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Post by Cyno on Sept 15, 2019 23:19:43 GMT -5
All we have is dirtsheet reporting about Sasha throwing a fit. For all we know, there was no "bad behavior" to punish and she just took a sabbatical after Mania.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 23:22:52 GMT -5
All we have is dirtsheet reporting about Sasha throwing a fit. For all we know, there was no "bad behavior" to punish and she just took a sabbatical after Mania. Yea, we will never know the full story on that If anything it falls somewhere in the middle but at the end of the day she got a long vacation and for someone as injury prone as her she needed the refresher
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Post by theironyuppie on Sept 15, 2019 23:38:36 GMT -5
And you're right, but to this day you see smarks arguing for it as proof that Becky isn't really pushed that strong.
My post from back in Feb and it still rings true today. People bought into the narrative that Becky would lose to the golden children because that was her arc and it worked despite Becky basically shitting on both of them the whole build. She has been pushed very strong, as strong as Charlotte was at her top height Yea, the one thing that has saved Becky is the fact she did just take a recent L to Asuka very clean which was obviously the right call because she was leaving SD However, Becky has been getting the better of wrestling and legends since the summer. Charlotte has been her bitch for months. I brought this up before that it would not surprise me if fans turned against Becky if this continued 6 more months because she one ups every one on the mic, has the one clean L at the rumble over these few months and just in general just looks above the competition. Charlotte brings presence who despite being Becky's bitch for a few months still has people scared she can win the match.
This is the typical stacking the odds against the babyface (who was just the heel). Authority is after her, her rival is always down her neck, and she's got a tough test against the only woman who has been killing like her the last 6 months. Thankfully, they are doing more to humanize her than they did with Braun
I’d say in the last 16 months she’s been booked stronger than Charlotte ever was. Sure Charlotte had the PPV streak in 2015-17, but she lost plenty of TV matches in that time and cheated in a lot of the PPV ones. (As well as tapping clean in the tag match at Battleground 2016.)
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 16, 2019 0:07:49 GMT -5
The reason they did the 50/50 booking tonight the way they did is because, as people have said, she has no other challengers. They have to drag this out because once it's done, the division is dry as a bone.
There's the old argument on if babyface or heel champions work better. My answer has always been "both can work if they're feuding with people we give a crap about."
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 16, 2019 0:10:14 GMT -5
The reason they did the 50/50 booking tonight the way they did is because, as people have said, she has no other challengers. They have to drag this out because once it's done, the division is dry as a bone. There's the old argument on if babyface or heel champions work better. My answer has always been "both can work if they're feuding with people we give a crap about." That reasoning falls flat in kayfabe when technically there is supposed to be no more rematches
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 16, 2019 0:16:30 GMT -5
The reason they did the 50/50 booking tonight the way they did is because, as people have said, she has no other challengers. They have to drag this out because once it's done, the division is dry as a bone. There's the old argument on if babyface or heel champions work better. My answer has always been "both can work if they're feuding with people we give a crap about." That reasoning falls flat in kayfabe when technically there is supposed to be no more rematches Sure but, they don't ever follow any of their kayfabe logic.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 16, 2019 0:25:59 GMT -5
All we have is dirtsheet reporting about Sasha throwing a fit. For all we know, there was no "bad behavior" to punish and she just took a sabbatical after Mania. Well, I know you can't trust their own docs for 100% accuracy, but the new one they did for Sasha makes it pretty obvious that she was going through severe depression and anxiety which would line up with a lot of folks saying she had "behavioral issues". I could easily see a bunch of alpha male seniors thinking she was "soft" and had a "bad attitude". I dealt with it a lot myself when I was younger. For the record, she denied that laying on the ground crying stuff. Said she was in the stands watching the rest of the show with Bayley during the time frame she was supposedly throwing a fit. I'm only inclined to take that as gospel because she was incredibly transparent about her mental health, which is something a lot scarier to open up about than throwing a backstage fit.
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Post by BatPunk on Sept 16, 2019 0:36:18 GMT -5
The reason they did the 50/50 booking tonight the way they did is because, as people have said, she has no other challengers. They have to drag this out because once it's done, the division is dry as a bone. All the more reason to put the belt on Sasha. Having a new champ and having Becky chase it would freshen things up at the very least.
