adamclark52
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Post by adamclark52 on Oct 9, 2018 0:16:24 GMT -5
I knowing rick is going is worse than rick going. After a few more episodes it’s just gonna be like “get it over with already”
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 9, 2018 0:39:41 GMT -5
I don’t think I can handle The Walking Dead without Rick 😩 Rick IS the show. The fact that we’re going to get an ending that doesn’t involve Rick makes me feel like I’ve wasted the past 8 years of my life watching it. I’m hoping he just “leaves” and doesn’t get killed off. I want the door to be open for a return. Honestly I see him getting killed off. It makes no sense character wise for him to leave behind Judith and Michonne. From an artistic standpoint there's no way he'd go into a self imposed exile leaving behind the two people he loves. Either he's going to die and be {Spoiler}{Spoiler}head on the pike or he goes down in a blaze of glory. I'd actually kill him off the same way they did Andrea in the comics
Make it really emotional as in this is a big event he's really gone and move on
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Oct 9, 2018 1:45:47 GMT -5
Honestly I see him getting killed off. It makes no sense character wise for him to leave behind Judith and Michonne. From an artistic standpoint there's no way he'd go into a self imposed exile leaving behind the two people he loves. Either he's going to die and be {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}head on the pike or he goes down in a blaze of glory. I'd actually kill him off the same way they did Andrea in the comics Make it really emotional as in this is a big event he's really gone and move on
I can't remember as it's been awhile. How did Andrea die in the comics?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 9, 2018 2:02:11 GMT -5
I'd actually kill him off the same way they did Andrea in the comics Make it really emotional as in this is a big event he's really gone and move on
I can't remember as it's been awhile. How did Andrea die in the comics? They did it somewhat already with Carl
Bit in the neck trying to save somebody (I believe Magna or someone in her group) during a round up. She died in her and Rick bed after saying goodbye. Rick couldn't stab her in the head and was crying. Shortly after she reawakens as a walker and this time he has to brutally stab her in the head to put her down. They bury her and in the middle of the night Rick gets out his bed and goes to sleep next to her grave
Essentially would have to do the same thing with Rick except roles are reversed and it's Michonne who puts him down
I can't see them having him being done in by the Whispers
{Spoiler} Hopefully, they save Ezekiel too. I can see Carol being someone they did off if they really wanted to. Right now Rosita is still someone who def is getting caught
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 9, 2018 2:15:56 GMT -5
Oh course in saying that though it only makes sense that the whispers are the one to kill him since they are the big bad of the season and if Rick is leaving than you need to sell them as big threat
I'm not enthusiastic about the season but I probably will be once Rick is killed off and we see the fallout from that
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 9, 2018 2:17:40 GMT -5
I don’t think I can handle The Walking Dead without Rick 😩 Rick IS the show. The fact that we’re going to get an ending that doesn’t involve Rick makes me feel like I’ve wasted the past 8 years of my life watching it. I’m hoping he just “leaves” and doesn’t get killed off. I want the door to be open for a return. Killing off Rick wouldn't be as bad if they still had Carl around which you can say he continues the Grimes legacy
However, with no Grimes except Judith it's going to be a diff show and I can't see Daryl being the big focal point. Then you add on Maggie leaving too and that's two big character gone on top of Carl last year
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 9, 2018 2:31:58 GMT -5
Well curiosity killed the cat
Read some things I shouldn't have, I did that to myself lol
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Post by celticjobber on Oct 9, 2018 3:18:50 GMT -5
I loved the premiere. Despite Rick and my favorite character Maggie leaving, this season looks promising.
I've been avoiding any spoilers about Rick's fate, but I assumed they would take the comics Andrea route.
