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Post by Jiren on Aug 9, 2019 0:42:15 GMT -5
Queen-Hot Space. You could argue this one, but Queen were never that big in the states after this album until Freddie's death in 1991. No argument here, Aside from "Under Pressure" it's not very good. Even Queen themselves hated it
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 9, 2019 1:09:39 GMT -5
I'm tempted to say KISS's Dynasty would be a contender, but I think that might be more on the tour for being a failure. In any case, it was more successful than Unmasked, I think, but the schism between the rest of the band and Peter Criss began here, crystallizing in Unmasked.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 9, 2019 5:52:48 GMT -5
I would give Chinese Democracy a go. But there is sooo much info out there for it. And even more now that in a storage locker someone found 22 discs of unreleased GnR material from the Chinese Democracy recording sessions where out of 275 songs across the discs..only 15 songs have vocals. I'm not even sure you could call Chinese Democracy the Trainwreckord album for GNR... since well... the members of the band people associate with Guns and Roses were long gone by the time of it's release... I’d put the Spaghetti Incident if anything.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 9, 2019 6:44:57 GMT -5
I'm not even sure you could call Chinese Democracy the Trainwreckord album for GNR... since well... the members of the band people associate with Guns and Roses were long gone by the time of it's release... I’d put the Spaghetti Incident if anything. That was a cover album. Is that really fair?
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Post by Vampiro138 on Aug 9, 2019 19:27:47 GMT -5
I would give Chinese Democracy a go. But there is sooo much info out there for it. And even more now that in a storage locker someone found 22 discs of unreleased GnR material from the Chinese Democracy recording sessions where out of 275 songs across the discs..only 15 songs have vocals. I'm not even sure you could call Chinese Democracy the Trainwreckord album for GNR... since well... the members of the band people associate with Guns and Roses were long gone by the time of it's release... but at the same time, Dizzy and Axl were still there from the Illusions records, and Chinese has several songs cowritten by Paul Tobias who cowrote a small amount of songs on Illusions and AFD. Plus you could also mention that despite him leaving 5 years prior, Buckethead was still the main lead on the entire album. and can also mention that right after that album was released long time guitarist Robin Finck left the band for good. I also would really enjoy a look at the 2 Beach Boys records that didnt have Brian Wilson involved that arent even in print anymore, I know that kokomo was a big hit for them, but honestly a few of these Trainwreckords have involved albums that actually did have some big hits on them.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 9, 2019 19:48:39 GMT -5
I'm not even sure you could call Chinese Democracy the Trainwreckord album for GNR... since well... the members of the band people associate with Guns and Roses were long gone by the time of it's release... but at the same time, Dizzy and Axl were still there from the Illusions records, and Chinese has several songs cowritten by Paul Tobias who cowrote a small amount of songs on Illusions and AFD. Plus you could also mention that despite him leaving 5 years prior, Buckethead was still the main lead on the entire album. and can also mention that right after that album was released long time guitarist Robin Finck left the band for good. I also would really enjoy a look at the 2 Beach Boys records that didnt have Brian Wilson involved that arent even in print anymore, I know that kokomo was a big hit for them, but honestly a few of these Trainwreckords have involved albums that actually did have some big hits on them. All Brian May’s shit got cut from Chinese, right?
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Post by Vampiro138 on Aug 9, 2019 19:51:14 GMT -5
but at the same time, Dizzy and Axl were still there from the Illusions records, and Chinese has several songs cowritten by Paul Tobias who cowrote a small amount of songs on Illusions and AFD. Plus you could also mention that despite him leaving 5 years prior, Buckethead was still the main lead on the entire album. and can also mention that right after that album was released long time guitarist Robin Finck left the band for good. I also would really enjoy a look at the 2 Beach Boys records that didnt have Brian Wilson involved that arent even in print anymore, I know that kokomo was a big hit for them, but honestly a few of these Trainwreckords have involved albums that actually did have some big hits on them. All Brian May’s shit got cut from Chinese, right? yeah, its why I cherish that 99 demo of Catcher In The Rye just because Brian had such a beautiful solo on that song!
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 9, 2019 20:04:45 GMT -5
I’ve been listening to A lot of AC/DC today. It made me think, do they have any albums that would qualify?
I haven’t really bothered with the last two albums, but they seem to have done pretty well. I remember when Stiff Upper Lip came out in 2000 it even got a tiny bit of attention from MTV and maybe even a video played at like 3:00 AM.
