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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Apr 8, 2019 18:07:44 GMT -5
The protective order is weird, since it looks like he broke that in the other cases he is facing. I don't see him getting close to Bret again, but who knows?
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Apr 8, 2019 18:11:14 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 8, 2019 18:12:20 GMT -5
I hope they give that boy the maximum punishment they can give him
Even if it is only a day in jail, he needs to serve that shit
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Post by Casey Jones on Apr 8, 2019 18:13:10 GMT -5
“I just felt like it was the right moment,”
for what? what did you have planned Zachary?
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 8, 2019 18:16:33 GMT -5
Anyone saying he didn't have something planned, please read his twitter. It'a full of vague references to him being in the main event at Mania and a shit ton of other nonsense.
Seems he was planning something for Mania but "it just felt like the right moment" a day early when he seen a chance at the HOF and took it.
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Post by edgestar on Apr 8, 2019 18:17:26 GMT -5
Next year they’ll do the same setup but Brock will be the inductor for everyone, lol ...now, we kind of need Regis to be inducted. Brock talking about him, could be gold!
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 8, 2019 18:17:56 GMT -5
The more I hear about this guy, the more I think he intended to do some serious damage here - I'd be amazed if he didn't know how fragile Bret is these days, and how easily something physical could end very, very badly. Bret was the biggest name being inducted along with DX, so maybe he was just looking for maximum attention so targeted Bret but didn't intend him any actual harm, but I can't shake this feeling that he targeted Bret due to his fragility in order to do something truly evil and make his name famous forever more - Mark Chapman-like. He wouldn't have needed a weapon to do Bret some serious damage. If I was dealing with this matter, I'd seriously be considering if there are grounds for more serious charges related to exactly what his intention was in attacking a 61 year old world-famous man with a history of serve concussions, stroke and cancer during an internationally broadcast event. I don’t buy it. He had to know he was going to be stopped in a matter of seconds. He knew he only had so much time. He even says that he saw an opening and he took it. He got behind Bret, waist locked him and fell with him. If he was looking to seriously hurt him he would’ve went for his head. He also had tickets to Mania. He had to realize planning something like this would’ve made it impossible for him to attend the show. That’s a wasted expense. I don’t believe he planned it at all. I think that’s giving him way too much credit. I don’t think we’re dealing with an assassin or some criminal mastermind here. He’s a disturbed, violent dumbass. There have been plenty of idiots that have tried to get into a wrestling ring. Most never get the chance to make contact. There are too many eyes in different directions once they get there. They’re dealt with quickly. This guy managed it because no one expected it and the two people in the ring had their backs turned to him while giving a speech. The whole issue of tickets isn't something that means much anyway. People commit suicide with tickets to things or plans all the time. Mental illness doesn't work that way. He may have thought taking down Bret would get the attention of Vince, something that by his twitter account, he very clearly wants. He @s Triple H and Vince, pesters them, claims they're ignoring his messages. Hell, the buying of tickets may well have been a steady sequence of planned possibilities so he could find a chance to make his move, he saw it on Saturday and he took it. Whatever's going on in his head is completely removed from the reason you're trying to bring to this conversation, and therein lies exactly the nature of mental illness.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Apr 8, 2019 18:18:12 GMT -5
So why was he wearing the Rastafarian hat?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 18:34:25 GMT -5
This motherf***er right here needs some serious help. Hopefully he gets it, because if not he’s going to hurt or kill someone. Not hyperbole, dude seems to keep escalating.
