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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 23:06:37 GMT -5
It's just funny because you look at Becky and IMO one of the reasons she's so popular both online and with live crowds is because she loves what she's doing and it shows.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 9, 2018 23:11:24 GMT -5
It's dumb, and honestly exists is a lot more industries than we care to acknowledge.
Two of the places I used to write for had rules about taking pictures with interview subjects and used to preach against it, enforcing a "you're not there to be their friend" attitude toward musicians. In retrospect, this is such bullshit and I really regret not getting more pictures, especially when the artists themselves or their managers/handlers offered. I was always super friendly and researched before my chats, so why would a pic at the end mar the experience? Just some older curmudgeons from the top down trying to spread their misery.
And so many coastal music journalists themselves think they're the stars and earned a right to be jaded by only peddling snark, and weirdly look down on writing celebratory articles and spotlighting quality music from artists that the writer knows personally. Just ridiculous.
Additionally, in the hip-hop world it at one point was so standoffish for new artists. Like, the original pioneers who had their biggest impact from like '78-'85 were super cool, but then after there's quite a few cats who would be bitter that they weren't more recognized, and then when you went out of your way to compliment them on something they did that you liked, they got all dismissive and acted like you're inconveniencing them and being a dick rider. It's like the only way to show respect is to just nod if you make eye contact and say nothing.
I'm sure there's more parallels to these silly WWE unspoken rules in other industries, but those are the two I've experienced first hand.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 9, 2018 23:15:38 GMT -5
This is one thing where Triple H getting so much influence is a good thing ironically enough. Triple H, as immature as his humor is and as tough as he was, is a guy that is very against hazing, bullying, or taking liberties in the ring. A lot of guys who have left WWE in recent years have said how Triple H encourages guys to be themselves and more people are showing their love for the business
That reminds me of a funny/alarming story from Ricardo Rodriguez's shoot interview. Apparently back when the Shield were debuting the vets actually frowned upon wrestlers using ice packs if they were just called up to the main roster (apparently Cena/Orton got pissed at Rollins for putting an ice pack on his neck and getting a massage after his table spot in the Shield debut because he didn't earn that right yet)
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 9, 2018 23:19:06 GMT -5
This is one thing where Triple H getting so much influence is a good thing ironically enough. Triple H, as immature as his humor is and as tough as he was, is a guy that is very against hazing, bullying, or taking liberties in the ring. A lot of guys who have left WWE in recent years have said how Triple H encourages guys to be themselves and more people are showing their love for the business That reminds me of a funny/alarming story from Ricardo Rodriguez's shoot interview. Apparently back when the Shield were debuting the vets actually frowned upon wrestlers using ice packs if they were just called up to the main roster (apparently Cena/Orton got pissed at Rollins for putting an ice pack on his neck and getting a massage after his table spot in the Shield debut because he didn't earn that right yet) ...didn't earn the right for base level physical care. Man what a weird culture wrestling is.
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Post by schma on Aug 9, 2018 23:20:47 GMT -5
It's such a crazy business. They hate fans who don't mark out the way they should and they hate employees who are fans of the company. The whole situation just seems so illogical. Also, the idea that you have to earn basic shit like an ice pack is just freaking insane. Dude put his body through a table, he earned it. It'll be nice if things keep going in the direction they are and I'm curious to see how things look in ten years (if Vince isn't still running the show).
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Post by Main Eventer on Aug 9, 2018 23:22:31 GMT -5
I think Shelton was more concerned with Vince seeing it and firing him thinking JTG was him.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 9, 2018 23:27:01 GMT -5
I think Shelton was more concerned with Vince seeing it and firing him thinking JTG was him. That or water damaging his phone from the tears in his eyes he'd get every time he turned the screen on and saw Bret.
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Post by Dean-o on Aug 9, 2018 23:29:28 GMT -5
Carnies gonna carn.
I understand the old school mentally guys had of protecting the business and what not, but those days are in the past. In many ways, pro wrestling to this day continues to be a unique form of entertainment that looks down on it’s fan base.