Apparently despite another member dying recently and others having health problems they’re recording another album!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 10, 2019 2:06:15 GMT -5
I’ve been listening to A lot of AC/DC today. It made me think, do they have any albums that would qualify? I haven’t really bothered with the last two albums, but they seem to have done pretty well. I remember when Stiff Upper Lip came out in 2000 it even got a tiny bit of attention from MTV and maybe even a video played at like 3:00 AM. Apparently despite another member dying recently and others having health problems they’re recording another album! I wouldn't think so... since well as Angus Young once put it... "I'm sick to death of people saying we've made 11 albums that sounds exactly the same, Infact, we've made 12 albums that sound exactly the same." They never really had a massive departure from their sound, they never had any massive in fighting that I am aware of, they've just kinda chugged along doing their own thing.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 10, 2019 2:26:51 GMT -5
I’ve been listening to A lot of AC/DC today. It made me think, do they have any albums that would qualify? I haven’t really bothered with the last two albums, but they seem to have done pretty well. I remember when Stiff Upper Lip came out in 2000 it even got a tiny bit of attention from MTV and maybe even a video played at like 3:00 AM. Apparently despite another member dying recently and others having health problems they’re recording another album! I wouldn't think so... since well as Angus Young once put it... "I'm sick to death of people saying we've made 11 albums that sounds exactly the same, Infact, we've made 12 albums that sound exactly the same." They never really had a massive departure from their sound, they never had any massive in fighting that I am aware of, they've just kinda chugged along doing their own thing. AC/DC had a low period in the early-to-mid 80s, but nothing disastrous or career-threatening, really. In-fighting included Phil Rudd getting kicked out of the band after getting into an actual fight with Malcolm. Phil's drug problems were spiraling at that point. While it might not be seen necessarily as in-fighting, the band's treatment of Johnson over the years leaves something to be desired.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 10, 2019 3:26:41 GMT -5
Queen-Hot Space. You could argue this one, but Queen were never that big in the states after this album until Freddie's death in 1991. Which is unfortunate, because a lot of my favourite stuff of theirs come from the last few albums of Mercury’s lifetime (A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle and Innuendo).
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Aug 10, 2019 4:38:47 GMT -5
Honestly I was just thinking that Splinter by Offspring would be a possible subject. Conspiracy of One wasn't a great album but it was successful but Splinter was mediocre and unsuccessful. They just kept on being mediocre since then although that was only two albums.
edit: I was also gonna suggest Rocksteady by No Doubt but apparently that was fairly positively received and did good numbers. I remember really not liking it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 5:03:53 GMT -5
Honestly I was just thinking that Splinter by Offspring would be a possible subject. Conspiracy of One wasn't a great album but it was successful but Splinter was mediocre and unsuccessful. They just kept on being mediocre since then although that was only two albums. I dunno if they'd count really given both of their albums after it were more successful than it was and You're Gonna Go Far Kid is one of their biggest hits.
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Post by burdette25159 on Aug 11, 2019 10:09:57 GMT -5
Shocked noone has mentioned this yet (I think): Slammin' Wrestling Hits, a album of knock-off/cover versions of wrestling entrance themes, that album put Simitar Entertainment OUT OF BUSINESS
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 11, 2019 13:12:32 GMT -5
Also out of his wheelhouse but Cryptopsy's "The Unspoken King" was some serious bollocks.
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Post by ANuclearError on Aug 11, 2019 13:52:52 GMT -5
Queen-Hot Space. You could argue this one, but Queen were never that big in the states after this album until Freddie's death in 1991. I still don't know how "Under Pressure" wound up being a big hit on the classic rock stations during that time since it barely made a blip on the charts when it came out. Under Pressure came about about 5 months before the album did, so it wouldn't have had the "stigma" that Hot Space had about the album's influences.
Plus it's a collaboration with Bowie and a damn good song as well, which wouldn't have hurt.
"No Talking, Just Head" by The Heads would be a good option. About 6 years after the breakup of Talking Heads, Tine Weymouth, Chris Franz and Jerry Harrison reunite without lead David Byrne, producing an album thatwas pretty negatively reviewed, which combined with the marketing behind the album/band name, just paints a sad picture overall.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 13:53:28 GMT -5
Shocked noone has mentioned this yet (I think): Slammin' Wrestling Hits, a album of knock-off/cover versions of wrestling entrance themes, that album put Simitar Entertainment OUT OF BUSINESS I dunno if it'd really fit in Todd's wheelhouse, though Phelous has a video where he talks about it briefly.
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Post by Spider2024 on Aug 11, 2019 14:02:39 GMT -5
Honestly I was just thinking that Splinter by Offspring would be a possible subject. Conspiracy of One wasn't a great album but it was successful but Splinter was mediocre and unsuccessful. They just kept on being mediocre since then although that was only two albums. I was thinking Splinter too. After the success of "Pretty Fly For A White Guy", Offspring recorded and released a handful of 'silly' songs of that song's ilk for their Americana & Conspiracy Of One albums. Those 'silly' songs were still well received mostly. Then for Splinter, they seemed to crank their silliness to full-on 10, and I think that's at least one reason why the vast majority of that album fell flat and just flat out did not work in the songs' final product. Since then they haven't really done any silly songs at all, so I guess Splinter got all that out of their system.
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Post by wildojinx on Aug 11, 2019 14:08:23 GMT -5
Speaking of pop punk, though it may be too long for a single video, how about the Green Day Uno, Dos, Tre trilogy? From what I've heard, they werent very popular either sales-wise or with the fanbase. The only song that even went close to anywhere IIRC was Oh Love which sounded more like a really weak Weezer song (and I LIKE Weezer) IMO.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 11, 2019 14:16:08 GMT -5
Also out of his wheelhouse but Cryptopsy's "The Unspoken King" was some serious bollocks. Man, everyone said this but I still like that album. Listen to “Worship Your Demons” and tell me that doesn’t slap!
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