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Post by JCBaggee on Apr 8, 2019 18:44:25 GMT -5
So why was he wearing the Rastafarian hat? Judging by his Twitter, it looks like he's got some kind of Joker gimmick thing going on.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 8, 2019 18:47:24 GMT -5
The more I hear about this guy, the more I think he intended to do some serious damage here - I'd be amazed if he didn't know how fragile Bret is these days, and how easily something physical could end very, very badly. Bret was the biggest name being inducted along with DX, so maybe he was just looking for maximum attention so targeted Bret but didn't intend him any actual harm, but I can't shake this feeling that he targeted Bret due to his fragility in order to do something truly evil and make his name famous forever more - Mark Chapman-like. He wouldn't have needed a weapon to do Bret some serious damage. If I was dealing with this matter, I'd seriously be considering if there are grounds for more serious charges related to exactly what his intention was in attacking a 61 year old world-famous man with a history of serve concussions, stroke and cancer during an internationally broadcast event. I don’t buy it. He had to know he was going to be stopped in a matter of seconds. He knew he only had so much time. He even says that he saw an opening and he took it. He got behind Bret, waist locked him and fell with him. If he was looking to seriously hurt him he would’ve went for his head. He also had tickets to Mania. He had to realize planning something like this would’ve made it impossible for him to attend the show. That’s a wasted expense. I don’t believe he planned it at all. I think that’s giving him way too much credit. I don’t think we’re dealing with an assassin or some criminal mastermind here. He’s a disturbed, violent dumbass. There have been plenty of idiots that have tried to get into a wrestling ring. Most never get the chance to make contact. There are too many eyes in different directions once they get there. They’re dealt with quickly. This guy managed it because no one expected it and the two people in the ring had their backs turned to him while giving a speech. Much of what you say sounds perfectly rational, but my issue is that we seem to be dealing with someone who isn’t rational at all. If he rated himself as some sort of MMA bad-ass, then it’s not exactly a stretch to think he might’ve been deluded enough to think he could strike some heavy blows before anyone could get to him. Maybe he thought if he could get Bret on the floor then he could get on top of him and strike blows down on him before anyone got to him, I don’t know. He couldn’t have foreseen that Nattie would grab Bret as tight as she did so he would have to drag them both down which took a crucial extra second or two, or maybe just how quick the wrestlers, Shane and Browne got in there to neutralise him. We don’t yet know enough about this, and about what happened before he got into the ring; until we do, I just can’t shake the feeling that he might’ve targeted Bret because of how fragile he is. He didn’t target Honky, or Jimmy Hart, or wait for Brutus, or even Torrie. He went for the one man who could’ve been very seriously injured very quickly indeed from not that much at all - as I say, I can’t shake the feeling there was more to that than just an opportunity opening for him at that time. But as I say, we don’t know enough right now - most likely it was as simple as you suggest, but I’m not ruling anything out until we know more.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 8, 2019 18:57:39 GMT -5
Anyone saying he didn't have something planned, please read his twitter. It'a full of vague references to him being in the main event at Mania and a shit ton of other nonsense. Seems he was planning something for Mania but "it just felt like the right moment" a day early when he seen a chance at the HOF and took it. Yea this was 100% planned for something to happen
Did it mean the HOF? No but he had a few days between multiple events and shows to do something stupid
The idiot tried it at the HOF and got his face plastered so thank god he didn't it somewhere else like an Axxess or even outside of Mania just stalking the scene
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 8, 2019 19:00:31 GMT -5
Also I'd like to add my name to those hoping he gets the help he needs with his obvious mental health issues - on that score I wish him nothing but the best, and I hope he never gets into a place again - physically or mentally - to hurt someone again.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 8, 2019 19:03:08 GMT -5
