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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 10, 2017 6:20:49 GMT -5
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Oct 10, 2017 6:25:05 GMT -5
When you have Taco Bell and have to fart but don't trust it
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Oct 10, 2017 6:38:26 GMT -5
I'm going to be honest, and I say this with love: Bray's stuff wouldn't look that out of place in Lucha Underground. It's not really inherently sillier than Pentagon fighting ninjas and fighting himself in a cave like he's Luke Skywalker. It's just really poorly integrated into the product, and actively undermined by WWE itself, like they can't commit to it. They think they can sit back and say, "Oh, this is dumb." You don't really get to do that when it's YOU doing it. Just commit, WWE. You want to have a little Memphis or Kevin Sullivan? Do it and get your tongue out of your cheek, already. I disagree to a point. I do think the overall presentation of the character would work better in an environment like LU. But he'd still be the same mangled mess of a character with no defining point of reference to relate to. What exactly is he? Cult leader? Bayou voodoo priest? Demon lord? Something else? All the above? Who knows. There's nothing of real substance to explain what we're supposed to get out of him. He rambles about nothing in particular and even his feuds don't seem to have any real point. Presentation might not be such a big problem were he a better explained character. It's like they took every supernatural and spooky trope and shoved it into the Bray Wyatt box which in turn leads him to be everything and ultimately nothing all at once. But on the other hand, how much of the lack of direction, substance, or point to his feuds is in the fact that he's not really given much to work on? I've long held the attitude in another company or even in another medium altogether that the Bray Wyatt character would work a lot better than in WWE, where they throw him into meandering storylines that don't have any real end goal or point to them. Some of the best work he had was in his John Cena feud where, because Cena was worth them putting some thought into, he had a lot clearer direction and purpose. It wasn't a great purpose, but I felt like his promos gained a lot in substance and point to it; they took on a pointed quality that established a motivation for a change. In WWE, he's being used as a panic button and then having all these supernatural elements crammed into him by writers when that wasn't what the character really was when Bray made it, and they don't come off too well because of how WWE is structuring all of this stuff. Right now Bray Wyatt is, even if he's writing the words himself, subject to the whims of writers who don't understand him.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Oct 10, 2017 7:08:06 GMT -5
So I suppose this is Wyatt's counter to Finn's demon character. Will Abigail be wrestling the demon? Are we supposed to cheer for implied male on female violence now? I feel bad for any parents that have to explain this shit to their kids. I think it's pretty easy for parents to explain to their kids, they just need to say this "Well kids, sometimes...wrestling is just weird...like really, really weird."
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Post by The Yes Man on Oct 10, 2017 7:09:37 GMT -5
I loved that shit. Honestly
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 7:13:02 GMT -5
When you figure out how to use transitions in Windows Movie Maker.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 7:16:43 GMT -5
To me the worst part wasn't the segment itself. It was later in the show when they interview Finn and he's like "OMG, that was scary. What am I going to do!!!"
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Post by celticjobber on Oct 10, 2017 7:16:51 GMT -5
So Bray/Abigail was the one making those weird phone calls to Richard Gere in The Mothman Prophecies.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Oct 10, 2017 7:18:06 GMT -5
That shit is lamer than FDR's legs.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Oct 10, 2017 7:45:39 GMT -5
Was...was star wipe not available for a transition?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Oct 10, 2017 7:50:58 GMT -5
Was...was star wipe not available for a transition? At this point Bray Wyatt is a human star wipe.
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Post by BorneAgain on Oct 10, 2017 7:55:41 GMT -5
Given the altered voice is a dead ringer for it already, they should have just made Wyatt's alter ego the Kandyman:
"Finn will feel the back of my kandy hand!" would have been better than any other promo line Bray had.
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 10, 2017 8:09:29 GMT -5
Seriously, though, why'd they use a transition effect that makes his eyes merge together? They been eyeing to you man
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 10, 2017 8:16:49 GMT -5
To me the worst part wasn't the segment itself. It was later in the show when they interview Finn and he's like "OMG, that was scary. What am I going to do!!!" Bet it involves paint and a dopey hat.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Oct 10, 2017 8:27:51 GMT -5
To me the worst part wasn't the segment itself. It was later in the show when they interview Finn and he's like "OMG, that was scary. What am I going to do!!!" Yeah, Finn looks like even more of a goober than Wyatt does for having to react to that in any way other than laughing.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 10, 2017 8:41:26 GMT -5
Abi-Bray vs Demon Finn vs Willow
New boom period!
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 10, 2017 8:44:55 GMT -5
To me the worst part wasn't the segment itself. It was later in the show when they interview Finn and he's like "OMG, that was scary. What am I going to do!!!" Yeah, Finn looks like even more of a goober than Wyatt does for having to react to that in any way other than laughing. I'm convinced at this point that Finn's just along for the ride and doing his best to keep it polished. I hope his efforts at playing the straight man in all of this don't go unnoticed by the people that matter. This is the second week in a row that Finn's not wrestled on RAW. I hope the break is so he can resume wrestling with a much larger and more varied moveset. He's been practically hobbled so far since his return.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Oct 10, 2017 9:13:39 GMT -5
That shit is lamer than FDR's legs. *GASP*
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 10, 2017 9:18:58 GMT -5
Seriously, not using Mika Rotunda?
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Post by OldDirtyBernie on Oct 10, 2017 9:27:31 GMT -5
Obviously, the whole thing is ass. Balor's being shoehorned as a "dark" character because of the demon paint and that's never what it was meant to be. Aside from being a way to take advantage of the popularity he had with the airbrush prior to WWE without having to pay royalties, it was simply a manifestation of a certain mindset he wanted to have for certain matches.
Meanwhile, creative has had chance after chance after chance to either make him extremely interesting or even to rescue him from previous failings and turn the whole thing around. Along with the fact that he loses EVERY story he's in, they've botched the Wyatt character by basically trying to get EVERY dark-type character out of him. He's a cult leader, then mystical, supernatural, god-like, voodoo...it's ridiculous. The extra terrible part is that, at least the first few times he lost, fans of Wyatt had a glimmer of hope but then every single time creative just turns it up to 11 on the ridicu-shit scale.
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