And speaking of the comics, I read some interesting things about next week's episode including a remix on a pretty big event from the source material.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 9, 2018 14:20:40 GMT -5
I don’t think I can handle The Walking Dead without Rick 😩 Rick IS the show. The fact that we’re going to get an ending that doesn’t involve Rick makes me feel like I’ve wasted the past 8 years of my life watching it. I’m hoping he just “leaves” and doesn’t get killed off. I want the door to be open for a return. Killing off Rick wouldn't be as bad if they still had Carl around which you can say he continues the Grimes legacy However, with no Grimes except Judith it's going to be a diff show and I can't see Daryl being the big focal point. Then you add on Maggie leaving too and that's two big character gone on top of Carl last year
Honestly, I'd have killed Rick years ago, probably instead of Glenn. Then you have Glenn who was essentially the number 2 and has to step up and prove himself, Carl to carry on the Grimes family so there is a throughline for the whole series. That would have been the time to give the show a huge shakeup and throw a spanner into what people were expecting. Right now, either Ezekiel or Carol is gone, doing the whole marriage proposal, but she leaves but they say they'll meet back up again and work it out, that is a death warrant.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 9, 2018 14:21:57 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 9, 2018 14:28:16 GMT -5
Killing off Rick wouldn't be as bad if they still had Carl around which you can say he continues the Grimes legacy However, with no Grimes except Judith it's going to be a diff show and I can't see Daryl being the big focal point. Then you add on Maggie leaving too and that's two big character gone on top of Carl last year
Honestly, I'd have killed Rick years ago, probably instead of Glenn. Then you have Glenn who was essentially the number 2 and has to step up and prove himself, Carl to carry on the Grimes family so there is a throughline for the whole series. That would have been the time to give the show a huge shakeup and throw a spanner into what people were expecting. Right now, either Ezekiel or Carol is gone, doing the whole marriage proposal, but she leaves but they say they'll meet back up again and work it out, that is a death warrant. They really had no reason to kill Rick. Killing Glenn there was the right decision because it was his moment and his character story was finished just like Abe was
The big mistake they made was spending 2 seasons on this war and making Rick and his group be totally "bitchified" before finally standing up. Killing Carl was the nail in the coffin because it was purely a death for shock purposes. Chandler purchased a house in ATL because he knew what the next arc was after this and was prepared for the long haul but they killed him off just because just like Andrea
Kirkman always said everyone will die before the show ends so the TV show is def taking that to heart. The best thing about Rick leaving is the fact now everyone is fair game and shouldn't have plot armor
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Oct 9, 2018 14:45:40 GMT -5
As most people have said it'd probably be a different story in ratings if Lincoln leaving wasn't public knowledge.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 9, 2018 14:52:01 GMT -5
As most people have said it'd probably be a different story in ratings if Lincoln leaving wasn't public knowledge. Well once it became knowledge and they confirmed it they were already screwed
The biggest backfire is AMC trying to capitalize on this and using the ads to hype up "Rick Grimes Final Episodes"
I just think in general with the way the season ended last season it was going to be a low season and with Rick confirming he's leaving that made it worse
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 9, 2018 15:50:09 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd have killed Rick years ago, probably instead of Glenn. Then you have Glenn who was essentially the number 2 and has to step up and prove himself, Carl to carry on the Grimes family so there is a throughline for the whole series. That would have been the time to give the show a huge shakeup and throw a spanner into what people were expecting. Right now, either Ezekiel or Carol is gone, doing the whole marriage proposal, but she leaves but they say they'll meet back up again and work it out, that is a death warrant. They really had no reason to kill Rick. Killing Glenn there was the right decision because it was his moment and his character story was finished just like Abe was The big mistake they made was spending 2 seasons on this war and making Rick and his group be totally "bitchified" before finally standing up. Killing Carl was the nail in the coffin because it was purely a death for shock purposes. Chandler purchased a house in ATL because he knew what the next arc was after this and was prepared for the long haul but they killed him off just because just like Andrea Kirkman always said everyone will die before the show ends so the TV show is def taking that to heart. The best thing about Rick leaving is the fact now everyone is fair game and shouldn't have plot armor
See, to me, Rick's story was the one that was over. Started out as the good guy, the optimist who took charge and led the group. Then over the course of the series is broken and betrayed till he's just another ruthless killer who we just happened to be following. Heck his offer to the Hilltop was pretty much "we kill Negan, then you give us the same deal which you're not happy with" and slaughtering people in their sleep. He'd done the arc and his descent leading to his death, just the same as all the people who'd been an asshole to his group would have been a good ending dramatically. Glenn though, he started out as just a guy running around and getting stuff. He started with nothing, then he grew more confident, without betraying the person he was. He was growing and changing, he found a girlfriend, then a wife, then a baby, he was slowly building an actual life in this new world. Rick dying would be the next step of this, now he has to be the leader. Build a group from disparate communities to take down the group that Rick just went in there to kill, from there you can move on to having a settled community under his leadership.
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adamclark52
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Post by adamclark52 on Oct 14, 2018 22:14:47 GMT -5
Where the f*** is this show going?!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 14, 2018 22:17:30 GMT -5
Where the f*** is this show going?! Shit episode?
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adamclark52
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Post by adamclark52 on Oct 14, 2018 22:18:43 GMT -5
Where the f*** is this show going?! Shit episode? I think it was a rerun from season six... or three.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 14, 2018 22:20:49 GMT -5
I think it was a rerun from season six... or three. So Rick is being a dick and a dictator then
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adamclark52
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Post by adamclark52 on Oct 14, 2018 22:23:10 GMT -5
Only nice part was Garbage Lady and Gabriel.
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Post by cabbageboy on Oct 14, 2018 22:27:22 GMT -5
I'm glad that the Rick stuff was mentioned from back in Season 6. The whole storyline of killing some of the Saviors as they slept was one of the darkest, frankly egregious things I've ever seen from a protagonist in a TV series or in a film. It was just flat out cold blooded murder and I couldn't look at any of our "heroes" the same after doing something like that. Negan retaliated by killing 2 of them, which if you think about it is actually letting them off light. It was just the manner of him doing it. The whole Negan/Glenn/Abraham episode is one of those shows that broke the unwritten contract that exists between a TV show (or film)'s producers and the viewer. We have to trust a show or film not to do something that is way stupid or over the line, something that leaves a viewer legit disgusted or never wanting to watch ever again. That episode crossed the line for a lot of people and they stopped watching. The movie Mother I think is another example of something I felt broke the basic contract of viewer and director, regardless of whatever point Darren Aronofsky was trying to make.
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