passing on secondhand knowledge in a game of telephone. And, as it's been mentioned, the WWE could just be playing it's nicey-nice game, making it seem like they're not interested so they can get the price lowered on what they want. Basically, no one comes out of this any better.
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Post by Dub H on May 25, 2017 7:33:41 GMT -5
Say Anthem do win and get the full rights to the Broken gimmick. Then what? What good is supposed to come from this? My own opinion? And this has likely already been said here by others, but I don't think they really *want* the Broken gimmick as such. They're wanting a nice payday from somebody - the Hardys, WWE, whoever - to hand it over. They know it's worth money to others and are desperately attempting to hold it hostage. They're learning (or not) very quickly that the other players aren't going to play that game though. Yeh,they made pretty clear their plan was to charge WWE or Hardies to use it.But they are not gonna buy in any circunstance.
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Post by Shark on May 25, 2017 9:48:22 GMT -5
WWE also might be pissed now that Nordholm leaked this info. So good luck with getting them to play ball.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 25, 2017 9:54:09 GMT -5
WWE also might be pissed now that Nordholm leaked this info. So good luck with getting them to play ball. Anthem: Acknowledge us Mcdevitt Mcdevitt: I don't have loose change. Scram
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Post by eJm on May 25, 2017 15:13:51 GMT -5
It's funny, most of the people up top at TNA are sabotaging their own careers and seem to be out to be vindictive more than making money.
Yet ROH's former boss and now ambassador Cary Silkin constantly tweets about how proud he is to be with ROH and constantly raves about the talent that's come in and, importantly, the people who've left too.
He just tweeted about how proud he was of Kyle O'Reilly for pete sake!
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Post by chrom on May 25, 2017 15:19:07 GMT -5
It's funny, most of the people up top at TNA are sabotaging their own careers and seem to be out to be vindictive more than making money. Yet ROH's former boss and now ambassador Cary Silkin constantly tweets about how proud he is to be with ROH and constantly raves about the talent that's come in and, importantly, the people who've left too. He just tweeted about how proud he was of Kyle O'Reilly for pete sake! Shows how toxic the place is, they're filled with some of the most hateful and spite filled people in all of wrestling
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Post by Dub H on May 25, 2017 16:17:09 GMT -5
It's funny, most of the people up top at TNA are sabotaging their own careers and seem to be out to be vindictive more than making money. Yet ROH's former boss and now ambassador Cary Silkin constantly tweets about how proud he is to be with ROH and constantly raves about the talent that's come in and, importantly, the people who've left too. He just tweeted about how proud he was of Kyle O'Reilly for pete sake! Shows how toxic the place is, they're filled with some of the most hateful and spite filled people in all of wrestling And that is quite an achievment
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Post by Shark on May 25, 2017 17:37:18 GMT -5
The more this sort of stuff happens, it makes me wonder if Impact really promotes a 'us vs them, the world is against us' kind of mentality. I mean, these just seem like such stupid blunders to make.
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