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Post by BorneAgain on Oct 12, 2019 19:01:22 GMT -5
This is more of a distant future element, but they could kill two rocks with one stone via bringing back live event promos. Give guys a chance to cut a 30-60 second promo that helps define their characters and re informs the fans of an upcoming AEW event that might be in their area (maybe even doing so with Dynamite tapings before they get their feet wet with house shows). If they are going for long term booking, than this is the kind of thing that can take advantage of it by having current feuds/programs as something that be efficiently hyped for hypothetical live audiences in the future.
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Oct 12, 2019 19:07:20 GMT -5
No overtly shooty comments. Looking at you, Jericho. I don't mind the subtle jabs on commentary (like the comments about referee discretion) but I don't want Russo-style fourth wall breaking, even if I happen to agree with what's being said.
Also, don't do crazy risky spots like on the past PPVs, though hopefully that's a lesson they've already learned.
Beyond that, I don't really have major complaints. They already seem to be adjusting some stuff on the fly (turning off the crowd lighting etc.)
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Oct 12, 2019 19:40:17 GMT -5
Better entrances.
Entrances are a huge, huge part of wrestling. AEW's entrances suck across the board. The ideas aren't allllllll bad, but execution is terrible. Like the Best Friends... that idea is fine, but it just looks bush-league and awful.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 12, 2019 19:44:15 GMT -5
I'd add a win/loss streak next to their nameplate. That way they have wins and losses still matter but have more flexibility in storytelling. Giving someone 6-7 a title shot might look weird but it's easier when it says 6-7 (W4).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 20:07:00 GMT -5
Theme music, its not bad and maybe we just need to get more familiar with it but too many similar themes, if Jim Johnston is interested then I don't see why he hasn't been picked up already.
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Post by fw91 on Oct 12, 2019 20:09:32 GMT -5
From what little of it I've seen... JR doesn't have it anymore
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Oct 12, 2019 21:37:54 GMT -5
They need clear faces and heels. I *think* Moxley is a bad guy, but he just faced another bad guy in Spears, is feuding with Omega, who started out as one of the core heroes but is acting as a tweener, and had a staredown with PAC, who is a clear bad guy (more on that later), and at Fyter Fest, faced Janela who I have no idea which side he is on. Or Jimmy Havoc, for that matter.
The tag match for the next Dynamite is bringing up one of the biggest pet peeves I have with WWE, and that is putting guys against each other on TV when they are set to face each other in a marquee PPV match (in this case, Omega and Moxley). It could lead to more of a Moxley/PAC blow-up, but it could also cheapen what should be one of the selling points of Full Gear.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 22:02:11 GMT -5
They assume way too much knowledge of their audience.I said it in another thread their doing over a million viewers on TNT but only do between 150K to 300K views on Being The Elite that tells you there’s a ton of new viewers to the product that don’t have any idea what’s going on with these people.
Dedicate 3 to 5 minutes a show to familiarize the audience to the talent.We’re going into week 3 and we’ve seen nothing on Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus.Allie should be on TV she’s a pretty girl who was popular in impact and got a ton of TV time.Familiar faces can only help.
Don’t try to get everyone over all at the same time cause with such a small roster that’s a recipe for disaster and leads to 50/50 booking.If your gonna push Darby who’s new to the audience don’t have him be dominated by Havoc just have him beat him.When its Havoc’s turn for a push have him win.Moxley should have steamrolled Janela & Spears.
More Promo’s.The fact that Moxley still hasn’t cut a promo is baffling you only have a few guys that can talk...let them talk.You don’t want AEW to become Jericho and The Land of The Tiny Mute Men.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 12, 2019 22:32:22 GMT -5
Episodes are posted on TNT’s website. They don’t even require a sign in. As they air? I want to watch them live, not after the fact. Looks like the 2nd episode is only a 5 minute preview. LAME. It's no different than watching Raw, I guess you don't do that either. If you want it live, you going to have to pay a streaming service. Sling TV is 25 a month after the first month. First month is 15.00. That about as cheap your going to get for TNT live and legal. They need clear faces and heels. I *think* Moxley is a bad guy, but he just faced another bad guy in Spears, is feuding with Omega, who started out as one of the core heroes but is acting as a tweener, and had a staredown with PAC, who is a clear bad guy (more on that later), and at Fyter Fest, faced Janela who I have no idea which side he is on. Or Jimmy Havoc, for that matter. The tag match for the next Dynamite is bringing up one of the biggest pet peeves I have with WWE, and that is putting guys against each other on TV when they are set to face each other in a marquee PPV match (in this case, Omega and Moxley). It could lead to more of a Moxley/PAC blow-up, but it could also cheapen what should be one of the selling points of Full Gear. Moxley seems more a booked tweener but crowd cheer the crap out out him. PAC is a heel and Omega face.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Oct 12, 2019 23:02:17 GMT -5
Squash matches. NWA Power made squash matches an absolute art this week. NXT can also be really good at it. If they are dead set on these wins and losses records, start padding that shit. I wanna see some 7-1 dude take on an 8-0 dude, not 3-2 vs 3-4 cause everyone is being booked to be on the same level. AEW needs local jobbers. Truly a fly in the ointment. I feel like the guys running the show don’t want to be seen as “cheating” by devoting airtime to full time roster members beating local scrubs, but it really might be the only way to make the system work in the long term. Can only Mikey Whipwreck so many people.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 12, 2019 23:04:57 GMT -5
I think Cody or Khan have floated the idea of bringing in jobbers before, so I think that'll happen eventually, but obviously, right now, there's only 2 hours, 3 counting AEW Dark, of content a week they have to work with. Give it some time.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 12, 2019 23:08:01 GMT -5
They assume way too much knowledge of their audience.I said it in another thread their doing over a million viewers on TNT but only do between 150K to 300K views on Being The Elite that tells you there’s a ton of new viewers to the product that don’t have any idea what’s going on with these people. Dedicate 3 to 5 minutes a show to familiarize the audience to the talent.We’re going into week 3 and we’ve seen nothing on Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus.Allie should be on TV she’s a pretty girl who was popular in impact and got a ton of TV time.Familiar faces can only help. This is actually a good point that I was just about to point out For all intents and purposes we really haven't gotten too much explanation of who people are. Yes, it is good to treat your audience like they aren't idiots but you have a bunch of people just tuning in who don't know who certain people are What NXT has done really well that AEW should pick up on is the 20-30 bumpers they do before or after commercials of wrestlers, showing some highlights and them talking with their name and logo at the end of the bumper
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 12, 2019 23:17:14 GMT -5
I love tag team wrestling, but there has been A LOT of tag team matches in the last 2 weeks, and 3 more tag matches next week announced. I get that they're in the midst of a tag tourney for the titles, but the thrown together team matches are starting to wear a little thin. It's something that every company struggles with when they're trying to get people on TV, but it seems like there's been an overreliance on AEW's part on them to tell the stories they need to tell. Honestly, the tag match next week could be turned to Page Vs Mox, or Mox Vs PAC, and I'd be fine with that. I think once we get out of the Tag Tourney, we'll see more singles matches taking place every week.
