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Post by Tenshigure on Nov 12, 2019 13:40:23 GMT -5
Doesn't Cornette denigrate a lot of joshi workers in the US as fulfilling an Asian Schoolgirl fetish? I think he said similar remarks about Kairi Sane and Io Shirai. That seems to be a recurring theme with these older generation wrestling promoters, it's aggravating to say the least.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 12, 2019 15:33:50 GMT -5
They should do a video together where Cornette tells him how to wrestle properly and Omega sits there taking notes.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 12, 2019 15:50:11 GMT -5
Just a random thought... who is Cornette's favorite wrestler that is still active? I feel like the list of people he hates is nearly all encompassing.I don't think I've ever heard "Jim Cornette says he's likes *this wrestler*"
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Nov 12, 2019 16:00:39 GMT -5
Just a random thought... who is Cornette's favorite wrestler that is still active? I feel like the list of people he hates is nearly all encompassing.I don't think I've ever heard "Jim Cornette says he's likes *this wrestler*" Cody and Duntin Rhodes are pretty close to the top of his list... so is Jericho... and the Revival... Jay Lethal... there's a lot he does like but people just report what he doesn't.
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Post by horseface on Nov 12, 2019 16:12:51 GMT -5
The thing is, Cornette genuinely believes that there was ever a time(at least in his wrestling lifetime) where the fans didn't know wrestling was fake. The truth is though, most people long knew it was all fixed before it was officially admitted. Only a tiny tiny percentage of people even in his heyday actually believed it was legitimate competition.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 12, 2019 16:14:59 GMT -5
Just a random thought... who is Cornette's favorite wrestler that is still active? I feel like the list of people he hates is nearly all encompassing.I don't think I've ever heard "Jim Cornette says he's likes *this wrestler*" MJF
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Post by XIII on Nov 12, 2019 16:21:14 GMT -5
Kenny Omega keeps going to everywhere that Jim Cornette is for the sole purpose of buying all of the Popeyes chicken sandwiches before Cornette can get one
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 12, 2019 16:24:54 GMT -5
The thing is, Cornette genuinely believes that there was ever a time(at least in his wrestling lifetime) where the fans didn't know wrestling was fake. The truth is though, most people long knew it was all fixed before it was officially admitted. Only a tiny tiny percentage of people even in his heyday actually believed it was legitimate competition. Wrestling being fixed has been pretty public knowledge since at least the 30s.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Nov 12, 2019 16:27:23 GMT -5
They should do a video together where Cornette tells him how to wrestle properly and Omega sits there taking notes. And then Omega throws the notebook at Cornette.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 17:26:41 GMT -5
Jim would cut a promo on oxygen if it didn't respect "the bidness."
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 12, 2019 17:30:43 GMT -5
The thing is, Cornette genuinely believes that there was ever a time(at least in his wrestling lifetime) where the fans didn't know wrestling was fake. The truth is though, most people long knew it was all fixed before it was officially admitted. Only a tiny tiny percentage of people even in his heyday actually believed it was legitimate competition. Vince came out in public and said it was fake back in the mid 80s as part of a push to end any sort of regulation, people kind of always knew but he removed all doubt in a way even Corny couldn't pretend didn't happen. Corny's issue seems to be that back in his day, people in wrestling didn't go around screaming this is fake during the show, they didn't do things intentionally designed to break the fourth wall or screw up the flow of a match/show to try and be meta or whatever, and didn't insult the audience's intelligence with spots like dick suplexes. I'm not a big Corny fan, but a lot of his issues complaints about modern wrestling are fairly reasonable, but he makes them in an unreasonable way and buries them under a whole bunch of slights and nitpicks because it's what his audience want. They want him to turn red, pull faces or come out with some line they can stick on a t-shirt.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 12, 2019 17:32:56 GMT -5
Vince was not the first person to come out saying it was fake.
Not by a long shot.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Nov 12, 2019 17:39:11 GMT -5
Just a random thought... who is Cornette's favorite wrestler that is still active? I feel like the list of people he hates is nearly all encompassing.I don't think I've ever heard "Jim Cornette says he's likes *this wrestler*" MJF The Kentucky Fried Joke actually likes a wrestler not from the 1980s??