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Post by theironyuppie on Sept 16, 2019 0:39:30 GMT -5
The reason they did the 50/50 booking tonight the way they did is because, as people have said, she has no other challengers. They have to drag this out because once it's done, the division is dry as a bone. All the more reason to put the belt on Sasha. Having a new champ and having Becky chase it would freshen things up at the very least. At the same time, all Fox advertising of late is suggesting she’s SDL-bound.
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Post by eJm on Sept 16, 2019 0:48:48 GMT -5
All the more reason to put the belt on Sasha. Having a new champ and having Becky chase it would freshen things up at the very least. At the same time, all Fox advertising of late is suggesting she’s SDL-bound. FOX is suggesting she’s SD bound. That doesn’t mean it’ll actually happen, just that FOX is going to not-so-subtly say that they want her on the show.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 1:32:36 GMT -5
I think my main issue with WWE, right now, is that I don’t really like anybody. Maybe Bliss Cross? And this current version of Becky definitely isn’t an exception. Call it “too OP” or whatever, but she’s lost too much of what made me a fan in the first place. Yeah I just saw she posted on Instagram like "Sasha fans are like her and now they're crying too" or whatever and it's like I don't wanna cheer that lol. There really isn't anyone likable right now and that's a problem. Also because I don't see a thread about Becky hitting that ref here's a visualization of the ferocity of that chair shot: My god. She needs to be fined for being so unsafe.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Sept 16, 2019 4:28:51 GMT -5
My post from back in Feb and it still rings true today. People bought into the narrative that Becky would lose to the golden children because that was her arc and it worked despite Becky basically shitting on both of them the whole build. She has been pushed very strong, as strong as Charlotte was at her top height I’d say in the last 16 months she’s been booked stronger than Charlotte ever was. Sure Charlotte had the PPV streak in 2015-17, but she lost plenty of TV matches in that time and cheated in a lot of the PPV ones. (As well as tapping clean in the tag match at Battleground 2016.) It's really no contest. Charlotte has always been pushed strong but never been booked super strong in that she's never been super protected or anything like that. She's won the title a ton and is always in the title picture but she's eaten a decent amount of pins on TV, usually to set up PPV title matches where she wins to kind of negate those losses. Same thing with Alexa. I think Becky during this run (June 2018-present) might be the kayfabe strongest women wrestler in company history. Just three pinfall/submission losses (with one via interference after she had already wrestled another match) during a year and a half span. That's insanely strong booking especially in the 50/50 era. Ronda and undefeated streak Asuka are the only two you could say that were booked stronger.
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Post by Moppy on Sept 16, 2019 8:01:10 GMT -5
I think this is the biggest reason why the goofy finish last night pissed me off. A clean Sasha victory could have done wonders for both women.
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Post by Shy Guy on Sept 16, 2019 8:21:15 GMT -5
Wait, what does OP mean
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 16, 2019 8:22:38 GMT -5
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Sept 16, 2019 8:23:07 GMT -5
I don't really know, I take it as meaning overpushed, but I could be totally wrong EDIT - and I was wrong
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Post by Dub H on Sept 16, 2019 8:49:59 GMT -5
I don't really know, I take it as meaning overpushed, but I could be totally wrong EDIT - and I was wrong It is a video game slang,mainly fighting game. Whena character is too much stronger,on a tier above the rest they are "Overpowered" and needs to be adjusted so the other character can have the same chance of winning.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 16, 2019 11:26:39 GMT -5
I think this is the biggest reason why the goofy finish last night pissed me off. A clean Sasha victory could have done wonders for both women. Yea, it is not like you can't continue the feud, as it didn't need a f*** finish. Becky caused the DQ and got her heat back at the end of the match, it knocked Sasha down a bit when she should be standing tall against Becky
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 16, 2019 11:27:32 GMT -5
My bad I thought everyone knew what OP was from the Braun thread from last year
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 16, 2019 11:46:49 GMT -5
Sasha should have won this, by hook or by crook. Preferably by crook.
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