Also, we need Sonny Kiss on the main show, it's really sucked that he hasn't been featured much in the company yet, save for his appearing on AEW Dark this week.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Oct 12, 2019 23:31:19 GMT -5
More. Orange. Cassidy.
But seriously, I would just say have Excalibur and Tony Schiavone as commentary. I love JR, but I'd say keep him for Pay-Per-Views.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 0:55:17 GMT -5
They assume way too much knowledge of their audience.I said it in another thread their doing over a million viewers on TNT but only do between 150K to 300K views on Being The Elite that tells you there’s a ton of new viewers to the product that don’t have any idea what’s going on with these people. Dedicate 3 to 5 minutes a show to familiarize the audience to the talent.We’re going into week 3 and we’ve seen nothing on Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus.Allie should be on TV she’s a pretty girl who was popular in impact and got a ton of TV time.Familiar faces can only help. This is actually a good point that I was just about to point out For all intents and purposes we really haven't gotten too much explanation of who people are. Yes, it is good to treat your audience like they aren't idiots but you have a bunch of people just tuning in who don't know who certain people are What NXT has done really well that AEW should pick up on is the 20-30 bumpers they do before or after commercials of wrestlers, showing some highlights and them talking with their name and logo at the end of the bumper Agreed.NXT has done a better job of video’s with people who aren’t even wrestling on that particular show.I have a friend who had never seen a single second of NXT till they moved to USA and she was totally lost the 1st week but the videos with Tegan,Dakota and Candice have given her something to care about which is critical because she doesn’t care about workrate or even knows what that is. I thought the way AEW opened their 1st show with the Cody/Sammy package was excellent but since that point they’ve just assumed everyone knows everything.It really struck me when they teased MJF turning on Cody that so many viewers would see that as just something completely random happening because they’ve done absolutely nothing to establish any relationship between the 2.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 13, 2019 0:57:49 GMT -5
Fair enough point that they could get some more of this stuff on TV, but I think people are so used to having to aggressively tune out WWE's shit commentary that they've forgotten, right, the commentators tell us who people are and why we should care.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 1:01:51 GMT -5
Fair enough point that they could get some more of this stuff on TV, but I think people are so used to having to aggressively tune out WWE's shit commentary that they've forgotten, right, the commentators tell us who people are and why we should care. Valid point but in AEW it comes off very obviously that JR and Tony had no clue who most of these people are so they need to find other ways to get that info out there.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Oct 13, 2019 1:34:36 GMT -5
TV title; Have it defended weekly. Gives your mid-card something to value you can even make it important by having a caveat that if it's defended (X number of times) in a row successfully that person gets a title shot.
Makes the belt mean something, Gives you an automatic match each week.
Speaking of easy weekly filler matches; Have wins/losses tracked. Maybe something like the top 4 with the best record at the end of the year compete in a playoff-like tournament. Winner gets a shot at the champion at your big event. It gives fans a reason to care about each match and good way to pad your show. To make it a little less of a wait, the top winners of the month could get a shot at the affor mentioned TV title.
Themes with distinct beginnings. It's hard to pop for someone if 4 guys have the same generic metal opening riffs.
Promos should remain free like they are but maybe have some bullet points because it comes off as rambling.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Oct 13, 2019 2:16:20 GMT -5
They need clear faces and heels. I *think* Moxley is a bad guy, but he just faced another bad guy in Spears, is feuding with Omega, who started out as one of the core heroes but is acting as a tweener, and had a staredown with PAC, who is a clear bad guy (more on that later), and at Fyter Fest, faced Janela who I have no idea which side he is on. Or Jimmy Havoc, for that matter. The tag match for the next Dynamite is bringing up one of the biggest pet peeves I have with WWE, and that is putting guys against each other on TV when they are set to face each other in a marquee PPV match (in this case, Omega and Moxley). It could lead to more of a Moxley/PAC blow-up, but it could also cheapen what should be one of the selling points of Full Gear. To add to the “expect too much knowledge on the viewers part”, MJF cut a heel promo last week and this week came in for the hero’s save of Cody. Not to mention, apparently Cody was a heel the whole time on the Indies save for that one match with Magnus where he won the NWA title because it was All in
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Oct 13, 2019 2:54:09 GMT -5
The Jimmy Havoc promo before his match the Darby Allin needed better lighting and a better backdrop, was he living in an abandoned factory or something?
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