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Post by The Blue Nova on May 9, 2018 10:33:21 GMT -5
It is really sad, how Becky Lynch is booked on Smackdown. She is easily one of the most over females on the roster a great role model, amazing in the ring yet they never push her and always have her lose. It seems on smackdown the only females who get pushed are the good looking ones with sex appeal, Carmella, Iconics, Mandy Rose, or have the last name flair. I know we live in a world and society now where being good looking is more important then talent but it is crazy how they push her almost like a jobber. Becky should be the face of smackdown. Her merchandise sells she is over with the crowd the younger kids look up to her. I guess we can thank road dogg and kevin dunn!
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Post by Dub H on May 9, 2018 10:35:45 GMT -5
How Road Dogg sees Becky:
Meanwhile she should be in the Charlotte Spot,she should be THE face of SD! Woman Division
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 10:42:13 GMT -5
WWE.com has started pushing the narrative that her storyline is officially "The Losing Streak" which is always a shitty gimmick that never helps anyone. Most are lucky to come out the otherside of such a plot at least the same as they were.
But the narrative of her not being pushed because she isn't a supermodel is ridiculous. She looks like a supermodel (and dresses like a fetishist). The only difference between her and Carmella is hair color in terms of looks.
I think it's pretty obvious she's just building to a "frustrated face turns heel" story so she can feud with Asuka more than likely.
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Post by The Blue Nova on May 9, 2018 10:46:18 GMT -5
WWE.com has started pushing the narrative that her storyline is officially "The Losing Streak" which is always a shitty gimmick that never helps anyone. Most are lucky to come out the otherside of such a plot at least the same as they were. But the narrative of her not being pushed because she isn't a supermodel is ridiculous. She looks like a supermodel (and dresses like a fetishist). The only difference between her and Carmella is hair color in terms of looks. I think it's pretty obvious she's just building to a "frustrated face turns heel" story so she can feud with Asuka more than likely. I agree she looks like a super model to. Im just saying carmella and the the others are pushed more because of sex appeal
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 9, 2018 10:48:09 GMT -5
I highly doubt it’s anything personal, it’s just a consequence of how loaded the face side of the SmackDown women’s division actually is. You have Charlotte, the appointed ace of the division, then Asuka, who has taken one clean singles loss in nearly three years, then Naomi and Lynch. Unless they start using proper enhancement talents more regularly again (and no, Lynch doesn’t count, wisenheimers), she has ended up as the bottom face of the division seemingly by default.
Her W/L record this year is about the same as most of the rest of the women in the company. Hell, it’s better than Alexa Bliss’s. But once again, the name of the game is presentation. You can go close to 50/50 and still be seen as 10/90 if that presentation goes against you.
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Post by joeiscool on May 9, 2018 10:49:37 GMT -5
honestly I don't think sex appeal has anything to do with it.
She's taking a back seat so that other people can look good. Eventually they will give her a shot at things again.
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Post by Dub H on May 9, 2018 10:49:46 GMT -5
WWE.com has started pushing the narrative that her storyline is officially "The Losing Streak" which is always a shitty gimmick that never helps anyone. Most are lucky to come out the otherside of such a plot at least the same as they were. But the narrative of her not being pushed because she isn't a supermodel is ridiculous. She looks like a supermodel (and dresses like a fetishist). The only difference between her and Carmella is hair color in terms of looks. I think it's pretty obvious she's just building to a "frustrated face turns heel" story so she can feud with Asuka more than likely. The only person I ever remember that came out good of one is MVP He managed to get sympathy and turn into a popular face
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on May 9, 2018 10:50:26 GMT -5
I'm not sure if looks has to do with anything considering she's a good looking, well toned, white woman named Becky which pretty much fills all the checkmarks for stereotypical Western beauty. Naomi, Natlaya, and Charlotte aren't necessarily pushed for their sex appeal either and they all got runs with the title.
That said I'm honestly not sure what the issue is. I can't say it's the 'tomboy' excuse because Lita, Paige and AJ received the biggest of pushes. Becky never got the protective treatment that most of her NXT colleagues got so that may be a factor. It could also just simply boil down to Vince not taking her seriously because of her accent. Something vain like that. It's a huge anomaly and I honestly think she would do better on RAW as dreadful as it sounds.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 9, 2018 10:59:53 GMT -5
It kills me that she isn't the top face of the division. She has all the skills necessary, just needs the booking to go along with it.