I don’t buy it. He had to know he was going to be stopped in a matter of seconds. He knew he only had so much time. He even says that he saw an opening and he took it. He got behind Bret, waist locked him and fell with him. If he was looking to seriously hurt him he would’ve went for his head. He also had tickets to Mania. He had to realize planning something like this would’ve made it impossible for him to attend the show. That’s a wasted expense. I don’t believe he planned it at all. I think that’s giving him way too much credit. I don’t think we’re dealing with an assassin or some criminal mastermind here. He’s a disturbed, violent dumbass. There have been plenty of idiots that have tried to get into a wrestling ring. Most never get the chance to make contact. There are too many eyes in different directions once they get there. They’re dealt with quickly. This guy managed it because no one expected it and the two people in the ring had their backs turned to him while giving a speech. Much of what you say sounds perfectly rational, but my issue is that we seem to be dealing with someone who isn’t rational at all. If he rated himself as some sort of MMA bad-ass, then it’s not exactly a stretch to think he might’ve been deluded enough to think he could strike some heavy blows before anyone could get to him. Maybe he thought if he could get Bret on the floor then he could get on top of him and strike blows down on him before anyone got to him, I don’t know. He couldn’t have foreseen that Nattie would grab Bret as tight as she did so he would have to drag them both down which took a crucial extra second or two, or maybe just how quick the wrestlers, Shane and Browne got in there to neutralise him. We don’t yet know enough about this, and about what happened before he got into the ring; until we do, I just can’t shake the feeling that he might’ve targeted Bret because of how fragile he is. He didn’t target Honky, or Jimmy Hart, or wait for Brutus, or even Torrie. He went for the one man who could’ve been very seriously injured very quickly indeed from not that much at all - as I say, I can’t shake the feeling there was more to that than just an opportunity opening for him at that time. But as I say, we don’t know enough right now - most likely it was as simple as you suggest, but I’m not ruling anything out until we know more. The MMA experience just backs up my point. He knows not to hit someone in the back of the head because it could kill them. If he was looking to seriously harm Bret he would’ve struck him in the back on the head. He might have gotten a few stomps in if he connected and managed to drop him. He didn’t go for a headlock either. He didn’t even go for a choke. He didn’t punch him in the head as I’ve seen as least two news sources report. He didn’t make a move for his head at all. Now I will 100% believe this kid is delusional. Maybe he wanted to go home and tell his little MMA buddies that he got to wrestle Bret Hart. Just maybe this kid is so mental that he thought Bret would tell him “Good job kid!” for taking him down and they’d be friends. You could sell me on that. His twitter is looney tunes. That he was actually out to hurt Bret when he’s such a big fan of WWE and it looked like he was trying to wrestle him doesn’t hold up. Actions speak louder than words. Delusional mark with a history of anger issues? Sure. Calculated assassin? Nah.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Apr 8, 2019 19:16:52 GMT -5
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Post by Paul on Apr 8, 2019 19:39:46 GMT -5
Anyone saying he didn't have something planned, please read his twitter. It'a full of vague references to him being in the main event at Mania and a shit ton of other nonsense. Seems he was planning something for Mania but "it just felt like the right moment" a day early when he seen a chance at the HOF and took it. I wonder if he thought he was "a part of the show" and that by attacking Bret he'd be able to then go on to WrestleMania to do a run-in there? Yes, to you and I that sounds crazy, but... I guess I shouldn't even try to rationalize what his thought process might have been because he probably didn't have much of a thought process and was just being impulsive.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Apr 8, 2019 20:09:31 GMT -5
Anyone saying he didn't have something planned, please read his twitter. It'a full of vague references to him being in the main event at Mania and a shit ton of other nonsense. Seems he was planning something for Mania but "it just felt like the right moment" a day early when he seen a chance at the HOF and took it. I wonder if he thought he was "a part of the show" and that by attacking Bret he'd be able to then go on to WrestleMania to do a run-in there? Yes, to you and I that sounds crazy, but... I guess I shouldn't even try to rationalize what his thought process might have been because he probably didn't have much of a thought process and was just being impulsive. He could have some form of autism that causes him to do impulsive actions like assaulting someone like Bret. My daughter (who’s on the lower autism spectrum) has impulsive actions as well ranging from not being able to control her emotions to stealing items that she likes (that belong to her classmates) at school. Once we get to see this unravel, the assailant’s actions may start to make more sense
