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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 20, 2019 5:12:25 GMT -5
Tye could move up precisely 0% in terms of the position on the card WWE put him and he'd still be better off in AEW because at least they would book him as the face jobber who the crowd likes and therefore any heel stomping all over him gets booed. That's a valuable spot for a utility guy and the fact the role is gone from WWE is absurd to me. Someone can be happy there if they come to terms with the idea. Nobody is happy just sitting around not being booked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 6:18:01 GMT -5
Tye could move up precisely 0% in terms of the position on the card WWE put him and he'd still be better off in AEW because at least they would book him as the face jobber who the crowd likes and therefore any heel stomping all over him gets booed. That's a valuable spot for a utility guy and the fact the role is gone from WWE is absurd to me. Someone can be happy there if they come to terms with the idea. Nobody is happy just sitting around not being booked. *cuts to the current U.V champion reading a hunting magazine*
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Post by Perfect Timing on Feb 20, 2019 6:22:05 GMT -5
I will miss his theme and gimmick.
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 20, 2019 6:24:13 GMT -5
Pretty sure he's AEW bound he's been retweeting a lot of things and he and Cody are pretty close If any good has come out of AEW, even this early into it, most definitely it would be that suddenly anyone unhappy with where they are in WWE apparently suddenly see an option. Feeling like you are spinning the tires is godawful, suddenly seeing a light at the end of the tunnel is a huge relief.
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Post by crowley1986 on Feb 20, 2019 7:38:27 GMT -5
He's been there something ridiculous like fifteen years, right? He got a gimmick that got over finally and he got a huge pop from 50,000 fans at the Rumble a couple years back, he's kind of lucky he was not used rather than misused if he does manage to leave. He was under contract from ‘06 to ‘09, and then again from September 2013 until whenever he gets released/his deal expires. and majority of thAt time he was in various developmental incarnations
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 7:45:40 GMT -5
Tye could move up precisely 10% in terms of the position on the card Fixed for numerical accuracy. .....I don't even watch anymore. Gadzooks. ;p
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 8:19:13 GMT -5
I never really saw anything special in him and as strange as it sounds, I don't mean that as a knock. He's a decent hand and we could use more guys like him in the lower card.
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Post by bitteroldman on Feb 20, 2019 8:31:04 GMT -5
In baseball, the highest level of minor league ball is AAA. Over the years, there have been players who excelled at the AAA (Triple A) level but failed at the major league level after being given several shots at playing in the major leages are referred to as AAAA (Quad A) players. Is Dillinger a quad A wrestler?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 8:49:56 GMT -5
Hopefully, the WWE releases him just for the sake of locker room morale. You don't want guys/gals who don't want to be there. This I agree with. I think if the E holds hostage on wrestlers and employees that don't want to be there, then a WCW situation will happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 8:56:59 GMT -5
Him and Cody Rhodes go way back. They’re best buds.
I just can’t believe WWE never capitalize on a wrestler when they’re red hot. Dillingers pop at the Rumble was amazing, how do they not run with that?
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Post by Instant Classic on Feb 20, 2019 9:07:12 GMT -5
Not a loss at all. His Mohawk is so stupid.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 20, 2019 9:11:30 GMT -5
In baseball, the highest level of minor league ball is AAA. Over the years, there have been players who excelled at the AAA (Triple A) level but failed at the major league level after being given several shots at playing in the major leages are referred to as AAAA (Quad A) players. Is Dillinger a quad A wrestler? Good way of putting it. Nothing against Tye, but he was re-hired to be a utility hand in NXT and just happened to stumble into a super over opening card gimmick. Dude was never going to be more then the “send him out first, pop the crowd” guy. Like a No Way Jose, someone you know is gonna get the crowd pumped and hopefully set the tone for the rest of the show. But those guys really aren’t that rare, and Tye didn’t really bring anything else to the table. I’m kind of on both sides of this, obviously I get why Tye wants to be used more but I can also get WWE not investing much time in him.
