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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 5, 2018 20:56:35 GMT -5
It's crazy, I can look at the NJ roster, and I don't think there's one guy I actively hate. Unlike WWE, when it's about half the guys I can't stand. Even Cody. Even Taichi. I just like how everyone operates. Hard to watch Elgin now, and awkward to watch his tag partners pretend to like him. I wonder if he'll be gone shortly. I can’t imagine Elgin is terribly popular anywhere he goes right now. If I were him, I’d be worried about my future with NJPW.
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Post by lionheart21 on Jan 5, 2018 20:58:19 GMT -5
Just finished NYD. Overall, I'm really happy to have made the jump to New Japan. I subscribed for Jericho, but after 2 shows I'm interested in a lot of these guys. I can't be the only one, either. I think Jericho is really doing for New Japan what Terry Funk did for ECW, and that's awesome. I stayed up all night so I could watch it live. I'm on the East Coast and the show started at 3AM. That says a lot about how much I'm now invested in this company.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Jan 5, 2018 20:58:32 GMT -5
It's crazy, I can look at the NJ roster, and I don't think there's one guy I actively hate. Unlike WWE, when it's about half the guys I can't stand. Even Cody. Even Taichi. I just like how everyone operates. Yano.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 5, 2018 21:00:03 GMT -5
LIJ are one of the best stables ever. I can't think of another group where I loved EVERY member as much as these lads. SANADA looks kind of goofy though coming out next to EVIL in just the little mask. He needs to amp up the crazy. That's because all five have distinct characters that could stay over outside the stable. It's like a meeting of madmen. They're the actual Legion Of Doom.
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Post by lionheart21 on Jan 5, 2018 21:00:35 GMT -5
It's crazy, I can look at the NJ roster, and I don't think there's one guy I actively hate. Unlike WWE, when it's about half the guys I can't stand. Even Cody. Even Taichi. I just like how everyone operates. Yano. I'm new to Toru, but the first time I saw him, my first thought was, "Is this guy supposed to be the Japanese Grado?"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 21:00:58 GMT -5
On the subject of who I dislike... The Young Bucks but damn if they aren't entertaining.
Also, I'm going back through the last three matches. I couldn't really pay attention when I watched cause My Mom was in and out of my room. Plus I really think I misjudged Jay White so I want to give him another chance with a clear mind.
Small tip to those new to New Japan World
If you search for a particular wrestler, you'd be surprised how far back the archives go. I was astounded to see matches from 1984 for Hogan up there when I searched.
They also have most of the WCW shows up as well.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 5, 2018 21:04:20 GMT -5
Like many people, this was my first NJPW show, and I was pretty much blown away. The only match that I didn't really enjoy was the gauntlet tag which was a bit too all over the place for me, but the rest was really enjoyable. It really was cool seeing all the different styles, from the constant action of the four-way, to the almost uncomfortable brutal nature of Suzuki/Goto, to what might have been the best hardcore brawl I've watched since Royal Rumble 2000 in Omega/Jericho.
Definitely going to use the rest of this month catching up with past events and might keep the subscription going from there.
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Post by Glitch on Jan 5, 2018 21:05:40 GMT -5
I just watched the Omega/Jericho match last night. Holy crap, I was marking out. It was like the Monday night war era all over again. I was legit worried that Kenny would tap out. I cant wait to watch the rest of the matches.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 5, 2018 21:07:15 GMT -5
Lance archer isn’t hot garbage anymore Dude's hot garbage, I hate him with a passion. Like, Miz hate him. But I guess that's the point, really.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 5, 2018 21:09:01 GMT -5
Hard to watch Elgin now, and awkward to watch his tag partners pretend to like him. I wonder if he'll be gone shortly. I can’t imagine Elgin is terribly popular anywhere he goes right now. If I were him, I’d be worried about my future with NJPW. Oh yeah, F him. But with everything that came out, and with War Machine heading to greener pastures, I don't see him lasting much longer, popular or not. Oh, and KES, screw them, too. But I usually don't count those guys like they're members of the roster.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 5, 2018 21:41:43 GMT -5
That was such a "f*** you" to Goto. He's like, you'll get this much and like it. I was hoping he'd shave his own head as a f*** you to Goto, and the man did not disappoint. More like Suzuki-God, amiright?