If we take it at face value, we’re dumb marks. If we try to learn the business, we’re dumb smarks who think we know it all. Worst of all, if someone loves the business so much they choose to sacrifice their body and family life to make this a profession, don’t you dare show any appreciation for the generation you grew up watching.
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Post by Cela on Aug 10, 2018 0:03:28 GMT -5
Guessing it has to do with people treating it as their job looking down on those who see it as an amazing dream.
For comparison, back in my acting days, the background people who had been on set for years kind of snickered at the young upstarts who would freak out and gush when a celeb came on set. After you've been in the industry for a while, it becomes like any other job. Sure, you work a blockbuster and can see it be cool, but you don't fanboy as much anymore except for some Wrestlemania moments.
I can see Undertaker getting annoyed when some giant musclebound dude just out of the training center goes "OH MY GOD! THE UNDERTAKER" when he just wants to be called Mark and not have to roll his eyes into the back of his head when he's backstage.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 10, 2018 0:05:26 GMT -5
This is one thing where Triple H getting so much influence is a good thing ironically enough. Triple H, as immature as his humor is and as tough as he was, is a guy that is very against hazing, bullying, or taking liberties in the ring. A lot of guys who have left WWE in recent years have said how Triple H encourages guys to be themselves and more people are showing their love for the business That reminds me of a funny/alarming story from Ricardo Rodriguez's shoot interview. Apparently back when the Shield were debuting the vets actually frowned upon wrestlers using ice packs if they were just called up to the main roster (apparently Cena/Orton got pissed at Rollins for putting an ice pack on his neck and getting a massage after his table spot in the Shield debut because he didn't earn that right yet) ...didn't earn the right for base level physical care. Man what a weird culture wrestling is. It's a very strange culture. Guys in the indies, or who were hired just before NXT started love the performance center, Triple H, and how things are ran. While guys who came up in developmental before hand thing the Performance Center and NXT give the wrestlers too many tools to succeed... it's... very very weird and I think there's a huge disconnect between the old guard and new guard.... almost like there is jealousy because of a perceived lack of earning it (though guys who came up in the indies absolutely scratch and claw)
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 10, 2018 0:06:50 GMT -5
This is one thing where Triple H getting so much influence is a good thing ironically enough. Triple H, as immature as his humor is and as tough as he was, is a guy that is very against hazing, bullying, or taking liberties in the ring. A lot of guys who have left WWE in recent years have said how Triple H encourages guys to be themselves and more people are showing their love for the business That reminds me of a funny/alarming story from Ricardo Rodriguez's shoot interview. Apparently back when the Shield were debuting the vets actually frowned upon wrestlers using ice packs if they were just called up to the main roster (apparently Cena/Orton got pissed at Rollins for putting an ice pack on his neck and getting a massage after his table spot in the Shield debut because he didn't earn that right yet) Triple H being such a die-hard mark that he collects NWA memorabilia and bringing that sentiment into the big leagues is one of those little things that might not make for some massive sweeping change across the product when he takes over, but even if it only helps a little, it's something.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 10, 2018 0:17:48 GMT -5
It'd baffling especially for jobs like the creative team or working for the magazine and website.
Surely being a fan is something WWE would want. Someone who knows the wrestlers and history.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Aug 10, 2018 0:31:47 GMT -5
This is one thing where Triple H getting so much influence is a good thing ironically enough. Triple H, as immature as his humor is and as tough as he was, is a guy that is very against hazing, bullying, or taking liberties in the ring. A lot of guys who have left WWE in recent years have said how Triple H encourages guys to be themselves and more people are showing their love for the business That reminds me of a funny/alarming story from Ricardo Rodriguez's shoot interview. Apparently back when the Shield were debuting the vets actually frowned upon wrestlers using ice packs if they were just called up to the main roster (apparently Cena/Orton got pissed at Rollins for putting an ice pack on his neck and getting a massage after his table spot in the Shield debut because he didn't earn that right yet) If that's true, Cena and Orton can both go EAD. I'd love to see John confronted with that story on his next Today Show spot. Carny f*** can cover up what an asshole he is with all the Make A Wish he wants, he's a shitty coworker.
