TWERKIN' MAGGLE
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Aug 21, 2018 21:30:43 GMT -5
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gbo86
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Post by gbo86 on Aug 21, 2018 21:32:08 GMT -5
I just don't understand what that company is thinking. I know they're swimming in money and don't have to try, but since they don't have to try, why not just hand the fans what they want? They've proven they'll watch all kinds of garbage!
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Post by Doctor No on Aug 21, 2018 21:33:51 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan also.
It only happened for him because Punk sent everything into a MASSIVE tailspin.
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Perd
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Post by Perd on Aug 21, 2018 21:38:25 GMT -5
- Don’t trust whitey - If you catch it, see a doctor and get rid of it - Never get over naturally
Got it.
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Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2018 21:38:31 GMT -5
In fairness, when Zack got his chance he clearly wasn't ready
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Aug 21, 2018 21:39:18 GMT -5
It feels like it's reach for the brass ring but only if we have pre chosen you to reach for the brass ring
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Bub (BLM)
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 21, 2018 21:55:20 GMT -5
I just don't understand what that company is thinking. I know they're swimming in money and don't have to try, but since they don't have to try, why not just hand the fans what they want? They've proven they'll watch all kinds of garbage! Because the only fan who matters is Vince. That's it. Writers are concerned with entertaining him, not the audience. That's not on them. That's the culture Vince has created.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 21, 2018 21:59:14 GMT -5
Depends... Braun also got himself over (yeah they were pushing him but not at all the way that he got over.)
Cena's rapping was him getting himself over...
Daniel Bryan got himself over and won the world title and at least pushed to the WWE Title and beating John Cena because of it... even though then tehy had to be dragged kicking and screaming to play the obvious storyline they were building... but still...
the main factor seems to be... don't get yourself over if they already decided your slot in the company.
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Post by thetower52 on Aug 21, 2018 22:13:05 GMT -5
Depends... Braun also got himself over (yeah they were pushing him but not at all the way that he got over.) Cena's rapping was him getting himself over... Daniel Bryan got himself over and won the world title and at least pushed to the WWE Title and beating John Cena because of it... even though then tehy had to be dragged kicking and screaming to play the obvious storyline they were building... but still... the main factor seems to be... don't get yourself over if they already decided your slot in the company. but they have wasted brauns peak overhead already
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2018 22:14:29 GMT -5
Depends... Braun also got himself over ( yeah they were pushing him but not at all the way that he got over.) I mean is that really true tho?
We were hearing rumors when he was in the Wyatt family that they wanted him to go against Taker or Lesnar and this is when he was green as shit
Then they took the slow burn with him with his singles push
I don't think they ever really intended for him to get over a babyface the way he did tho
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2018 22:14:50 GMT -5
Depends... Braun also got himself over (yeah they were pushing him but not at all the way that he got over.) Cena's rapping was him getting himself over... Daniel Bryan got himself over and won the world title and at least pushed to the WWE Title and beating John Cena because of it... even though then tehy had to be dragged kicking and screaming to play the obvious storyline they were building... but still... the main factor seems to be... don't get yourself over if they already decided your slot in the company. but they have wasted brauns peak overhead already Not even
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Post by Dub H on Aug 21, 2018 22:18:36 GMT -5
Depends... Braun also got himself over (yeah they were pushing him but not at all the way that he got over.) Cena's rapping was him getting himself over... Daniel Bryan got himself over and won the world title and at least pushed to the WWE Title and beating John Cena because of it... even though then tehy had to be dragged kicking and screaming to play the obvious storyline they were building... but still... the main factor seems to be... don't get yourself over if they already decided your slot in the company. Cena was years ago in a time that get yourself over could apply.Also not sure he applies since John Cena was on the verge of being fired but absolutely right,WWE doesnt you to get more over than THEY decided you should be.
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Rican
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Post by Rican on Aug 21, 2018 22:26:51 GMT -5
I just don't understand what that company is thinking. I know they're swimming in money and don't have to try, but since they don't have to try, why not just hand the fans what they want? They've proven they'll watch all kinds of garbage! This always blows my mind. They’re so determined for WWE itself to be the main draw, and they have a good chunk of fans who will pretty much cheer whoever they tell them to so why not just go the path of least resistance?
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"Magic" Mark Hurr
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Aug 22, 2018 3:30:49 GMT -5
It's like trying to get into a relationship with someone who secretly underestimated your competence, but they are willing to see where it goes as long as you don't get too over. Because they feel they are the draw of the relationship.
I gotta stop watching wrestling.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Aug 22, 2018 3:49:12 GMT -5
Vince doesn't like good people.
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Post by spagett on Aug 22, 2018 3:54:19 GMT -5
It feels like it's reach for the brass ring but only if we have pre chosen you to reach for the brass ring Oh the brass ring stuff is completely bullshit and I feel like even the WWE are aware the fans know it's bullshit now. They don't really mention it anymore. It's a very sad situation where the WWE are just so huge and their business model is structured in such a way that they can book however the hell they want and it doesn't matter. This is where Vince Mcmahon has wanted to be since day 1. What the fans want is very low down on their list of priorities. The attitude era would have never happened if Vince wasn't desperate, Stone Cold coming through now would be kept heel and be doing nothing whilst Lex Luger would be the top guy that everybody hated.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 22, 2018 4:09:10 GMT -5
I love that a company whose shows are often rewritten on the day of the event for asinine reasons is so utterly inflexible when it comes to long term booking and listening to crowd reactions.
The brass ring is a lie, next year's main eventers' are already chosen, the year after that too, the only way plans will change is if someone succumbs to a major injury or does something incredibly stupid. If you don't get a major push on your debut from developmental, you're not getting the chance to reach for the brass ring, that's how it is, how Vince wants it to ne.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 22, 2018 4:12:34 GMT -5
Don't forget Bad News Barrett having his legs cut out from under him.
It's baffling really. Surely if someone got themselves over the smart thing to do is capitalize on it quickly.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Aug 22, 2018 4:24:24 GMT -5
It feels like it's reach for the brass ring but only if we have pre chosen you to reach for the brass ring Oh the brass ring stuff is completely bullshit and I feel like even the WWE are aware the fans know it's bullshit now. They don't really mention it anymore. It's a very sad situation where the WWE are just so huge and their business model is structured in such a way that they can book however the hell they want and it doesn't matter. This is where Vince Mcmahon has wanted to be since day 1. What the fans want is very low down on their list of priorities. The attitude era would have never happened if Vince wasn't desperate, Stone Cold coming through now would be kept heel and be doing nothing whilst Lex Luger would be the top guy that everybody hated. Yeah for sure, in 2001 they would still have smiling Blue Chipper Rocky Maivia
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Post by Feyrhausen on Aug 22, 2018 4:28:48 GMT -5
Depends... Braun also got himself over (yeah they were pushing him but not at all the way that he got over.) Cena's rapping was him getting himself over... Daniel Bryan got himself over and won the world title and at least pushed to the WWE Title and beating John Cena because of it... even though then tehy had to be dragged kicking and screaming to play the obvious storyline they were building... but still... the main factor seems to be... don't get yourself over if they already decided your slot in the company. Cena was years ago in a time that get yourself over could apply.Also not sure he applies since John Cena was on the verge of being fired :P but absolutely right,WWE doesnt you to get more over than THEY decided you should be. Cena was also someone they wanted to push. He was the package, they just pushed it wrong and he was going to be fired as a result. Then he found a hook they liked and it was off.
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