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 5, 2018 21:43:28 GMT -5
It's crazy, I can look at the NJ roster, and I don't think there's one guy I actively hate. Unlike WWE, when it's about half the guys I can't stand. Even Cody. Even Taichi. I just like how everyone operates. Yano. Nooooooope, I love Yano's antics. I need to watch more of his heel stuff too to get an even better appreciation. I love NJPW's goof wrestlers more than I think any other fed.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 5, 2018 21:47:05 GMT -5
This show has been crushing it so far. WrestleMania better step it up. {Spoiler}It won't.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Jan 5, 2018 21:47:43 GMT -5
Nooooooope, I love Yano's antics. I need to watch more of his heel stuff too to get an even better appreciation. I love NJPW's goof wrestlers more than I think any other fed. All of my disdain for Yano comes from that stupid face he makes.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 5, 2018 21:49:45 GMT -5
Guys in NJPW I actively dislike
Kazuchika Okada Taichi The Young Bucks Michael Elgin Gedo Will Ospreay Takashi Iizuka
Also, I dislike the tag team division booking and the overly long main events
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 5, 2018 21:50:45 GMT -5
NJPW New Year Dash January 5th, 2018 | Korakuen Hall in Tokyo, Japan | Attendance: 1,737
It’s NJPW’s equivalent to the Raw after WrestleMania. New Year Dash tends to kick off the year. It usually features a bunch of multi-man matches and some major angles. Two years ago, Kenny Omega and the Bullet Club turned on AJ Styles, which set Kenny on the run to the top that he’s been on ever since. Last year, Suzuki-Gun returned to the company. That went less well.
Manabu Nakanishi, TenKoji and Yuji Nagata vs. Ren Narita, Shota Umino, Tetsuhiro Yagi and Tomoyuki Oka The Young Lions against the Dads. The lions jumped them before the bell, showing that they wouldn’t be intimidated. From there, things evened out, with the veterans all getting a chance to do their thing. Yagi slapped Nagata at one point, causing some BLUE JUSTICE to run wild on his ass. The lions had a few shots at winning with Boston crabs and Umino got two on a solid German on Kojima. Kojima paid him back with a huge lariat to win in 7:09. Your standard tag involving these guys. The dads get to pop the crowd and be their awesome selves, while the lions continue to learn and improve. [**½]
El Desperado, Taichi, TAKA Michinoku, Takashi Iizuka and Yoshinobu Kanemaru vs. Henare, Hirai Kawato, Jushin Thunder Liger, Tiger Mask IV and Togi Makabe It’s been a year since Suzuki-Gun returned. The only ones I’m happy to have are Desperado and Minoru. Zack Sabre Jr. as well, but he came along later. Kawato is wild, and he hit the ring too soon, getting jumped by Suzuki-Gun. It’s interesting that Henare now has gear, seemingly graduating from young lion status. SG used all their usual tricks, with Henare taking the heat. Makabe got the hot tag and the faces got some stuff going from there. Kawato ended up alone in the end, and lost to Desperado’s Pinche Loco at 8:49. Not as annoying as most Suzuki-Gun matches. Most importantly, Henare looked fine and Kawato continued to impress. [**]
Post-match, Iizuka used his iron glove to knock out Kawato, who was carried to the back.