I REALLY wish they would do more with her steampunk motif, because it really sets her apart. The wings they were working on for her would have been very cool for a WrestleMania entrance.
If they ever built up a women's tag division, I'd have her team with Kairi and merge their aesthetic into steampunk pirates.
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Post by Dub H on May 9, 2018 11:01:24 GMT -5
It kills me that she isn't the top face of the division. She has all the skills necessary, just needs the booking to go along with it. I REALLY wish they would do more with her steampunk motif, because it really sets her apart. The wings they were working on for her would have been very cool for a WrestleMania entrance. If they ever built up a women's tag division, I'd have her team with Kairi and merge their aesthetic into steampunk pirates. Never I wanted something so much and never knew.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 11:08:22 GMT -5
I think she's going to go heel this year or at least that's what they're building it up as in my eyes. Hell, Becky and Charlotte watching Becky win the SDL Women's Title the other day even further pushes the theory.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 9, 2018 11:28:54 GMT -5
She can probably use a heel turn to be honest
Face side of SD is stacked and by default of Asuka and Charlotte being the faves it would be better for Becky to make that turn
She has history with Charlotte and I think her and Asuka can have competitive matches
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 9, 2018 11:33:05 GMT -5
I bet Becky could be a more effective heel than Charlotte is as a face.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 11:33:48 GMT -5
If a heel turns her Twitter feed into anything else other than what it is already, WWE can just go straight to Hades I tell you what.
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Post by Reflecto on May 9, 2018 11:46:01 GMT -5
I highly doubt it’s anything personal, it’s just a consequence of how loaded the face side of the SmackDown women’s division actually is. You have Charlotte, the appointed ace of the division, then Asuka, who has taken one clean singles loss in nearly three years, then Naomi and Lynch. Unless they start using proper enhancement talents more regularly again (and no, Lynch doesn’t count, wisenheimers), she has ended up as the bottom face of the division seemingly by default. Her W/L record this year is about the same as most of the rest of the women in the company. Hell, it’s better than Alexa Bliss’s. But once again, the name of the game is presentation. You can go close to 50/50 and still be seen as 10/90 if that presentation goes against you. This. So much this. The big problem with Becky Lynch is less "Becky's getting berried" and more "The Smackdown face/heel divide is just too out of wack to be sustainable." The worst booking move Smackdown made last year- worse than even Jinder Mahal's title reign- was "Charlotte turns face in the Shakeup." Once that happened, the top three women on Smackdown were ALL babyfaces, and you had the problem: Yes, Becky Lynch is a good face who deserves the Women's Title. So is Naomi. So is Charlotte. BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE WOMEN'S TITLE! What- are the three of them supposed to share it? all of the heel women: Carmella, Natalya, Lana, and Tamina- varied from "good talkers who can't work" (Lana/Carmella), to "Local Woman" (Natalya), to "She is so hopeless that even calling her a Local Woman does not grasp the full Local Woman-ness of her Local Woman being. She is literally the worst person- male or female- on the roster. Even Randy Orton to Jinder Mahal wasn't "destroy the best man on the roster to prop up the worst man on the roster' was not as bad as her push was. She is so utterly worthless in the ring that daring to drop Charlotte Flair, one of the top stars in the women's division down a level, just to prop her up borderlines on WWE being sexist." (Tamina.) With levels on those, eventually Becky had to be on the backburner, because there were only three valid women, they all were faces, and they all had an equally viable case...and it was SO equal that if WWE went with Becky, then we would have gotten this post: t is really sad, how Naomi is booked on Smackdown. She is easily one of the most over females on the roster a great role model, amazing in the ring yet they never push her and always have her lose. It seems on smackdown the only females who get pushed are the good looking ones with sex appeal, Carmella, Iconics, Mandy Rose, or are members of the Four Horsewomen. I know we live in a world and society now where being good looking is more important then talent but it is crazy how they push her almost like a jobber. Naomi should be the face of smackdown. Her merchandise sells she is over with the crowd the younger kids look up to her. I guess we can thank road dogg and kevin dunn!