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 8, 2019 20:27:01 GMT -5
Much of what you say sounds perfectly rational, but my issue is that we seem to be dealing with someone who isn’t rational at all. If he rated himself as some sort of MMA bad-ass, then it’s not exactly a stretch to think he might’ve been deluded enough to think he could strike some heavy blows before anyone could get to him. Maybe he thought if he could get Bret on the floor then he could get on top of him and strike blows down on him before anyone got to him, I don’t know. He couldn’t have foreseen that Nattie would grab Bret as tight as she did so he would have to drag them both down which took a crucial extra second or two, or maybe just how quick the wrestlers, Shane and Browne got in there to neutralise him. We don’t yet know enough about this, and about what happened before he got into the ring; until we do, I just can’t shake the feeling that he might’ve targeted Bret because of how fragile he is. He didn’t target Honky, or Jimmy Hart, or wait for Brutus, or even Torrie. He went for the one man who could’ve been very seriously injured very quickly indeed from not that much at all - as I say, I can’t shake the feeling there was more to that than just an opportunity opening for him at that time. But as I say, we don’t know enough right now - most likely it was as simple as you suggest, but I’m not ruling anything out until we know more. The MMA experience just backs up my point. He knows not to hit someone in the back of the head because it could kill them. If he was looking to seriously harm Bret he would’ve struck him in the back on the head. He might have gotten a few stomps in if he connected and managed to drop him. He didn’t go for a headlock either. He didn’t even go for a choke. He didn’t punch him in the head as I’ve seen as least two news sources report. He didn’t make a move for his head at all. Now I will 100% believe this kid is delusional. Maybe he wanted to go home and tell his little MMA buddies that he got to wrestle Bret Hart. Just maybe this kid is so mental that he thought Bret would tell him “Good job kid!” for taking him down and they’d be friends. You could sell me on that. His twitter is looney tunes. That he was actually out to hurt Bret when he’s such a big fan of WWE and it looked like he was trying to wrestle him doesn’t hold up. Actions speak louder than words. Delusional mark with a history of anger issues? Sure. Calculated assassin? Nah. As I say, we don’t know enough to be able to guess his intentions; you’re probably right that whatever he was thinking didn’t stretch far enough to actually harm Bret, but again I just can’t shake this feeling that Bret was targeted because of how vulnerable he is to injury.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 8, 2019 20:40:10 GMT -5
The MMA experience just backs up my point. He knows not to hit someone in the back of the head because it could kill them. If he was looking to seriously harm Bret he would’ve struck him in the back on the head. He might have gotten a few stomps in if he connected and managed to drop him. He didn’t go for a headlock either. He didn’t even go for a choke. He didn’t punch him in the head as I’ve seen as least two news sources report. He didn’t make a move for his head at all. Now I will 100% believe this kid is delusional. Maybe he wanted to go home and tell his little MMA buddies that he got to wrestle Bret Hart. Just maybe this kid is so mental that he thought Bret would tell him “Good job kid!” for taking him down and they’d be friends. You could sell me on that. His twitter is looney tunes. That he was actually out to hurt Bret when he’s such a big fan of WWE and it looked like he was trying to wrestle him doesn’t hold up. Actions speak louder than words. Delusional mark with a history of anger issues? Sure. Calculated assassin? Nah. As I say, we don’t know enough to be able to guess his intentions; you’re probably right that whatever he was thinking didn’t stretch far enough to actually harm Bret, but again I just can’t shake this feeling that Bret was targeted because of how vulnerable he is to injury. I think the kid would’ve taken just about any opening he could’ve gotten. I didn’t see anything in his twitter to suggest that he targeted Bret. I’ve seen the news sensationalize this story saying Bret was punched. I can’t sensationalize the idea that this kid made this trip to Mania to purposely harm Bret. I’d rather point out the facts that we do know. He saw an opening, he hit the ring, he waist locked Bret and fell. A dozen people instantly hit the ring. He knew he only had so much time to act. He basically attempted to wrestle Bret in that very limited time. That might even be all there is to the story as far as his true intentions go.
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Post by Paul on Apr 8, 2019 20:44:53 GMT -5
He went after Bret Hart who was the most vulnerable former wrestler there (or at least certainly one of them). That can't be a coincidence, can it?
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