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 12, 2019 17:41:17 GMT -5
Person sleeps with someone who is in prominent position and gets pushed. If you're talking about HHH nobody has an issue, if you're talking about Riho suddenly it's an issue. Maybe I've been dreaming these last 15+ years and this hasn't been one of the often agreed upon topics of wrestling fans. Maybe we should all be ashamed that we've besmirched Paul Levesque's reputation and accept his sexual prowess played little part in his rise to the top. I've a bigger problem with people having an issue with it just because one's a woman and one isn't. I don't see how that's a particularly strong ground to start throwing around misogynist allegations. Especially when it's been an allegation openly and proudly levelled against a man. Treating two people the same isn't misogyny. Treating someone different because they're a woman - well, that probably qualifies. There is a weird grooming pedo aspect with riho and kenny though if rumors are true it is kenny who in that situation is grimey Kenny worked a few matches with Riho years ago in DDT and then had little contact with her for years, but is a joshi fan and so he kept up with her career while he went off to do other stuff, so she was one of the first names he had in mind to bring into the company he was part of. I don't see how there's really rumours to be true, he didn't spend years teaming with her or have any hand in her training, the projection of any way he'd groomed her is a horrible conjecture and treating it like a rumour and not as an awful accusation is real bad. Even if they were to be in a relationship, the gulf between that and him actively grooming her as a child is way the f*** out there.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 12, 2019 17:44:28 GMT -5
Just a random thought... who is Cornette's favorite wrestler that is still active? I feel like the list of people he hates is nearly all encompassing.I don't think I've ever heard "Jim Cornette says he's likes *this wrestler*" He's still really high on Rollins; it's the same style he criticizes the Bucks and Omega for, but Rollins was on top in RoH when they were paying Cornette, so he praised him to high heaven at the time as the future of the business. Now that he's a top name in WWE, Cornette can harp on Rollins as proof that he's still with it and it's the children who are wrong about AEW.
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Post by ogreknee on Nov 12, 2019 17:45:14 GMT -5
There is a weird grooming pedo aspect with riho and kenny though if rumors are true it is kenny who in that situation is grimey Kenny worked a few matches with Riho years ago in DDT and then had little contact with her for years, but is a joshi fan and so he kept up with her career while he went off to do other stuff, so she was one of the first names he had in mind to bring into the company he was part of. I don't see how there's really rumours to be true, he didn't spend years teaming with her or have any hand in her training, the projection of any way he'd groomed her is a horrible conjecture and treating it like a rumour and not as an awful accusation is real bad. Even if they were to be in a relationship, the gulf between that and him actively grooming her as a child is way the f*** out there. It is the implication there. I am not saying it. It is implied To me it is kenny mentoring her and being a friend. But men and women cannot just be platonic friends nowadays. The fact he has known her since she was a kid and would now be banging her is really gross. So people assuming they are banging puts that whole grooming aspect there. Which is wrong Just to be clear i am not accusing kenny of anything. Just saying any situation in which he bangs riho just comes off as wrong Both in assuming they are banging so she gets pushed And that they are banging at all
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 12, 2019 18:05:24 GMT -5
Vince was not the first person to come out saying it was fake. Not by a long shot. Others have said it was fake, but none of them came close to being as loud a voice and as important a figure as Vince was at that point in time. He was the owner of the biggest promotion in the world, he'd spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on lobbyists (Including Rick Santorum of all people) and he outright said it was fake in front of an audience of politicians and the press to cap off a concerted effort attempt to kill off the regulation and taxes associated with the sport. A public dismantling of keyfabe from a figure like Vince was impossible to dismiss or ignore, even for people who want it to be real.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 12, 2019 18:43:17 GMT -5
He got peanut butter in his chocolate
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 12, 2019 19:43:16 GMT -5
The Kentucky Fried Joke actually likes a wrestler not from the 1980s?? He also likes the revival. He has also said that MJF is a better performer than he ever was.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 14:38:54 GMT -5
I have a feeling that if Cornette came down with a fatal disease, and Kenny Omega ran in and cured him with a syringe of the antidote which he himself had come up with, Jim would hate Omega even more because being a miracle worker doctor was NOT Omega's stated wrestling gimmick...
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