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 10, 2018 0:47:05 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I lost a job with WWE when I started out the interview by saying I felt I was qualified for the job because I was a huge fan of the product, and knew it very well. It was an awkward interview that I honestly wasn't ready for (phone interview that actually woke me up that I wasn't expecting, I was very unprepared for it) and I could feel the air went out of it almost immediately. Even though it was my dream job at the time, and I really needed a job at the time, I probably dodged a bullet after talking to one of my friends who actually worked for them for a while. What kinda position were you looking for? I don't even remember, it's been over 15 years since I applied. I believe it was in their tape ops division, possibly on production, I can't even remember. All I know is, I probably would have ended up hating it, who knows. It's a tough job, either you're on the road constantly, or you're in Stamford, working in one of the highest cost towns in America working in a place that probably isn't known for being generous to it's workers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 1:07:20 GMT -5
This is one thing where Triple H getting so much influence is a good thing ironically enough. Triple H, as immature as his humor is and as tough as he was, is a guy that is very against hazing, bullying, or taking liberties in the ring. A lot of guys who have left WWE in recent years have said how Triple H encourages guys to be themselves and more people are showing their love for the business I don’t know Triple H even up to a few years ago still had the rep of being a bully & a dick especially when dealing with talent on the main roster he always had that rep as a wrestler and I guess old habits die hard cause you’d hear how much of a bullying dick he was on the main roster than he’d be a supportive father figure to the NXT talent like it was a case of jekyll and Hyde.The talent has gotten smarter about not talking about that stuff and putting over how great a guy he suddenly is when they really realized he was gonna take over the company but you still hear it.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Aug 10, 2018 1:26:56 GMT -5
It's probably why Brock has been so protected since his return, he comes across as the absolute opposite of a mark for the business
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Post by arrogantmodel on Aug 10, 2018 2:06:32 GMT -5
This is one thing where Triple H getting so much influence is a good thing ironically enough. Triple H, as immature as his humor is and as tough as he was, is a guy that is very against hazing, bullying, or taking liberties in the ring. A lot of guys who have left WWE in recent years have said how Triple H encourages guys to be themselves and more people are showing their love for the business That reminds me of a funny/alarming story from Ricardo Rodriguez's shoot interview. Apparently back when the Shield were debuting the vets actually frowned upon wrestlers using ice packs if they were just called up to the main roster (apparently Cena/Orton got pissed at Rollins for putting an ice pack on his neck and getting a massage after his table spot in the Shield debut because he didn't earn that right yet) If that's true, Cena and Orton can both go EAD. I'd love to see John confronted with that story on his next Today Show spot. Carny f*** can cover up what an asshole he is with all the Make A Wish he wants, he's a shitty coworker. I'm pretty sure it was Cena. If true, yeah...he's a f***ing asshole. Guys trying to heal up quickly, while supposed locker room leaders are calling them pussies or fags. That is totally absurd.
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Post by celticjobber on Aug 10, 2018 2:17:27 GMT -5
I can see Undertaker getting annoyed when some giant musclebound dude just out of the training center goes "OH MY GOD! THE UNDERTAKER" when he just wants to be called Mark and not have to roll his eyes into the back of his head when he's backstage. I think calling Undertaker by his real name would be a bigger faux pas than admitting that you were a huge fan. Most old school wrestlers prefer to be called by their gimmick names.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Aug 10, 2018 2:34:14 GMT -5
I am definitely not coming down on the side of the carnies here, but I also think there's a subset of "wrestling fans working for the WWE" who fit snugly into the category "very annoying wrestling fans working for the WWE."
Wrestling nerds are wrestlers now; it's just something we all gotta deal with. But I can imagine someone like Sasha Banks just literally never shutting up about wrestling.
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Post by Bungle on Aug 10, 2018 3:09:30 GMT -5
I understand. Some wrestlers are "so passionate" that look unprofessional.
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