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Post by abjordans on Feb 20, 2019 9:18:42 GMT -5
Tye could move up precisely 0% in terms of the position on the card WWE put him and he'd still be better off in AEW because at least they would book him as the face jobber who the crowd likes and therefore any heel stomping all over him gets booed. That's a valuable spot for a utility guy and the fact the role is gone from WWE is absurd to me. Someone can be happy there if they come to terms with the idea. Nobody is happy just sitting around not being booked. How do we know how a company who hasn’t even had a show would book anyone? As far as this news go, if you ever see Dillinger wrestle live, especially in front of a smaller crowd, it becomes apparent he is really good at what I have come to call the “Florida indy style”. Where you are having a match but engaging the crowd and kind of talking to them the whole time, messing around with your opponent, etc. But, that doesn’t translate to being a big time tv star on a national stage.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 9:28:06 GMT -5
Get a haircut.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 20, 2019 9:43:43 GMT -5
Tye could move up precisely 0% in terms of the position on the card WWE put him and he'd still be better off in AEW because at least they would book him as the face jobber who the crowd likes and therefore any heel stomping all over him gets booed. That's a valuable spot for a utility guy and the fact the role is gone from WWE is absurd to me. Someone can be happy there if they come to terms with the idea. Nobody is happy just sitting around not being booked. How do we know how a company who hasn’t even had a show would book anyone? As far as this news go, if you ever see Dillinger wrestle live, especially in front of a smaller crowd, it becomes apparent he is really good at what I have come to call the “Florida indy style”. Where you are having a match but engaging the crowd and kind of talking to them the whole time, messing around with your opponent, etc. But, that doesn’t translate to being a big time tv star on a national stage. Because of two things. A) AEW has booked a show before and you could easily have slotted Tye into the same role Matt Cross had in the opener against MJF. That is the same fundamental "here is babyface vs. heel 101" style that a guy like Tye would be perfect for. 2) Until evidence to the contrary, there is no reason to believe this new company is signing people just to emphatically not use them for months at a time. That is not something a promotion does until they reach a point of bloated spite signing. Anyone signing this man to a contract is going to intend to use him in some capacity. I'm also not even saying "this is the exact way that they would book him", I'm saying that if he were to exist in the exact same role and capacity he was now, he would be better off somewhere else by sheer virtue of them using him at all in that same role. WWE has an over-inflated roster and the resources to keep people on ice and not working TV for five months straight. Nobody else has that benefit.
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Post by abjordans on Feb 20, 2019 9:50:25 GMT -5
How do we know how a company who hasn’t even had a show would book anyone? As far as this news go, if you ever see Dillinger wrestle live, especially in front of a smaller crowd, it becomes apparent he is really good at what I have come to call the “Florida indy style”. Where you are having a match but engaging the crowd and kind of talking to them the whole time, messing around with your opponent, etc. But, that doesn’t translate to being a big time tv star on a national stage. Because of two things. A) AEW has booked a show before and you could easily have slotted Tye into the same role Matt Cross had in the opener against MJF. That is the same fundamental "here is babyface vs. heel 101" style that a guy like Tye would be perfect for. 2) Until evidence to the contrary, there is no reason to believe this new company is signing people just to emphatically not use them for months at a time. That is not something a promotion does until they reach a point of bloated spite signing. Anyone signing this man to a contract is going to intend to use him in some capacity. I'm also not even saying "this is the exact way that they would book him", I'm saying that if he were to exist in the exact same role and capacity he was now, he would be better off somewhere else by sheer virtue of them using him at all in that same role. WWE has an over-inflated roster and the resources to keep people on ice and not working TV for five months straight. Nobody else has that benefit. I don’t think WWE is keeping Dillinger on ice to keep him away from other wrestling companies, and I don’t think Dillinger asked for his release to go be an opening match jobber for AEW. If he wants to test his luck, I applaud him, but I think he will find his ceiling isn’t much higher anywhere he goes. I kind of feel he might have been smart to stick it out with WWE, as he may have found himself a role in the PC eventually. By all accounts, he was working as a player/coach in NXTpreviously. I think he might be a guy who has a mind for the business and is able to teach more than he is a guy who can be an onscreen player himself. If you aren’t happy, you aren’t happy, so good for him.
