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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 23:01:38 GMT -5
There was nothing wrong with the moonsault. Infact it looked awesome.
Shane literally busted Miz open with a punch tonight... but let’s go clutching for straws cause Lacey’s moonsault wasn’t 100% on point.
I think some people forget that this is a contact business. I can almost guarantee you that Natalya wasn’t pissed about that moonsault. Just like Miz wasn’t pissed he got busted open. So why should we care?
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Post by sportatorium on Apr 15, 2019 23:02:22 GMT -5
The problem is that she’s being booked at the top of the card. You can’t nearly break someone’s ribs & be accepted as a potential champion. I get it, they want to give her a push, but if she can’t be trusted in the ring, her look isn’t important.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 15, 2019 23:02:36 GMT -5
There was nothing wrong with the moonsault. Infact it looked awesome. Shane literally busted Miz open with a punch tonight... but let’s go clutching for straws cause Lacey’s moonsault wasn’t 100% on point. Lacey only had two main roster matches,she botched both.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 15, 2019 23:03:06 GMT -5
She’s REALLY bad and desperately needs another year or two in NXT but Vince heard blonde and ex-military and here we are. I really question what's even the point of Takeovers if apparently no one is bothering to use them as any sort of metric for working big matches in front of a live crowd. Why not have her face, I dunno, Kairi or something on one to see if she's worth anything before going, "Oh, we're going to feature her every week both shows during Mania season."? On the flip side you have your Braun Strowman, Alexa Bliss and Elias types who don't work many or any takeovers and came out fine but yeah Lacey clearly needed another in NXT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 23:04:50 GMT -5
There was nothing wrong with the moonsault. Infact it looked awesome. Shane literally busted Miz open with a punch tonight... but let’s go clutching for straws cause Lacey’s moonsault wasn’t 100% on point. Lacey only had two main roster matches,she botched both. The Rumble performance wasn’t great but these “botches” tonight weren’t even noticeable. No regular fan is gonna notice she got Natalya with the knees, only eagle eyed nitpicking fans... casual watchers probably even think it looked better.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 15, 2019 23:04:52 GMT -5
I really question what's even the point of Takeovers if apparently no one is bothering to use them as any sort of metric for working big matches in front of a live crowd. Why not have her face, I dunno, Kairi or something on one to see if she's worth anything before going, "Oh, we're going to feature her every week both shows during Mania season."? On the flip side you have your Braun Strowman, Alexa Bliss and Elias types who don't work many or any takeovers and came out fine but yeah Lacey clearly needed another in NXT Braun was really green tho,he worked a lot in tag and enforcer role before getting better. I dont believe there should be a minimum time,but you should really avaliate how green someone is before calling
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Post by Dub H on Apr 15, 2019 23:05:39 GMT -5
Lacey only had two main roster matches,she botched both. The Rumble performance wasn’t great but these “botches” tonight weren’t even noticeable. No regular fan is gonna notice she got Natalya with the knees, only eagle eyed nitpicking fans... casual watchers probably even think it looked better. The issue tonight isnt the fans noticing. Its Natalya's ribs noticing
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Post by Perd on Apr 15, 2019 23:06:40 GMT -5
She did allow me to use the word handjobs, in the Raw thread. And that’s just a funny word.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 15, 2019 23:07:26 GMT -5
On the flip side you have your Braun Strowman, Alexa Bliss and Elias types who don't work many or any takeovers and came out fine but yeah Lacey clearly needed another in NXT Braun was really green tho,he worked a lot in tag and enforcer role before getting better. I dont believe there should be a minimum time,but you should really avaliate how green someone is before calling Braun was green as shit his first year and they smartly put him in an enforcer role and then put him in squash matches for a long time until they felt he was ready
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Post by denna5 on Apr 15, 2019 23:07:49 GMT -5
There was nothing wrong with the moonsault. Infact it looked awesome. Shane literally busted Miz open with a punch tonight... but let’s go clutching for straws cause Lacey’s moonsault wasn’t 100% on point. I think some people forget that this is a contact business. I can almost guarantee you that Natalya wasn’t pissed about that moonsault. Just like Miz wasn’t pissed he got busted open. So why should we care? I think people are just worried about her hurting someone or herself. The thing with the moonsalt is that it does look like her knees went straight into Natty's ribs and if there was enough force, that could be cracked or broken ribs which are not fun at all for anyone. Yes it is a contact sport and things happen but you still want to try to be as safe as possible and I think there has been a pattern of people being rushed forward too soon when they don't know how to be their safest yet and I don't want to see anything too bad happen.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 23:07:59 GMT -5
She did allow me to use the word handjobs, in the Raw thread. And that’s just a funny word. Actually on that subject, yeesh, way to show the progress the division's made in main-eventing Mania by barely over a week later implying a woman's sleeping with the McMahons to get ahead.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 23:09:45 GMT -5
The Rumble performance wasn’t great but these “botches” tonight weren’t even noticeable. No regular fan is gonna notice she got Natalya with the knees, only eagle eyed nitpicking fans... casual watchers probably even think it looked better. The issue tonight isnt the fans noticing. Its Natalya's ribs noticing But that’s for Natalya to worry about.