Seven Match Trial Series: Jay White vs. Katsuya Kitamura The winner of the Young Lion Cup, Katsuya Kitamura, embarks on a series of trial matches that starts here. Kitamura was too strong for Jay to start, so he went after the knee, which was already wrapped up coming into this. Jay looked more at home with his stuff here than at WK. He was more aggressive, his offense looked better, and he hit on the little things he needed to. Kitamura got worn down for a while, before using that power in his comeback. Jay blocked a suplex and pulled Kitamura into a crossface. He added elbows, before hitting the Blade Runner to win in 7:31. Though the WK match was better, this was a better showing for White. He looked a bit more comfortable in the role. The match saw solid back and forth stuff. I hope Kitamura doesn’t get sent on excursion. I can’t imagine there’s anything he could learn from a run in ROH or CMLL right now. [***]
Cheeseburger and Roppongi 3K w/ Rocky Romero vs. IWGP United States Heavyweight Champion Kenny Omega and IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Champions The Young Bucks Omega had his head and ribs bandaged. Matt was also worn down, so they made Nick do most of the work. We did eventually get to a Cheeseburger/Omega interaction, which got a nice little pop from the crowd. Seeing Cheeseburger do the Kojima chops to all three opponents was great. Of course, it led to him eating a trio of superkicks. Roppongi 3K hit some crisp, before the Cheeseburger train got going again. He’s a blast. Unfortunately for him, he got caught on a cross body and beaten with a popup Indytaker at 11:19. Fun little comedy match. The Bucks weren’t nearly as annoying as they usually are and Cheeseburger was a riot. I totally get them going the comedy route, especially Kenny, taking a night off after a physically demanding WK12. [**¾]
The Bullet Club (Chase Owens, Cody, Leo Tonga, Marty Scurll and Yujiro Takahashi) w/ Brandi Rhodes vs. Taguchi Japan (David Finlay, Juice Robinson, KUSHIDA and Ryusuke Taguchi) and Kota Ibushi Kota is an honorary Taguchi Japan member tonight. Brandi joined commentary for this and didn’t struggle as much as I expected. Juice brought fire to his early exchanges. I hope he wins some kind of title this year. Kota had some fun getting involved in the Taguchi Japan antics. It was a bit strange to see back to back matches with a comedy element. KUSHIDA got the hot tag run and had some solid interactions with everyone, even the limited Leo Tonga. Scurll had a great Indian death lock counter by grabbing KUSHIDA’s fingers to snap them. Their exchange was fun, leading to tags to Kota and Cody. After a bit of that, Finlay came in. Brandi got on the apron to distract him, allowing Cody to hook the American Nightmare and make him tap in 13:20. Some good natured fun and fine action. The stuff involving Kota, KUSHIDA, Cody, Juice and Scurll were best. [***]
Things got interesting in the aftermath. An angry Cody attacked Kota Ibushi. Juice tried to make the save, but ate Cross Rhodes. Cody directed Bullet Club traffic and brought a chair into play. However, Kenny Omega hit the ring and took the chair from Cody. The fans erupted as he got into a shoving match with Cody to save his buddy Kota. LOUD “Kenny” chants. Cooler heads prevailed and Cody left the ring. Kenny remained in the ring and said he was sick of the infighting within the Bullet Club. He said they haven’t been united in a long time and they need to be number one. Kenny called out Jay White to offer him a spot in the Bullet Club. Jay accepted and put on the Bullet Club shirt. BUT WAIT! Jay turned on Kenny and dropped him with the Blade Runner. He said he’s taking Kenny’s title and exited the ring before the BC returned. Lots going on here. The official Kenny babyface turn will be huge, White has another high profile program, the Bullet Club issues continue and the Kenny/Kota stuff was great. I like Jay not joining the group. Everyone’s in a stable, so I like someone wanting to be on his own.
NEVER Openweight Six Man Tag Team Championship: Beretta, Tomohiro Ishii and Toru Yano [c] vs. Bad Luck Fale and the Guerrillas of Destiny These titles changed hands on this show last year. In fact, there have been 16 reigns in the title’s two year history, and that’s with LIJ holding them for 228 days. This went the way you’d expect. Yano was Yano, getting into some wacky exchanges with Fale and Tama Tonga. Ishii, even though he looked unhappy to be there, put in the effort for his run in the match. He got to hit Fale with a German, which was the highlight. Beretta became the legal man for the finish. He went for the Dudebuster, but Tonga nailed him with the Gun Stun to give us new champions at 14:40. Too long for what it was. The action didn’t deliver the way it did in other matches. Also, while I’ve given up on concerning myself with the title changes, I do question Beretta taking the loss right after the high from last night. That’s what Yano’s for. [**¼]
IWGP Intercontinental Champion Hiroshi Tanahashi, Michael Elgin and War Machine vs. The Killer Elite Squad, Minoru Suzuki and Zack Sabre Jr. Minoru got a BALD HEAD. Minoru jumped Tanahashi during introductions to kick start this. I assume he’s jealous of Tanahashi’s hair. The match saw War Machine battle KES, while Sabre and Elgin got several moments together. The fans just weren’t buying into Elgin’s stuff anymore. I guess news travel over in Japan, too. Minoru focused on Tanahashi throughout. Either he went after him in the ring, or at ringside. It was like he made it his mission to destroy Tanahashi. The Killer Bomb put Hanson down for the finish at 11:36. This had some solid action, though it was nothing you need to see. [**¾]
What does need to be seen a bit more, was the post-match stuff. Suzuki trapped Tanahashi in a knee bar and made his intentions for the Intercontinental Title clear. If they keep the Suzuki-Gun stuff away, this should be awesome. I have their 2012 Heavyweight Title match at *****.