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Post by theironyuppie on May 9, 2018 12:11:28 GMT -5
I highly doubt it’s anything personal, it’s just a consequence of how loaded the face side of the SmackDown women’s division actually is. You have Charlotte, the appointed ace of the division, then Asuka, who has taken one clean singles loss in nearly three years, then Naomi and Lynch. Unless they start using proper enhancement talents more regularly again (and no, Lynch doesn’t count, wisenheimers), she has ended up as the bottom face of the division seemingly by default. Her W/L record this year is about the same as most of the rest of the women in the company. Hell, it’s better than Alexa Bliss’s. But once again, the name of the game is presentation. You can go close to 50/50 and still be seen as 10/90 if that presentation goes against you. This. So much this. The big problem with Becky Lynch is less "Becky's getting berried" and more "The Smackdown face/heel divide is just too out of wack to be sustainable." The worst booking move Smackdown made last year- worse than even Jinder Mahal's title reign- was "Charlotte turns face in the Shakeup." Once that happened, the top three women on Smackdown were ALL babyfaces, and you had the problem: Yes, Becky Lynch is a good face who deserves the Women's Title. So is Naomi. So is Charlotte. BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE WOMEN'S TITLE! What- are the three of them supposed to share it? all of the heel women: Carmella, Natalya, Lana, and Tamina- varied from "good talkers who can't work" (Lana/Carmella), to "Local Woman" (Natalya), to "She is so hopeless that even calling her a Local Woman does not grasp the full Local Woman-ness of her Local Woman being. She is literally the worst person- male or female- on the roster. Even Randy Orton to Jinder Mahal wasn't "destroy the best man on the roster to prop up the worst man on the roster' was not as bad as her push was. She is so utterly worthless in the ring that daring to drop Charlotte Flair, one of the top stars in the women's division down a level, just to prop her up borderlines on WWE being sexist." (Tamina.) With levels on those, eventually Becky had to be on the backburner, because there were only three valid women, they all were faces, and they all had an equally viable case...and it was SO equal that if WWE went with Becky, then we would have gotten this post: t is really sad, how Naomi is booked on Smackdown. She is easily one of the most over females on the roster a great role model, amazing in the ring yet they never push her and always have her lose. It seems on smackdown the only females who get pushed are the good looking ones with sex appeal, Carmella, Iconics, Mandy Rose, or are members of the Four Horsewomen. I know we live in a world and society now where being good looking is more important then talent but it is crazy how they push her almost like a jobber. Naomi should be the face of smackdown. Her merchandise sells she is over with the crowd the younger kids look up to her. I guess we can thank road dogg and kevin dunn! Its annoying. WWE seemingly gave Naomi a big push, even getting her to beat Alexa Bliss clean without losing in return, a feat so far only equaled by Charlotte, Asuka, and Nia. Then they pissed away what momentum they made by giving her nothing to do as champion, aside from a tedious feud with Lana. Like you, I do think this whole issue with Becky (who deserves better) is the product of such lopsided faces/heels, with a bunch of people better at talking than wrestling being opposed to the two aces of the women's division (across Raw and SDL) as well as Becky/Naomi. Assuming they don't want to turn Charlotte (interestingly--there's even a possibility that she could wind up being the face opposite Ronda if WWE decides to pursue that path). Becky's definitely a strong enough promo to make a turn work, and if they could do something later in the year like get Nikki Cross from NXT, then you'd have two strong workers on either side, and that'd easily be enough to sustain the division for a good while.
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Post by MrElijah on May 9, 2018 12:16:20 GMT -5
They need jobbers to feed the named talent, so the names don't have suffer to 50/50 booking and the such.
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Post by hargh on May 9, 2018 12:24:09 GMT -5
At least she's not farting.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 9, 2018 12:29:10 GMT -5
At least she's not farting. VINCE: NATTIE, WE'RE BRINGING BACK YOUR FARTING GIMMICK. YOU'RE TEAMING WITH BECKY. Nattie: Why Becky? VINCE: *lights fart on fire, dies laughing*
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 12:32:17 GMT -5
It is weird that the narrative with Becky not getting much of a push is that Kevin Dunn and Vince hate her accent much like they didn’t like Emma’s yet Paige is the GM and Peyton & Billie get mic time every week.
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