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Post by Sicho100 on Apr 15, 2019 23:09:54 GMT -5
There was nothing wrong with the moonsault. Infact it looked awesome. Shane literally busted Miz open with a punch tonight... but let’s go clutching for straws cause Lacey’s moonsault wasn’t 100% on point. I think some people forget that this is a contact business. I can almost guarantee you that Natalya wasn’t pissed about that moonsault. Just like Miz wasn’t pissed he got busted open. So why should we care? Uh, you aren't supposed to knee someone on a moonsault. You can say, "Look, shit happens and even the best wrestlers f*** up sometimes," which would be true - hell, Io Shirai is often viewed as the best women's wrestler in the world, and she f***ed up her moonsault in approximately every match she was in in the Mae Young Classic. But to say that "[t]here was nothing wrong with the moonsault" is...factually inaccurate.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 15, 2019 23:10:43 GMT -5
There was nothing wrong with the moonsault. Infact it looked awesome. Shane literally busted Miz open with a punch tonight... but let’s go clutching for straws cause Lacey’s moonsault wasn’t 100% on point. I think some people forget that this is a contact business. I can almost guarantee you that Natalya wasn’t pissed about that moonsault. Just like Miz wasn’t pissed he got busted open. So why should we care? I think people are just worried about her hurting someone or herself. The thing with the moonsalt is that it does look like her knees went straight into Natty's ribs and if there was enough force, that could be cracked or broken ribs which are not fun at all for anyone. Yes it is a contact sport and things happen but you still want to try to be as safe as possible and I think there has been a pattern of people being rushed forward too soon when they don't know how to be their safest yet and I don't want to see anything too bad happen. Plus they are having injuries left and right,one would think you would want to be extra safe right now.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 15, 2019 23:15:15 GMT -5
Vince is a fool. They built a women's tag team division. A good use of green wrestlers is to put the with a vet in a tag team.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 15, 2019 23:31:25 GMT -5
I just finished her match...... I didn’t think it was that bad. I thought the match was a bit stiff at times. It might be a little too fast for Lacey, but I guess we will see if she sinks or swims right out of the gate.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 15, 2019 23:48:56 GMT -5
She did allow me to use the word handjobs, in the Raw thread. And that’s just a funny word. Actually on that subject, yeesh, way to show the progress the division's made in main-eventing Mania by barely over a week later implying a woman's sleeping with the McMahons to get ahead. This was the biggest issue for me, she's already got a heel enough gimmick without needing to add 'sleeps her way to the top' in there for good measure. I thought the match was fine, but its going to be a bigger test when she's against a less solid hand than Nattie.
And Becky might not be the best star for an up-and-comer to face because of her twitter attack-attack-attack style not really giving much space to get over. It works great against established stars and people smarks already hate, but the combination of it and her super-strong booking (as proven again tonight by her ease beating up the Riotts) isn't ideal for her helping out other workers.
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Post by BigAl on Apr 15, 2019 23:50:34 GMT -5
The issue tonight isnt the fans noticing. Its Natalya's ribs noticing But that’s for Natalya to worry about. So it's okay for a wrestler to injure another wrestler as long as it's a wrestler that you like so you forgive them for doing that?
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Post by bearned on Apr 15, 2019 23:53:00 GMT -5
She is not very good but at best she’s just a warm body for Becky to go through after mania whilst they work out who her next big feud is with. So as long as this is over relatively quickly I’m fine with it.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 15, 2019 23:56:05 GMT -5
There was nothing wrong with the moonsault. Infact it looked awesome. Shane literally busted Miz open with a punch tonight... but let’s go clutching for straws cause Lacey’s moonsault wasn’t 100% on point. Wait are you seriously trying to claim everyone's just being unfair to Lacey and out to get her by offering up the counterpoint of Shane McMahon's punches, which have been several assorted kinds of absolute jokes for a decade?
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