CHAOS (Gedo, NEVER Openweight Champion Hirooki Goto, IWGP Heavyweight Champion Kazuchika Okada, IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Champion Will Ospreay, and YOSHI-HASHI) vs. Los Ingobernables de Japon (BUSHI, Hiromu Takahashi, Tetsuya Naito, and IWGP Tag Team Champions EIVL and SANADA) Big ovation for Naito, who might be Teflon at this point. And no, just because he remains over as hell, doesn’t mean it was a good decision for him to lose at WK12. Anyway, when you get CHAOS vs. LIJ, you’re almost always guaranteed one hell of a show. They delivered again here. Naito and Okada had some good exchanges with a hot crowd, but the stuff involving everyone else was rad. YOSHI did his best to pick up an upset over the tired Naito, but he couldn’t muster it. Everyone got their stuff in and they’ve met so often that is all came off very crisp. They did a strong job teasing Goto/EVIL and Hiromu/Ospreay. In the end, Naito beat YOSHI with Destino after 13:51. He gets a win back but it doesn’t mean much considering he lost at WK. The match itself was a very good main event. [***½]
After the match, SANADA choked out Kazuchika Okada. Tetsuya Naito got the show closing promo and his buddies left him alone to bask in the crowd’s response. However, Chris Jericho ran in and attacked him. The young lions and wrestlers from the back had to break up the fight. Naito threatened to throw a chair out at Jericho, but instead just sat down and taunted him to get back in the ring. Looks like they’re next in line for one another.
Overall: 7/10. For the most part, this show worked to serve exactly the purpose it needed to. Most of the matches were fine, with the main event being the highlight. However, it succeeded in setting things up going forward. Naito/Jericho, Okada/SANADA, EVIL/Goto, Hiromu/Ospreay, Tanahashi/Suzuki and Omega/White were all set up here, while they also furthered the Omega stories with Cody and Ibushi. Not as newsworthy as the past two years, but a fun show.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 21:50:59 GMT -5
So I finished Tanahashi vs Jay White
I will say this.
For now, Jay White is good. However, I will admit that I was wrong. Once he settles and finds his groove, he's going to be something great.
The problem is, he was against Tanahashi who with one good stiff blow could turn to dust at any moment. Then he was against a Young Lion, with all due respect.
Once we can see Jay White against someone he can really cut loose with, then we'll see.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Jan 5, 2018 22:01:49 GMT -5
I think the biggest issue for Elgin at NYD was his lack of selling. He didn't really sell anything happening in the ring at all. Kind of hard to care about a guy's struggles when he's nonchalant.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 5, 2018 22:24:56 GMT -5
Idk. Jay White doesn't look brooding enough. He's the rich kid who acts angsty because he got the wrong car for his 16th birthday. Somebody on the nL chat said he was Kylo Ren. I cannot disagree with that assessment. Still, I like it on him. I think he'll grow into it.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 5, 2018 22:26:50 GMT -5
Nooooooope, I love Yano's antics. I need to watch more of his heel stuff too to get an even better appreciation. I love NJPW's goof wrestlers more than I think any other fed. All of my disdain for Yano comes from that stupid face he makes. Well, I don't know what to tell you except:
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