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Post by BoomPeriod on Feb 20, 2019 9:52:28 GMT -5
His match with Roode was awesome. And his triple threat with AJ and whoever was awesome as well. Those matches showed to me that he is solid.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 20, 2019 9:54:23 GMT -5
Because of two things. A) AEW has booked a show before and you could easily have slotted Tye into the same role Matt Cross had in the opener against MJF. That is the same fundamental "here is babyface vs. heel 101" style that a guy like Tye would be perfect for. 2) Until evidence to the contrary, there is no reason to believe this new company is signing people just to emphatically not use them for months at a time. That is not something a promotion does until they reach a point of bloated spite signing. Anyone signing this man to a contract is going to intend to use him in some capacity. I'm also not even saying "this is the exact way that they would book him", I'm saying that if he were to exist in the exact same role and capacity he was now, he would be better off somewhere else by sheer virtue of them using him at all in that same role. WWE has an over-inflated roster and the resources to keep people on ice and not working TV for five months straight. Nobody else has that benefit. I don’t think WWE is keeping Dillinger on ice to keep him away from other wrestling companies, and I don’t think Dillinger asked for his release to go be an opening match jobber for AEW. If he wants to test his luck, I applaud him, but I think he will find his ceiling isn’t much higher anywhere he goes. I kind of feel he might have been smart to stick it out with WWE, as he may have found himself a role in the PC eventually. By all accounts, he was working as a player/coach in NXTpreviously. I think he might be a guy who has a mind for the business and is able to teach more than he is a guy who can be an onscreen player himself. If you aren’t happy, you aren’t happy, so good for him. I'm not really saying they're trying to keep him from AEW, I just mean that WWE has the means to just kind of keep people on without caring or doing anything to use them, and that factors have led to that increasing from the scattered handfuls from past years to scores of people nowadays. Whatever the reason they're not using him is, he's pidgeonholed in WWE to a role that simply does not exist in their current product, and that while I'm sure he would love to see higher than that role, he's also not even being used in that right now. I can see the man wanting to get away just so he can actually do the thing he's been chasing the dream of for so long, because nothing is more disillusioning than finally finding your place, getting over, being a big deal, and then getting shelved for no good reason and having everything stall out for no good reason. Dude can't even be happy just to be there because he isn't even there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 9:57:33 GMT -5
"Get a haircut, take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue!"
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Post by abjordans on Feb 20, 2019 9:58:51 GMT -5
I don’t think WWE is keeping Dillinger on ice to keep him away from other wrestling companies, and I don’t think Dillinger asked for his release to go be an opening match jobber for AEW. If he wants to test his luck, I applaud him, but I think he will find his ceiling isn’t much higher anywhere he goes. I kind of feel he might have been smart to stick it out with WWE, as he may have found himself a role in the PC eventually. By all accounts, he was working as a player/coach in NXTpreviously. I think he might be a guy who has a mind for the business and is able to teach more than he is a guy who can be an onscreen player himself. If you aren’t happy, you aren’t happy, so good for him. I'm not really saying they're trying to keep him from AEW, I just mean that WWE has the means to just kind of keep people on without caring or doing anything to use them, and that factors have led to that increasing from the scattered handfuls from past years to scores of people nowadays. Whatever the reason they're not using him is, he's pidgeonholed in WWE to a role that simply does not exist in their current product, and that while I'm sure he would love to see higher than that role, he's also not even being used in that right now. I can see the man wanting to get away just so he can actually do the thing he's been chasing the dream of for so long, because nothing is more disillusioning than finally finding your place, getting over, being a big deal, and then getting shelved for no good reason and having everything stall out for no good reason. Dude can't even be happy just to be there because he isn't even there. Didn’t he get hurt pretty much as soon as he showed up on the main roster? Seems like some bad luck hurt his momentum more than anything.
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